Pap Punya

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation
Catalog link: https://jainqq.org/explore/009596/1

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dAdA bhagavAna kathita pApa-puNya manuSyagati devagati mokSa hetu, puNyAnubaMdhI puNya samakita prApti ke lie puNyAnubaMdhI puNya caahie| krodhamAna-mAyA-lobha kama ho jAne caahie| taba vaha samakita kI ora jaaegaa| hamArI kevala mokSa meM hI jAne kI icchA honI cAhie aura usa icchA ke lie jo-jo kiyA jAtA hai, vaha kriyA puNya bA~dhatI hai| kyoMki hetu mokSa kA hai na, islie| phira khuda ke pAsa jo kucha ho use luTA de! parAyoM ke lie luTAde, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| kisI bhI kriyA meM badale kI icchA nahIM rakhe, sAmanevAle ko sukha dete samaya kisI bhI prakAra se badale kI icchA nahIM rakhe, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| -dAdAzrI ISBN 978-81-89933-67-8 44 97881891933678 narkagati tiryaMcagati

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dAdA bhagavAna kathita prakAzaka : ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana 'dAdA darzana', 5, mamatApArka sosAiTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda - 380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 All Rights reserved - Shri Deepakbhai Desai Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. pApa-puNya prathama saMskaraNa : 3000 pratiyA~, agasta 2010 bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva! dravya mUlya : 20 rupaye lesara kampoz2a : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda mUla gujarAtI saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna anuvAda : mahAtmAgaNa mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, naI riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079) 27542964, 30004823

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sAMsArika vidhna nivAraka trimaMtra namo arihaMtANaM namo siddhANaM namo AyariyANaM namo uvajjhAyANaM namo loe savvasAhUNaM eso paMca namukkAro, savva pAvappaNAsaNo maMgalANaM ca savvesiM, paDhamaM havai mNglm||1|| OM namo bhagavate vAsudevAya // 2 // OM namaH zivAya // 3 // dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba cha: baje kA samaya. bhIDa se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve sTezana, pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se prakaTa hue| aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta aashcry| eka ghaMTe meM unheM vizvadarzana huaa| 'maiM kauna? bhagavAna kauna? jagat kauna calAtA hai? karma kyA? mukti kyA?' ityAdi jagat ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sammukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, gujarAta ke carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karanevAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaMToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se| use akrama mArga khaa| akrama, arthAt binA krama ke, aura krama arthAt sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra Upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAt liphTa mArga, zaoNrTa kaTa! ve svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha jo Apako dikhate hai ve dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e.ema.paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiM, sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' hamAre bhItara saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN|" / 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM', isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisIke pAsa se paisA nahIM liyA balki apanI kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the|

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AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa liMka 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| pIche anugAmI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na?" dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu janoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the| ApazrI ne apane jIvanakAla meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna (nIrUmA~) ko AtmajJAna prApta karavAne kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thiiN| dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya pazcAt nIrUmA~ vaise hI mumukSujanoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti, nimitta bhAva se karavA rahI thii| pUjya dIpakabhAI desAI ko dAdAzrI ne satsaMga karane kI siddhi pradAna kI thii| nIrUmA~ kI upasthiti meM hI unake AzIrvAda se pUjya dIpakabhAI deza-videzo meM kaI jagahoM para jAkara mumukSuoM ko AtmajJAna karavA rahe the, jo nIrUmA~ ke dehavilaya pazcAt Aja bhI jArI hai| isa AtmajJAnaprApti ke bAda haz2AroM mumukSu saMsAra meM rahate hue, jimmedAriyA~ nibhAte hue bhI mukta rahakara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiN| graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzana meM atyaMta upayogI siddha hogI, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna prApta karanA z2arUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti kA mArga Aja bhI khulA hai| jaise prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai, usI prakAra pratyakSa AtmajJAnI se AtmajJAna prApta kara kehI svayaM kA AtmA jAgRta ho sakatA hai| 4 nivedana parama pUjya dAdA bhagavAna' ke praznottarI satsaMga meM pUche gaye prazna ke uttara meM unake zrImukha se adhyAtma tathA vyavahAra jJAna saMbaMdhI jo vANI nikalI, usako rikaoNrDa karake, saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake pustakoM ke rUpa meM prakAzita kiyA jAtA haiN| usI sAkSAta sarasvatI kA adbhuta saMkalana isa pustaka meM huA hai, jo hama sabake lie varadAnarUpa sAbita hogii| prastuta anuvAda kI vAkya racanA hindI vyAkaraNa ke mApadaNDa para zAyada pUrI na utare, parantu pUjya dAdAzrI kI gujarAtI vANI kA zabdaza: hindI anuvAda karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai, tAki vAcaka ko aisA anubhava ho ki dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai| phira bhI dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, ve isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisA hamArA anurodha hai / anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apase kSamAprArthI haiN| pAThakoM se.... // // // // isa pustaka meM mudrita pAThyasAmagrI mUlata: gujarAtI 'pApa-puNya' kA hindI rupAMtara hai| isa pustaka meM 'AtmA' zabda kA prayoga saMskRta aura gujarAtI bhASA kI taraha pulliMga meM kiyA gayA hai| jahA~-jahA~ para 'caMdUlAla' nAma kA prayoga kiyA gayA hai, vahA~-vahA~ pAThaka svayaM kA nAma samajhakara paThana kreN| pustaka meM agara koI bAta Apa samajha na pAe~ to pratyakSa satsaMga meM padhArakara samAdhAna prApta kreN| dAdAzrI ke zrImukha se nikale kucha gujarAtI zabda jyoM ke tyoM 'iTAliksa' meM rakhe gaye haiM, kyoMki una zabdoM ke lie hindI meM aisA koI zabda nahIM hai, jo usakA pUrNa artha de ske| hAlA~ki una zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda ( ) meM artha ke rUpa meM diye gaye haiN| aise sabhI zabda aura zabdArtha pustaka ke aMta meM bhI die gae haiN| 5

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saMpAdakIya hamAre bhArata meM to puNya-pApa kI samajha baccA Dagamaga Daga bharane lage tabhI se hI dI jAtI hai| choTA baccA jIvajaMtu mAra rahA ho, to mAtA phaTAka se usake hAtha para mAra detI hai aura krodha karake kahatI hai, 'nahIM mArate, pApa lagatA hai!' bacapana se hI bAlaka ko sunane ko milatA hai, 'galata karegA to pApa lagegA, aisA nahIM krte|' kaI bAra manuSya ko duHkha par3atA hai, taba ro uThatA hai, kahegA mere kauna-se bhava ke pApoM kI sajA bhugata rahA huuN| acchA ho jAe to kaheMge 'puNyazAlI hai'| isa prakAra se pApa-puNya zabda kA apane vyavahAra meM aksara prayoga hotA rahatA hai| bhArata meM to kyA, vizva ke tamAma loga puNya-pApa ko svIkAra karate haiM aura unameM se kisa prakAra chUTA jAe, usake upAya bhI batAe gae haiN| para puNya-pApa kI yathArtha paribhASA kyA hai? yathArtha samajha kyA hai? pUrvabhava-isa bhava aura agale bhava ke sAtha pApa-puNya kA kyA saMbaMdha hai? jIvana vyavahAra meM pApa-puNya ke phala kisa prakAra bhugatane par3ate haiM? puNya aura pApa ke prakAra kaise hote haiM? vahA~ se lekara TheTha mokSa mArga meM pApapuNya kI kyA upayogitA hai? mokSa prApti ke lie pApa-puNya donoM z2arUrI haiM, yA donoM se mukta honA par3egA? puNya-pApa kI itanI sArI bAteM sunane ko milatI haiM, ki inameM saca kyA hai? vaha samAdhAna kahA~ se milegA? pApa-puNya kI yathArtha samajha ke abhAva meM kaI ulajhaneM khar3I ho jAtI haiN| puNya aura pApa kI paribhASA kahIM bhI kliyarakaTa aura zaoNrTakaTa (spaSTa aura saMkSepa meM) meM dekhane ko nahIM miltii| isalie puNya-pApa ke lie taraha-taraha kI paribhASAe~ sAmAnya manuSya ko ulajhAtI haiM, aura aMta meM puNya bAMdhanA aura pApa karane se rukanA to hotA hI nhiiN| parama pUjya dAdAzrI ne vaha paribhASA bahata hI sarala. sIdhI aura saMdara DhaMga se de dI hai ki 'dUsaroM ko sukha dene se puNya ba~dhatA hai aura dUsaroM ko duHkha dene se pApa ba~dhatA hai' aba itanI hI jAgRti sAre dina rakheM to usameM sArA hI dharma A gayA aura adharma chUTa gayA! aura bhUlakara bhI kisIko du:kha de diyA jAe to usakA turaMta hI pratikramaNa kara lo| pratikramaNa matalaba jise vANI se, vartana se yA mana se bhI duHkha pahu~cA ho, to turanta hI usake bhItara birAjamAna AtmA, zuddhAtmA se mAfI mA~ga leM, hadayapUrvaka pachatAvA honA cAhie aura phira se aisA nahIM karU~gA, aisA dRr3ha nizcaya ho jAnA caahie| itanA hI, bs| aura vaha bhI mana meM, para dila se kara lo, to bhI usakA ekjekTa (yathArtha) phala milatA hai| parama pUjya dAdAzrI kahate haiM, 'jIvana puNya aura pApa ke udaya ke anusAra calatA hai, dUsarA koI calAnevAlA nahIM hai| phira kahA~ kisIko doSa yA zAbAzI denA rahA? isalie pApa kA udaya ho, taba adhika prayatna kie binA zAMta baiThA raha aura AtmA kA kr| puNya yadi phala dene ke lie sammukha huA ho taba phira saiMkar3oM prayatna kisalie? aura puNya jaba phala dene ke lie sammukha nahIM huA ho taba phira saiMkar3oM prayatna kisa lie? isalie tU dharma kr| puNya-pApa saMbaMdhI sAmAnya praznoM se lekara sUkSmAtisUkSma praznoM ke bhI utane hI sarala, saMkSipta aura pura-asara samAdhAnakArI uttara yahA~ milate haiM, parama pUjya dAdAzrI kI apanI dezI zailI meM! mokSa prApti ke lie kyA puNya kI z2arUrata hai? yadi z2arUrata ho to kauna-sA aura kaisA puNya cAhie? puNya to cAhie hI parantu puNyAnubaMdhI puNya caahie| itanA hI nahIM parantu mokSa ke Azaya ke sAtha hI puNya baMdhA honA cAhie, jisase ki usa puNya ke phala svarUpa mokSa prApti ke sabhI sAdhana aura aMtima sAdhana AtmajJAnI kA mile! uparAMta puNyAnubaMdhI puNya mokSa ke hetu ke lie baMdhA huA ho to usake sAtha :- 1) krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kama hue hone cAhie, kaSAya maMda ho jAne cAhie, 2) khuda ke pAsa ho vaha dUsaroM ke lie luTA de aura 3) pratyeka kriyA meM badale kI icchA nahIM rakhe to hI vaha puNya mokSa ke lie kAma AegA, nahIM to dUsare puNya to bhautika sukha dekara barpha kI taraha pighala jAe~ge! aisI pApa-puNya kI yathArtha samajha to prakaTa jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa se hI satsaMga praznottarI dvArA prApta huI hai, jisakI prastuti isa saMkalana meM huI - DaoN. nIrubahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda

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pApa-puNya yaha puNya aura pApa kahalAtA hai| sukha cAhie to sukha do, usase kreDiTa jamA hogA aura duHkha cAhie to duHkha do, usase DebiTa jamA hogaa| unakA phala Apako cakhanA pdd'egaa| pApa-puNya pApa-puNya kI na mile kahIM bhI aisI paribhASA praznakartA : pApa aura puNya bhalA kyA cIz2a hai? dAdAzrI : pApa aura puNya kA artha kyA hai? kyA kareM to puNya hogA? puNya-pApa kA utpAdana kahA~ se hotA hai? taba kaheM, 'yaha jagat jaisA hai vaisA jAnA nahIM hai logoM ne, isalie khuda ko jaisA ThIka lage vaisA baratate haiN| arthAt kisI jIva ko mArate haiM, kisIko duHkha dete haiM, kisIko trAsa pahu~cAte haiN|' kisI bhI jIva mAtra ko koI bhI trAsa pahu~cAnA yA duHkha denA, usase pApa ba~dhatA hai| kyoMki gaoNDa ija ina evarI krIcara vedara viz2ibala aura invij'ibl| (A~kha se dikheM vaise yA nahIM dikheM vaise, pratyeka jIva mAtra meM bhagavAna haiN|) isa jagat ke loga, hara eka jIva mAtra bhagavAna svarUpa hI hai| yaha per3a hai, usameM bhI jIva hai| aba aise to loga mu~ha se bolate z2arUra haiM ki sabhI meM bhagavAna hai, para vAstava meM usakI zraddhA meM nahIM hai| isalie per3a ko kATate haiM, aise hI binA kAma ke tor3ate rahate haiM, isalie saba nukasAna karate haiN| jIva mAtra ko kucha bhI nukasAna pahu~cAnA, usase pApa ba~dhatA hai aura kisI bhI jIva ko kucha bhI sukha denA, usase puNya ba~dhatA hai| Apa bagIce meM pAnI chir3akate ho taba jIvoM ko sukha hotA hai yA duHkha? vaha sukha dete ho, usase puNya ba~dhatA hai| basa, itanA hI samajhanA hai| pUre jagat ke jo dharma haiM, unheM sAra rUpa meM yadi kahanA ho to eka hI bAta samajhA deM sabhI ko, ki yadi Apako sukha cAhie to dUsare jIvoM ko sukha do aura duHkha cAhie to du:kha do| jo anukUla ho vaha karo, acchA-burA, pApa-puNya ke AdhAra para kabhI-kabhI saMyoga acche Ate haiM kyA? praznakartA : acche bhI Ate haiN| dAdAzrI : una bure aura acche saMyogoM ko kauna bhejatA hogA? apane hI puNya aura pApa ke AdhAra para saMyoga A milate haiN| aisA hai, isa duniyA ko koI calAnevAlA nahIM hai| yadi koI calAnevAlA hotA to pApa-puNya kI z2arUrata nahIM thii| praznakartA : isa jagat ko calAnevAlA kauna hai? dAdAzrI : puNya aura pApa kA pariNAma / puNya aura pApa ke pariNAma se yaha jagat cala rahA hai| koI bhagavAna nahIM calAte haiN| koI isameM hAtha nahIM DAlatA hai| puNya prApti kI sIr3hiyA~ praznakartA : aba puNya aneka prakAra ke haiM, to kisa-kisa prakAra ke kArya kareM to puNya kahalAe~ge aura pApa kahalAe~ge? dAdAzrI : jIva mAtra ko sukha denA, usameM pharsTa prepharensa (prathama mahatva) mnussy| manuSyoM kA ho gayA taba phira dUsarA prepharensa pa~cendriya jiiv| tIsare prepharensa meM cAra indriya, tIna indriya, do indriya, eka indriya isa prakAra se unheM sukha deM, usase hI puNya hotA hai aura unheM duHkha deM, usase pApa hotA hai| praznakartA : bhautika sukha milate haiM, unhoMne kisa prakAra ke karma kie hoM to ve milate haiM?

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya to hama dharma kareMge kisa taraha? kreDiTa ho to eka ora zAMti rahegI, isalie hama dharma kara skeNge| praznakartA : kauna-se karma karane se puNya hotA hai aura kauna-se karma karane se dharma hotA hai? dAdAzrI : ye sabhI jIva, manuSya, per3a-paudhe, gAya-bhaiMsa, phira pazupakSI, jalacara ve sabhI jIva sukha khojate haiN| aura duHkha kisIko pasaMda nahIM hai| isIlie Apake pAsa jo kucha sukha hai, vaha dUsare logoM ko Apa do to Apake khAte meM kreDiTa hotA hai, puNya ba~dhatA hai aura dUsaroM ko duHkha do to pApa ba~dhatA hai| praznakartA : to dharma kise kahA jAtA hai? dAdAzrI : yadi koI du:khI hotA ho, use sukha deM, usase puNya ba~dhatA hai aura pariNAma svarUpa vaisA sukha hameM bhI milatA hai| kisIko duHkha do, to Apako du:kha milatA hai| Apako pasaMda Ae vaha denaa| do prakAra ke puNya haiN| eka puNya se bhautika sukha milate haiM aura dUsarA eka aise prakAra kA puNya hai ki jo hameM 'saccI AjAdI' prApta karavAtA hai| ve donoM mAne jAte haiM karma hI! praznakartA : pApa aura karma eka hI haiM yA alaga? dAdAzrI : puNya aura pApa donoM hI karma kahalAte haiN| parantu puNya kA karma kATatA nahIM hai aura pApa kA karma apanI dhAraNA ke anusAra hone nahIM detA aura kATatA hai| jaba taka aisI mAnyatA hai ki 'maiM caMdUlAla hU~,' taba taka karma ba~dhate hI rahate haiN| do prakAra ke karma ba~dhate haiN| puNya kare to sadabhAvanA karma bA~dhatA hai aura pApa kare to durbhAvanA karma bA~dhatA hai| jaba taka haqa kA aura aNahaqa (jo apane haqa kA nahIM ho) kA vibhAjana nahIM huA hai, taba taka logoM kA dekhe vaisA vaha bhI ulTA sIkha jAtA hai| mana meM alaga hotA hai, vANI meM kucha tRtIyam hI bolatA hai aura vartana meM to aura hI taraha kA hotA hai| isalie nire pApa hI ba~dhate haiN| isalie abhI logoM ko pApa kI hI kamAI hotI hai| puNya-pApa, vaha vyavahAra dharma praznakartA : to puNya aura dharma meM kyA aMtara hai? dAdAzrI : puNya, vaha vyavahAra dharma hai, saccA dharma nahIM hai| vyavahAra dharma arthAt khuda sukhI hone ke lie| puNya arthAt kreDiTa / isase hama sukhI ho sakeMge, kreDiTa ho to hama caina se raha sakeMge aura taba acchI taraha se dharma ho skegaa| aura pApa arthAt ddebitt| puNya nahIM ho, kreDiTa nahIM ho, dAdAzrI: dharma arthAt aatmdhrm| AtmA kA khuda kA dhrm| pApa aura puNya donoM ahaMkAra ke dharma haiN| ahaMkAra ho taba taka pApa aura puNya hote haiN| ahaMkAra jAe taba pApa aura puNya jAte haiM, to Atmadharma hotA hai| AtmA ko jAnanA par3egA, taba hI Atmadharma hogaa| puNya-pApa se pare, riyala dharma rileTiva dharma kyA kahate haiM? acchA karo aura burA mata krnaa| acchA karane se puNya ba~dhatA hai aura burA karane se pApa ba~dhatA hai| pUrI jindagI kA bahIkhAtA sirpha puNya se hI nahIM bharatA hai| kisIko gAlI dI to pA~ca rupaye udhArI aura dharma kiyA to sau rupaye jamA hote haiN| pApa-puNya kA jor3anA-ghaTAnA nahIM hotA hai| yadi aisA hotA to ye karoDapati pApa jamA hI nahIM hone dete| paise kharca karake udhArI ur3A dete| parantu yaha to asala nyAya hai| usameM to jisa samaya jisakA udaya Ae, taba vaha sahanA par3atA hai| puNya se sukha milatA hai aura pApa ke phala kA udaya Ae taba kar3avA lagatA hai| phala to donoM cakhane hI par3ate haiN| bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM ki, tujhe jo phala cakhanA pasAtA ho, usakA

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pApa-puNya bIja bonaa| sukha pusAtA ho to puNya kA aura duHkha pusAtA ho to pApa kA bIja bonA, parantu donoM rileTiva dharma hI haiM, riyala nahIM haiN| riyala dharma meM, Atmadharma meM to puNya aura pApa donoM se mukti caahie| rileTiva dharmoM se bhautika sukha milate haiM aura mokSa kI ora prayANa hotA hai, jaba ki riyala dharma se mokSa milatA hai| yahA~ 'hamAre' pAsa riyala dharma hai| usase sIdhe hI mokSa mila jAtA hai| yahIM para mokSasukha baratatA hai| yahIM para Adhi, vyAdhi, upAdhi (bAhya duHkha, bAhara se A par3anevAle du:kha) se mukti mila jAtI hai aura niraMtara samAdhi rahA karatI hai| nirAkulatA utpanna hotI hai| yahA~ to AtmA aura paramAtmA kI bAteM hotI pApa-puNya taba kaheM, usameM saMyoga sAre acche mila jAe~ to madada hI karate rahate haiN| baMgalA banavAnA ho to baMgalA banatA hai, moTara milatI hai! aura pApa kharAba saMyoga lAkara baMgale kI nIlAmI karavAtA hai| isalie apane hI karma kA phala hai| usameM bhagavAna kI koI daqhala hai nahIM! yU Ara hola enDa sola risponsibala phaoNra yora lAipha! eka lAipha nahIM, kitanI hI lAipha ke lie bhagavAna kI dakhala hai nahIM ismeN| binA kAma ke loga bhagavAna ke pIche par3e haiN| prakAra, puNya-pApa ke haiN| jagat meM AtmA aura paramANu do hI haiN| kisIko zAMti dI ho, sukha diyA ho to puNya ke paramANu ikaTThe hote haiM aura kisIko duHkha diyA ho to pApa ke paramANu ikaTThe hote haiN| phira ve hI kATate haiN| icchA ke anusAra hotA hai, vaha puNya aura icchA ke viruddha hotA hai, vaha paap| pApa do prakAra ke haiN| eka pApAnubaMdhI pApa, dUsarA puNyAnubaMdhI pApa aura puNya do prakAra ke haiM, eka pApAnubaMdhI puNya, dUsarA puNyAnubaMdhI punny| pApAnubaMdhI pApa pApAnubaMdhI pApa arthAt abhI pApa bhugatatA hai aura vApisa pApa kA nayA anubaMdha bA~dhatA hai| kisIko duHkha detA hai aura phira vApisa khuza hotA hai| paramANu phalIbhUta svayaM sukha-duHkha meM praznakartA : pApa aura puNya ke vibhAga kisane banAe? dAdAzrI : kisIne nahIM bnaae| praznakartA : yaha pApa hai, yaha puNya hai vaha saba buddhi kahatI hai, AtmA ko to pApa-puNya kucha hai hI nahIM na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, AtmA ko nahIM hai| sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho vaisI vANI hama boleM na, taba vaha vANI hI khada paramANaoM ko khIMcatI hai| una paramANuoM ko du:kha kA raMga laga jAtA hai, phira ve paramANu jaba phala dene lageM, taba duHkha hI dete haiM ve| dUsarI bIca meM kisIkI milAvaTa hai hI nhiiN| usameM jimmedArI kisakI? praznakartA : eka vyakti ko paisA aura eka vyakti ko garIbI, vaha kisa taraha se AtA hai? manuSya meM hI sabane janma liyA hai to bhI? dAdAzrI : vaha aisA hai, apanA yaha jo janma hotA hai na, vaha iphekTa hotA hai| iphekTa arthAt pichale janma meM jo kaoNz2ez2a DAle the, unakA yaha phala hai| isalie jitanA puNya hotA hai, usa puNya meM kyA kyA hotA hai? puNyAnubaMdhI pApa phira puNyAnubaMdhI pApa arthAt pUrva ke pApa ke kAraNa abhI daHkha (pApa) bhugatatA hai para nIti se aura acche saMskAroM ke kAraNa anubaMdha puNya ke bA~dhatA hai| praznakartA : yAnI du:kha upakArI hai na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, jise 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' aisA bhAna ho gayA hai usake lie du:kha upakArI hai, nahIM to du:kha meM se duHkha hI janma letA hai| duHkha

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya meM bhAva to du:kha ke hI Ate haiN| isa samaya puNyAnubaMdhI pApavAle jIva kama haiN| haiM z2arUra para unheM bhI dUSamakAla bAdhaka hai| kyoMki ye pApa bAdhaka haiN| pApa arthAt kyA ki saMsAra vyavahAra calAne meM ar3acana Ae vaha pApa kahalAtA hai| yAnI baiMka meM bar3hane kI bAta to kahA~ gaI para yaha roja kA vyavahAra calAne ke lie bhI kucha na kucha ar3acaneM AtI rahatI haiN| ye ar3acaneM AtI haiM phira bhI maMdira jAtA hai, vicAra dharma ke Ate haiM, use puNyAnubaMdhI pApa kahA hai| puNya bA~dhegA para yaha dUSamakAla aisA hai na ki isa pApa se z2arA muzkileM AtI haiM, isalie vAstava meM jaise cAhie vaise puNya nahIM bNdhte| abhI to chUta laga hI jAtA hai na! maMdira ke bAhara jUte nikAle hoM na to dUsare se pUche ki kyoM bhAI jute yahA~ nikAle haiM? taba vaha kahegA ki usa tarapha se jUte corI ho jAte haiM, isalie yahA~ nikAle haiN| taba apane mana meM bhI vicAra AtA hai ki usa tarapha se le jAte haiM, isalie darzana ke samaya bhI citta ThikAne nahIM rahatA hai! pApAnubaMdhI puNya pUrva ke puNya se Aja sukha bhogatA hai, parantu bhayaMkara pApa ke anubaMdha bA~dhatA hai| abhI saba ora pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| kisI seTha kA aisA baMgalA ho taba sukha se baMgale meM nahIM raha sktaa| seTha pUrA dina paisoM ke lie bAhara hotA hai| jaba ki seThAnI mohabAz2Ara meM suMdara sAr3I ke pIche hotI hai aura seTha kI beTI moTara lekara ghUmane nikalI hotI hai| naukara akele ghara para hote haiM aura pUrA baMgalA maTiyAmeTa ho jAtA hai| puNya ke AdhAra para sabhI kucha, baMgalA milA, moTara milI, phrija milaa| aisA puNya ho phira bhI pApa ke anubaMdha bA~dhe, vaise karatUta hote haiN| lobha-moha meM samaya jAtA hai aura bhoga bhI nahIM skte| pApAnubaMdhI puNyavAle loga to viSayoM kI lUTabAz2I hI karate haiN| isalie to baMgale haiM, moTareM haiM, vAipha hai, bacce haiM, sabakucha hai para pUrA dina hAya, hAya, hAya, hAya, paise kahA~ se lAU~? aise pUre dina nire pApa hI bA~dhatA rahatA hai| isa bhava meM puNya bhogatA hai aura agale bhava ke pApa bA~dha rahA hai| pUrA dina daur3abhAga-daur3abhAga aura kaisA? bAya (kharIdo), baoNro (udhAra lo), enDa sTIla (aura curA lo)| koI niyama nhiiN| bAya to bAya, nahIM to baoNro, nahIM to sttiil| kisI bhI prakAra se vaha hitakArI nahIM khlaataa| abhI Apake zahara ke AsapAsa puNya bahuta bar3A dikhatA hai| vaha saba pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| arthAt puNya hai, baMgale haiM, moTareM haiM, ghara para sArI suvidhAe~ haiM, vaha saba puNya ke AdhAra para hai, para vaha puNya kaisA hai? usa puNya meM se vicAra kharAba Ate haiM ki kisakA le lU~, kahA~ se lUTa lU~? kahA~ se ikaTThA karU~? kisakA bhoga lU~? arthAt aNahaqa kA bhogane kI taiyArI hotI hai, aNahaqa kI lakSmI bhI chIna lete haiM, vaha pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| manuSyatva arthAt mokSa jAne kA TAima milA hai, jaba ki yaha to ikaTThA karane meM par3A huA hai, vaha pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| usameM pApa hI ba~dhate rahate haiM, yAnI vaha bhaTakAe aisA puNya hai| kitane loga to choTe sTeTa ke ThAkura hoM na, aise aizo-ArAma se jIte haiN| karor3o rupaye ke phleTa meM rahate haiN| para jJAnI kyA dekhate hoMge? jJAnI ko karuNA AtI hai becAroM ke lie| jitanI karuNA borIvalIvAloM (muMbaI kA madhyamavargIya ilAkA) ke Upara nahIM AtI, utanI karuNA inake Upara AtI hai| aisA kisalie? praznakartA : kyoMki yaha to pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai islie| dAdAzrI : pApAnubaMdhI puNya to hai, para ohoho! ina logoM ke barpha jaise puNya haiN| jaise barpha pighalatA hai, vaise niraMtara pighalatA hI rahatA hai, vaha jJAniyoM ko dikhatA hai ki yaha pighala rahA hai ! machalI tar3apatI hai, vaise tar3apa rahe haiM! isake badale to borIvalIvAle ke pAnI jaise puNya, usameM bhalA pighalane kA kyA rahA? para yaha to pighala rahA hai| una bhoganevAloM ko patA nahIM aura usakA saba kar3hApA-ajaMpA (kur3hana, kleza, becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa), bhogane kA rahA hI kahA~? abhI isa kaliyuga meM bhoganA kaisA yaha? yaha to kurUpa dikhatA hai ulttaa| Aja se sATha varSa pahale jo rUpa thA, vaisA to rUpa hI nahIM hai abhii| zAMtivAlA muMbaI thaa|

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pApa-puNya aba vaha rUpa hI nahIM hai| sATha sAla pahale to marIna lAInsa para rahate ho na to devagati jaisA lagatA thaa| abhI to hakabakAe se dikhate haiM vahA~! pUrA dina akulAe hue aura parezAna se aise-vaise loga dikhate haiN| una dinoM to subaha pahale baiThakara pepara par3ha rahe hote, taba aisA lagatA thA jaise sAre devI-devatA pepara par3ha rahe hoN| kar3hApA nahIM, ajaMpA nhiiN| subaha pahale muMbaI samAcAra AyA ho, aura anya pepara the para unake nAma Alopa ho gae haiM sbhii| maiM bhI marIna lAInsa utaratA thaa| paranta logoM ko to zAMti bahuta thI usa samaya! itanI hAya-hAya nahIM thii| itanA lobha nahIM, itanA moha nahIM, itanI tRSNA nahIM aura zuddha ghI meM to zaMkA hI nahIM karanI par3atI thI, zaMkA hI nahIM AtI thii| abhI to zuddha lene jAe~ to bhI nahIM miltaa| pApa-puNya meM nahIM AtI, para ina duHkha kI bAtoM ke bAre meM to bahuta samajha meM A jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha to samajha meM AegA, sabhI ko samajha meM AegA, yaha dIye jaisI bAta hai! are mokSa kI bAta ko rakho dUra, para duHkha kA nivAraNa to huA Aja! saMsArI duHkha kA abhAva to huA! aura vahI mukti kI pahalI nizAnI hai| du:khamukta hue, saMsAra ke du:khoM se| ovaraDrAphaTa kA vyaya eDavAnsa meM! cAra ghara ke mAlika, parantu ghara para pA~ca rupaye nahIM hote aura bhAvanagara ke rAjA jaisA rauba hotA hai! taba usa ahaMkAra kA kyA karanA praznakartA : dAdA, para kitanI bAra vyavahAra meM aisA hotA hai ki manuSya aisA saba rakhatA hai na, use aisA saba mila AtA hai| malabAra hila jitanA puNya ho, para barpha ke pahAr3a haiM ve puNya / bar3A malabAra hila jitanA barpha ho, parantu vaha dinoMdina kyA hotA jAegA? caubIsoM ghaMTe pighalatA hI rahegA nirNtr| para use khuda ko mAlUma nahIM isa malabAra hila meM ki ina saba jagaha rahanevAle logoM ko, Topa klAsa ke logoM ko ki apanA kyA ho rahA hai? dina-rAta puNya pighalate hI rahate haiM, ye to karuNA khAne jaise hAla haiM! yahA~ se kyA khAte-khAte, kyA khAnA par3egA, vaha khabara nahIM isalie yaha saba cala rahA hai| pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| pUrA dina hI hAya paisA, hAya paisA ! kahA~ se paise ikaTThe karU~, pUre dina usake hI vicAroM meM, kahA~ se viSayoM kA sukha bhoga lU~, kucha aisA karU~, vaisA karU~, paisA! hAya, hAya, hAya, haay| aura dekho bar3e-bar3e pahAr3a puNya ke pighalane lage haiN| vaha puNya khatama ho jAnevAlA hai, vApisa, the vaise hI, donoM hAtha khAlI ke khaalii| phira cAra pairoM meM jAkara ThikAnA nahIM pdd'egaa| isalie jJAnI karuNA khAte haiM ki arerere! isa du:kha meM se chUTe to acchaa| kucha acchA saMyoga mila jAe to acchaa| dekho na inako saMyoga acchA mila gayA hai| ye seTha to kaba vahA~ se chUTeM aura kaba yahA~ para A jAe~, aisI hamArI icchA z2arUra hai para koI mela nahIM par3atA na aura jinakA mela par3atA hai ve Ate bhI haiM phir| praznakartA : dAdA, dUsare par3hanevAlo ko mokSa kI anya bAteM samajha dAdAzrI : mila AtA hai, para sAre pApa bA~dhakara milatA hai| usakA niyama hI aisA hai, terA sabakucha kharca karake, terA kAunTara veTa rakhakara tU yaha letA hai aura Aja nahIM ho to ovaraDrAphTa letA hai| vaha ovaraDrAphTa lekara phira manuSya meM se jAnavara meM hI jAtA hai| uThApaTaka karake liyA huA kAma kA nahIM hai, vaha to apane puNya kA sahaja milA huA honA caahie| isalie mila jAtA hai, para sabhI ovaraDrAphTa lete haiN| mana meM se corI ke vicAra jAte nahIM, jhUTha ke vicAra, kapaTa ke vicAra jAte nahIM haiM, prapaMca ke vicAra jAte nahIM haiN| phira kyA, nire pApa hI ba~dhate raheMge na? yaha to saba nahIM honA cAhie, mila jAe to bhI! isalie maiM to bhekha (saMnyAsa) lene ko taiyAra thA ki isa taraha yadi doSa ba~dhate hoM to saMnyAsa lenA acchaa| nirI bhayaMkara upAdhiyA~, itane tApa meM ubala gae! ajJAnatA meM to bahuta samajhadAra vyakti, eka ghaMTe hI yadi ubalatA hai, usa umasa ke kAraNa mana meM aisA hotA hai ki are, aba kucha nahIM caahie| moTI buddhivAle ko umasa

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pApa-puNya 11 samajha meM kama AtI hai, para sUkSma buddhivAle ko umasa sahana kisa taraha se ho? vaha to Azcarya hai ! puNyAnubaMdhI puNya eka puNya nahIM bhaTakAe aisA hotA hai, vaisA puNya isa kAla meM bahuta hI kama hotA hai aura vaha abhI thor3e samaya bAda khatama ho jaaegaa| vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| jisa puNya ke karma kareM, acche karma aura usameM sAMsArika hetu nahIM ho, sAMsArika koI bhI icchA nahIM ho, usa samaya jo puNya bA~dhe, ve puNyAnubaMdhI puNya / puNya bhogate haiM aura sAtha meM AtmakalyANa hetu abhyAsa, kriyA karate haiN| puNya bhogate haiM aura nayA puNya bA~dhate haiM, jisase abhyudaya se mokSaphala milatA hai| puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kise kahA jAtA hai ki jo Aja puNya hotA hai, maz2e se sukha bhoga rahe hoM, koI ar3acana nahIM par3atI ho aura phira vApisa dharma kA aura dharma kA hI pUre dina karate rahate haiM, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya hai| vaise vicAra Ae~ na, sirpha dharma ke hI, satsaMga meM hI rahane ke hI vicAra Ae~ / aura jisa puNya se sukha-suvidhAe~ bahuta nahIM hoM, para U~ce vicAra Ae~ ki kisa prakAra se kisIko duHkha nahIM ho aisA vyavahAra karU~, aisA vartana karU~, bhale hI khuda ko thor3I ar3acana par3atI ho, usameM harja nahIM hai, para kisIko upAdhi meM nahIM DAlU~, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| isalie naye anubaMdha bhI puNya ke hote haiN| praznakartA : puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kA udAharaNa dIjie / dAdAzrI : Aja kisI manuSya ke pAsa moTara baMgalA sabhI sAdhana haiM, patnI acchI hai, bacce acche haiM, naukara acche haiM, vaha jo kucha acchA milA hai, vaha kyA kahalAtA hai? loga kahate haiM, 'puNyazAlI hai|' aba yaha puNyazAlI kyA kara rahA hai, vaha hama dekheM to pUrA dina sAdhu-saMtoM kI sevA karatA hai, dUsaroM kI sevA karatA hai aura mokSa ke lie taiyArI karatA hai| aisA-vaisA karate-karate use mokSa ke sAdhana bhI mila Ate haiN| abhI puNya hai aura nayA puNya bA~dhatA hai aura kama puNya mileM, para vicAra phira vaise 12 pApa-puNya hI Ate haiM, 'mokSa meM jAnA hai' vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya / ye Apa mujhe mile vaha ApakA koI puNyAnubaMdhI puNya hogA na, usake AdhAra para mile haiN| z2arA-sA yoM hI chIMTA par3a gayA hogA, nahIM to mila hI nahIM skte| sAre haTha se kie hue kAma, haThAgrahI tapa, haThAgrahI kriyA, usase pApAnubaMdhI puNya ba~dhatA hai| jaba ki samajhakara kiyA gayA tapa, kriyAe~, khuda ke AtmakalyANa hetu sahita kie hue karmoM se puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ba~dhatA hai aura kisI kAla meM jJAnI puruSa mila jAte haiM aura mokSa meM jAtA hai| donoM dRSTiyA~ alaga-alaga praznakartA: abhI ke samaya meM sAmAnya vyakti ko aisA lagatA hai| ki kharAba rAste athavA kharAba karmoM dvArA hI bhautika sukha aura suvidhAe~ milatI haiM, isalie unakA kudaratI nyAya ke Upara se vizvAsa uThatA jAtA hai aura kharAba karma karane ke lie prerita hotA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha sArA sAmAnya vyakti ko vaisA lagatA hai| kharAba rAste aura kharAba karmoM dvArA hI bhautika sukha-suvidhAe~ milatI haiM, vaha isalie ki yaha kaliyuga hai aura dUSamakAla hai| logoM ko, bhautika sukha aura suvidhAe~ puNya ke binA nahIM milatI haiN| koI bhI suvidhA puNya ke binA nahIM miltii| eka bhI rupayA puNya ke binA hAtha meM AtA nahIM hai| pApAnubaMdhI puNya aura eka puNyAnubaMdhI puNya, ina donoM ko pahacAnane ke lie apanI samajha zakti caahie| isalie khuda bhugatatA hai kyA? puNya, phira bhI kyA bA~dha rahA hai? pApa bA~dha rahA hai| isalie hameM aisA lagatA hai ki aise pApa ke kharAba karma karatA hai aura sukha kisa taraha bhogatA hai? nahIM, bhogatA hai vaha to puNya hai, galata nahIM hai| kabhI bhI pApa kA phala sukha nahIM hotA hai| yaha to naye sire se usakI AnevAlI z2indagI khatama kara rahA hai| isalie Apako aisA lagatA hai ki yaha vyakti aisA kyoM kara rahA hai? aura phira kudarata use hailpa bhI detI hai| kyoMki kudarata use nIce

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pApa-puNya bilakula saccI nahIM hai| para isa kAla ke hisAba se ye acche vicAra hote haiM ki ise kisa prakAra se sukha ho, kisa prakAra se use jJAna prApta ho jAe, dharma ke vicAra Ae~, vaha acchI lakSmI kahalAtI hai| puNyAnabaMdhI puNya kI lakSmI kahalAtI hai| vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya matalaba puNya hai aura vApisa nayA puNya bA~dha rahA hai| vicAra saba acche haiM aura dUsare kA puNya hotA hai aura vicAra kharAba haiM, matalaba kyA bhoga lU~, kahA~ se le AU~, pUrA dina, rAta ko bhI sote-sote mazIna calAtA hI rahatA hai, pUrI raat| pApa-puNya le jAnIvAlI hai, adhogati meM, isalie use hailpa karatI hai| aura nayA cora ho na aura Aja jeba meM hAtha DAlA ho, to use pakar3avA detI hai ki bhAI nA, isameM par3a jAegA to nIce calA jaaegaa| naye cora ko pakar3avA detI hai, kisalie? urdhvagati meM le jAnA hai aura vaha pakkA cora hai, use jAne detI hai| nicalI gati meM jAo, bahuta mAra khAo, nayA cora bana rahA ho to pakar3A jAtA hai yA nahIM pakar3A jAtA? praznakartA : pakar3A jAtA hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, aura pakke cora pakar3e nahIM jAte phir| sarakAra aisA karatI hai, vaisA karatI hai, para vaha kisImeM bhI pakar3A nahIM jaataa| vaha kisIke jAla meM hI nahIM AtA hai| sabhI ko beca khAe aise haiM ! kitane kahate haiM na, inkama TaiksavAloM ko jeba meM DAlakara ghUmatA huuN| apanI jokhimadArI para bolatA hai na! ye sArI kriyAe~ vaha apanI jimmedArI para karatA hai na? kyA hamArI jimmedArI para hai? pApAnubaMdhI puNya kI lakSmI pApAnubaMdhI puNya kI lakSmI matalaba kyA? vaha lakSmI Ae taba phira vaha kahA~ se le lU~, kisakA le AU~, aNahaqa kA bhoga lU~, aNahaqa kA chIna lU~, vaise sAre pAzavatA ke vicAra Ate haiN| kisIko madada karane kA vicAra to nAma mAtra ko bhI nahIM aataa| aura usameM bhI dAna kareM na to bhI nAma kamAne ke lie, kisa taraha maiM nAma kamA lU~? bAqI, kisIke dila ko ThaMDaka nahIM phuNcaataa| yahA~ dila ko ThaMDaka pahu~catI hai, jJAnI puruSa kI hAz2irI meN| pUrI rAta dila ko ThaMDaka lagatI rahatI hai aura dila meM ThaMDaka ho, vaha to pA~ca-pA~ca lAkha rupaye dene ke barAbara hai, eka eka vyakti ko| phira bhI dila TharegA nahIM hamezA, rupaye dene se ulTI upAdhi hotI hai| isalie yaha pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai, unase yahA~ AyA hI nahIM jaaegaa| isalie apane yahA~ aise lakSmIpati A nahIM paate| yahA~ to puNyAnubaMdhI puNya, saccI lakSmI ho, aise hI ikaTThe hote haiN| saccI matalaba dUsarA kucha nahIM, isa kAla ke hisAba se bilakula saccI to hotI nhiiN| hamAre ghara para bhI aura phira una logoM ke vahA~ darzana-padharAvanI karane ke lie mujhe bulAte haiM, vahA~ para muMbaI meN| kyoMki loga jAnate haiM isalie darzana ke lie ghara para le jAte haiN| vahA~ para jAte haiM, taba vaise to karor3oM rupayoM kA mAlika hotA hai, para jaise murde ko hI baiThAkara rakhA ho na, vaisA dikhe hama logoM ko| vaha jaya-jaya karatA hai na! maiM samajha jAtA hai ki ye becAre murde haiN| phira vahA~ para dekhatA hU~ ki kauna-kauna acche haiM? vahA~ unake naukara milate haiM na, are! zarIra majabUta, lAla, lAla.... phira ve rasoIye milate haiM na, ve to tuMbe jaise, hAphUja ke Ama hI dekha lo na! taba maiM samajha jAtA hU~ ki ye seThaloga adhogati meM jAnevAle haiM, usake Aja ye cinha dikha rahe battIsa bhojanavAlI thAlI ho, para vaha to khA nahIM sktaa| hama saba sAtha meM khAnA khAe~, parantu seTha ko hama kaheM, kyoM Apa nahIM khA rahe haiM? taba kahegA, mujhe DAyAbiTIz2a hai aura blaDaprezara hai| aba seTha ko DaoNkTara ne kahA hotA hai ki 'dekho, blaDaprezara hai Apako, DAyabiTIz2a hai, kucha khAnA karanA nahIM hai| bAjare kI roTI aura z2arA dahI khAnA haM.., dUsarA kucha khAnA-karanA nhiiN| are bhAI, hamAre yahA~ hama baila ko kheta meM le jAte haiM, vaha baila khAtA kyoM nahIM hai? kheta meM hai phira bhI? taba kahe, nahIM, chIMkA bA~dhA huA hai| yahA~ mu~ha para bA~dhate haiM na kucha? kyA kahate haiM use? praznakartA : jaalii|

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : hamAre vahA~ 'zIkI' kahate haiM use| vaha bA~dhI huI hotI hai na, becAre ko khAnA ho to bhI nahIM khA sktaa| DaoNkTara ne kahA hotA hai ki mara jAoge isalie... vaisA ina logoM ko chIkA bA~dhA huA hotA karanI hai| caina se bhogatA hai|' maiMne kahA, 'kucha kahane jaisA hI nahIM hai| vaha usake khuda ke hisse kA puNya bhoga rahA hai, usameM hama kisalie dakhala kareM?' taba vaha mujhe kahatA hai ki, 'unheM sayAne nahIM banAnA kyA?' maiMne kahA, jagat meM jo bhogatA hai, vaha sayAnA kahalAtA hai| bAhara DAla de vaha pAgala kahalAtA hai aura mehanata karatA rahe vaha majadUra kahalAtA hai| parantu mehanata karatA hai use ahaMkAra kA rasa milatA hai na! lambA koTa pahanakara jAtA hai isalie loga 'seThajI Ae, seThajI Ae' karate haiM, itanA hI basa aura bhoganevAle ko aisA koI seTha-veTha kI par3I nahIM hotii| 'hamane to apanA bhogA utanA saccA' kahatA hai| abhI jo hai, vaha lakSmI hI nahIM khlaatii| yaha to pApAnubaMdhI puNyavAlI lakSmI hai| to puNya aise bA~dhe the yA ajJAna tapa kie the, usakA puNya ba~dhA huA hai| usakA phala AyA hai, usameM lakSmI aaii| yaha lakSmI vyakti ko pAgala-bAvarA banA detI hai| ise sukha kaise kahA jAe? sukha to, paise kA vicAra hI nahIM Ae, vaha sukha kahalAtA hai| hameM to varSa meM ekAdha bAra vicAra AtA hai ki jeba meM paise haiM yA nahIM? arthAt nirI narka kI vedanA bhoga rahe haiN| maiM sabhI seThoM ke vahA~ gayA huA huuN| phira yahA~ para darzana karavAtA hai, taba kucha zAMti hotI hai| maiM kahatA hU~ dAdA bhagavAna kA nAma lete rhnaa| kyoMki jJAna to unake hisAba meM AtA hI nahIM hai| unake lie vyavasthA kareM na to bhI A hI nahIM sktaa| isalie mahAduHkha hai vaha to| puNyazAlI hI bhoganA jAnatA hai lakSmI manuSya ko maz2adUra banAtI hai| yadi lakSmI z2arUrata se jyAdA A jAe, taba phira manuSya majadUra jaisA ho jAtA hai| usake pAsa lakSmI adhika hai para sAtha-sAtha vaha dAnezvara haiM, isalie acchA hai| nahIM to majadUra hI kahalAegA na! aura pUrA dina kar3I majadUrI hI karatA rahatA hai, use patnI kI bhI nahIM par3I hotI, baccoM kI nahIM par3I hotI, kisIkI bhI nahIM par3I hotI hai, sirpha lakSmI kI hI par3I hotI hai| isalie lakSmI manuSya ko dhIre-dhIre maz2adUra banA detI hai aura phira use tiryaMca gati meM le jAtI hai| kyoMki pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai na! puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ho taba to harja nahIM hai| pUNyAnubaMdhI puNya kise kahate haiM ki pare dina meM AdhA ghaMTA hI mehanata karanI pdd'e| vaha Adhe ghaMTe mehanata kare to bhI sArA kAma saralatA se dhIredhIre calatA rahatA hai| yaha jagat to aisA hai| usameM bhoganevAle bhI hote haiM aura mehanata karanevAle bhI hote haiM, saba milAjulA hotA hai| mehanata karanevAle aisA samajhate haiM ki 'yaha maiM kara rahA huuN|' usakA unameM ahaMkAra hotA hai| jaba ki bhoganevAle meM ahaMkAra nahIM hotA, taba unheM bhoktApana kA rasa milatA hai| usa mehanata karanevAle ko ahaMkAra kA garvarasa milatA hai| eka seTha mujhe kahatA hai, 'mere beTe ko kucha kahie na, mehanata nahIM praznakartA : bojha jaisA lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : nahIM, bojha to hameM hotA hI nhiiN| para hameM vaha vicAra hI nahIM hotA na! kisalie vicAra kareM? saba Age-pIche taiyAra hI hotA hai| jaise khAne-pIne kA Apake Tebala para AtA hai yA nahIM A jAtA? bhugatAna, rupayoM kA yA vedanIya kA? yaha to jise patthara lagA usakI hI bhuul| bhugate usakI bhUla sirpha utanA hI nahIM para bhugatane kA inAma bhI hai| pApa kA inAma mile to vaha usake bure kartavya kA daMDa aura phUla car3heM to vaha usake acche kartavya ke puNya kA inAma, phira bhI donoM bhugatAna hI hai, azAtA kA athavA zAtA kaa| kudarata kyA kahatI hai? usane kitane rupaye kharca kie. vaha hamAre

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya yahA~ nahIM dekhA jaataa| vaha to vedanIya kyA bhogA? zAtA yA azAtA, utanA hI hamAre yahA~ para dekhA jAtA hai| rupaye nahIM hoM to bhI zAtA bhogegA aura rupaye hoMge to bhI azAtA bhogegaa| isalie zAtA yA azAtA vedanIya bhogatA hai, vaha rupayoM para AdhArita nahIM rhtaa| saccA dhana sukha detA hai| dasa lAkha rupaye pitA ne beTe ko die hoM aura pitA kaheMge ki 'aba maiM adhyAtmika jIvana jiiuuNgaa|' taba vaha beTA hamezA zarAba meM, mA~sAhAra meM, zeyarabAz2Ara meM, sabhI meM vaha paisA kho detA hai| kyoMki jo paise galata rAste ikaTThe hote haiM, ve khuda ke pAsa rahate nahIM hai| Aja to saccA dhana bhI-saccI mehanata kA bhI dhana rahatA nahIM hai, to galata dhana kisa taraha rahegA? isalie puNya kA dhana cAhiegA, jisameM apramANikatA nahIM ho| dAnata cokhI ho, vaisA dhana ho, vaha sukha degaa| nahIM to abhI dUSamakAla kA dhana bhI puNya kA hI kahalAtA hai, para pApAnubaMdhI puNya kA hai, vaha nire pApa hI ba~dhavAtA hai| isake badale una lakSmIjI se kaheM, 'Apa AnA hI mata, itanI dUrI para hI rhnaa| usameM hamArI zobhA acchI hai aura ApakI bhI zobhA bddh'egii|' ye baMgale banate haiM, ve sabhI pApAnubaMdhI puNya khulA dikhatA hai| usameM yahA~ koI hogA, hajAra meM ekAdha vyakti ki jisakA puNyAnubaMdhI puNya hogaa| bAqI, ye sabhI pApAnubaMdhI puNya haiN| itanI lakSmI to hotI hogI kabhI? nire pApa hI bA~dhate haiM, ye to tiryaMca kI riTarna TikaTa lekara Ae hue haiN| eka minaTa bhI rahA nahIM jAe vaisA yaha saMsAra, jabaradasta puNya hotA hai to bhI bhItara aMtaradAha kama nahIM hotA, aMtaradAha niraMtara jalatA hI rahatA hai| aMtaradAha kisalie hotA hai? aMtaradAha pApa-puNya ke adhIna nahIM hai| aMtaradAha 'roga bilIfa' ke adhIna hai| cAroM ora se sAre pharsTa klAsa saMyoga hoM, to bhI aMtaradAha rahA hI karatA hai| vaha aba kaise miTe? puNya bhI aMta meM khatama ho jaaeNge| duniyA kA niyama hai ki puNya khatama ho jAte haiN| taba phira kyA hogA? pApa kA udaya hogaa| yaha to aMtaradAha hai aura pApa ke udaya ke samaya bAhara kA dAha khar3A hogaa| usa ghar3I terI kyA dazA hogI? isalie saceta ho jAo, aisA bhagavAna kahate haiN| puNya se hI prApta paisA praznakartA : isa samaya meM to pApI ke pAsa hI paisA hai| dAdAzrI : pApI ke pAsa nahIM hai| maiM Apako samajhAtA hU~ ThIka se| Apa merI bAta samajho eka bAra ki puNya ke binA to paisA Apako chuegA taka nhiiN| kAle bAjAra kA bhI nahIM chuegA yA sapheda bAjAra kA bhI nahIM chuegaa| puNya ke binA to corI kA bhI paisA hameM nahIM chuegaa| para vaha pApAnubaMdhI puNya hai| Apa kahate ho vaha pApa, vaha aMta meM pApa meM hI le jAtA hai| vaha puNya hI adhogati meM le jAtA hai| kharAba paisA Ae taba kharAba vicAra Ate haiM ki kisakA bhoga la~. pUrA dina milAvaTa karane ke vicAra Ate haiM, vaha adhogati meM jAtA hai| puNya bhogatA nahIM hai aura adhogati meM jAtA hai| isake badale puNyAnubaMdhI pApa acchA ki Aja z2arA sabjI lAne meM ar3acana par3atI hai, para pUrA dina bhagavAna kA nAma to liyA jAtA hai aura puNyAnubaMdhI puNya hoM, to vaha puNya bhogatA hai aura nayA puNya utpanna hotA hai| ...taba to parabhava kA bhI bigar3e praznakartA : Aja kA TAima aisA hai ki manuSya khuda kA bharaNapoSaNa pUrA nahIM kara sakatA hai| vaha pUrA karane ke lie use saccA-jhUThA karanA par3atA hai, to vaha kiyA jA sakatA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to aisA hai na, ki udhAra lekara ghI pIne jaisA hai| usake jaisA vaha vyApAra hai| yaha galata kie hae se to abhI kamI par3atI hai, abhI kamI par3atI hai usakA kyA kAraNa hai? vaha pApa hai isalie Aja kamI par3atI hai| sabjI nahIM, dUsarA kucha nhiiN| phira bhI abhI yadi acche vicAra Ate hoM, dharma meM - maMdira jAne ke, upAzraya meM jAne ke, kucha sevA karane ke, aise vicAra Ate hoM to Aja pApa haiM, phira bhI vaha puNya bA~dha rahA hai| parantu pApa ho aura phira se pApa bA~dhe, vaisA nahIM honA caahie|

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya pApa ho, kamI par3atI ho aura vaisA ulTA kareM to phira hamAre pAsa rahA kyA? vaha akkala kA yA mehanata kA upArjana? bAta to samajhanI par3egI na? aise kaba taka pola calegI? aura upAdhi pasaMda to hai nhiiN| yaha manuSya deha upAdhi se mukta hone ke lie hai| sirpha paise kamAne ke lie nahIM hai| paisA kisase kamAte hoMge? mehanata se kamAte hoMge yA buddhi se? praznakartA : donoM se| dAdAzrI : yadi paise mehanata se kamAe jAte to ina majadUroM ke pAsa bahuta sAre paise hote| kyoMki ye majadura hI adhika mehanata karate haiM na! aura yadi paise buddhi se hI kamAe jAte to ye sAre paMDita haiM hI na! para unake to cappala bhI AdhA ghisa gae hote hai| paise kamAnA buddhi kA khela nahIM hai yA mehanata kA phala nahIM hai| vaha to Apane pUrva meM puNya kiyA huA hai, usake phala svarUpa Apako milatA hai| aura nukasAna, vaha pApa kiyA huA hai, usake phala svarUpa hai| puNya aura pApa ke adhIna lakSmI hai| isalie lakSmI yadi cAhie ho to hameM puNya-pApa kA dhyAna rakhanA caahie| bhUlezvara meM jisakI AdhI cappaleM ghisa gaI hoM, vaise bahuta akkalamaMda loga haiN| koI vyakti mahIne ke pA~ca sau kamAtA hai, koI sAta sau kamAtA hai, koI gyAraha sau kamAtA hai| zora macAkara rakha detA hai ki gyAraha sau kamAtA huuN| are, para terI cappala to AdhI kI AdhI hI hai| dekho akkala ke kArakhAne! aura kamaakkalavAle bahuta kamAte haiN| akkalavAlA pAse DAle to sIdhe par3ate haiM yA mUrkha manuSya ke pAse sIdhe par3ate haiM? praznakartA : jisake puNya hoM, usake sIdhe par3ate haiN| dAdAzrI : basa, usameM to akkala calatI hI nahIM na! akkalavAle kA to balki viparIta hotA hai| akkala to use duHkha meM hailpa karatI hai| duHkha meM kisa taraha saba vApisa ThIka kara le, vaisI use hailpa karatI hai| akkala munIma kI aura puNya seTha kA lakSmIjI kisase AtI haiM aura kisase jAtI haiM, vaha hama jAnate haiN| lakSmIjI mehanata se nahIM AtI yA akkala se yA Trika kAma meM lene se nahIM aatiiN| lakSmI kisase kamAI jAtI hai? yadi sIdhI taraha se kamA sakate to apane maMtriyoM ko cAra Ane bhI nahIM milte| yaha lakSmI to puNya se kamAI jAtI hai| pAgala ho to bhI puNya se kamAyA karatA hai| lakSmI to puNya se AtI hai| buddhi kA upayoga karane se bhI nahIM aatii| ina milamAlikoM aura seThoM meM eka chIMTA bhI buddhi kA nahIM hotA, para lakSmI DheroM AtI hai aura unakA manIma baddhi calAtA rahatA hai, inkama Taiksa kI oNphisa meM jAtA hai taba sAhaba kI gAliyA~ bhI munIma hI khAtA hai, jaba ki seTha to ArAma se soyA huA hotA hai| eka seTha the| seTha aura unakA munIma donoM baiThe hue the, ahamadAbAda meM hI to na! lakar3I kA takhtA usake Upara gaddI, vaisA palaMga, sAmane TipoI! aura usake Upara bhojana kA thAla thaa| seTha bhojana lene baiThe the| seTha kI DijAIna btaauuN| jamIna se tIna phITa U~ce baiThe the, jamIna se Upara Der3ha phITa sir| cehare kA trikoNa AkAra aura bar3I-bar3I A~kheM aura bar3A nAka, hoMTha to moTe-moTe pakaur3e jaise aura pAsa meM phon| khAte-khAte phona AtA aura ve bAta krte| seTha ko khAnA to AtA nahIM thaa| do-tIna Tukar3e pUrI ke nIce gira gae the aura cAvala to kitanA hI bikharA huA thA niice| phona kI ghaMTI baje aura seTha kahate ki, 'do haz2Ara gaThariyA~ le lo|' aura dUsare dina do lAkha rupaye kamA letaa| munImajI baiThe-baiThe siraphor3I karate the aura seTha binA mehanata ke kamAte the| isa taraha seTha to akkala se hI kamAtA huA dikhatA hai| para vaha akkala khare samaya para puNya ke kAraNa prakAza detI hai| yaha puNya se hai| vaha to seTha ko aura munImajI ko sAtha meM rakho to samajha meM aae| kharI akkala to seTha ke munIma meM hI hotI hai, seTha meM nhiiN| yaha pUNya kahA~ se AyA? bhagavAna ko samajhakara bhajanA kI, usase? nahIM, binA samajhe bhajanA kI. islie| kisIke Upara upakAra kiyA, kisIkA bhalA kiyA, ina sabase puNya ba~dha gyaa|

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pApa-puNya 21 zrImaMtatA kise milatI hai? kyA kiyA ho to zrImaMtatA AtI hai? kitane adhika logoM kI hailpa kI ho taba lakSmI apane yahA~ AtI hai! nahIM to lakSmI AtI nhiiN| lakSmI to dene kI icchAvAle ke vahIM para AtI hai| jo dUsaroM ke lie ghise, dhokhA khAe, nobeliTI kA upayoga kare, usake pAsa lakSmI AtI hai| calI gaI aisA lagatA jarUra hai, para Akara phira vahIM para khar3I rahatI hai| praznakartA: Apane likhA hai ki jo kamAtA hai, vaha bar3e manavAlA hI kamAtA hai / dene-lene meM jo bar3A mana rakhe vahI kamAI karatA hai| bAqI, saMkucita manavAlA kamAtA hI nahIM kabhI bhI! dAdAzrI : hA~, sabhI prakAra se nobala ho, to lakSmI vahA~ jAtI hai| ina pAjiyoM ke pAsa lakSmI jAtI hogI? praznakartA: yAnI puNya ke kAraNa manuSya dhanavAna banatA hai? dAdAzrI : dhanavAna hone ke lie to puNya caahie| puNya ho to paisA AtA hai| praznakartA: paise ke lie to likhA hai na ki buddhi kI jarUrata par3atI hai| dAdAzrI : nhiiN| buddhi to naphA-nukasAna do hI dikhAtI hai| jahA~ jAo vahA~ naphA-nukasAna vaha dikhA detI hai| vaha kucha paise-vaise nahIM detii| buddhi yadi paise de rahI hotI na to ye bhUlezvara (muMbaI kA eka ilAkA) meM itane sAre buddhizAlI munIma hote haiM, jo seTha ko samajha meM nahIM AtA vaha saba use samajha meM A jAtA hai| para cappala becAre ke pIche se Adhe ghisa gae hote haiM aura seTha to sAr3he tIna sau rupaye ke bUTa pahanakara ghUmate haiM, phira bhI Dhapola hote haiM ! paisA kamAne ke lie puNya kI z2arUrata hai| buddhi se to ulTe pA ba~dhate haiN| buddhi se paise kamAne jAe~ to pApa ba~dhate haiN| mujhameM buddhi nahIM hai isalie pApa nahIM ba~dhate / hamameM buddhi eka senTa parasenTa nahIM hai ! 22 pApa-puNya lakSmIjI kisake pIche? lakSmIjI to puNyazAliyoM ke pIche hI ghUmatI rahatI hai| aura mehanatI loga lakSmIjI ke pIche ghUmate rahate haiN| isalie hameM dekha lenA cAhie ki puNya hoMge to lakSmIjI pIche aaeNgii| nahIM to mehanata se to roTI milegI, khAne-pIne kA milegA aura ekAdha beTI hogI to usakI zAdI hogii| bAqI, puNya ke binA lakSmI nahIM miltii| isalie kharI haqIqata kyA kahatI hai| ki 'tU yadi puNyazAlI hai to kisalie chaTapaTAtA hai? aura tU puNyazAlI nahIM hai to bhI chaTapaTAtA kisalie hai?' puNyazAlI to kaise hote haiM? ye amaladAra bhI oNphisa se akulAkara ghara vApisa Ate haiM, taba memasAhibA kyA kahegI, 'Der3ha ghaMTA leTa hue, kahA~ gae the?' ye dekho puNyazAlI! puNyazAlI ko aisA hotA hogA? puNyazAlI ko eka ulTA havA kA jhoMkA nahIM lgtaa| bacapana se hI vaha kvaoNliTI alaga hotI hai| apamAna kA yoga nahIM milatA hai| jahA~ jAe vahA~ 'Ao, Ao bhAI' usa taraha se pale-bar3e hote haiN| aura ye to jahA~-tahA~ TakarAtA rahatA hai| usakA artha kyA hai phira ? vApisa puNya khatama ho jAe~ na, taba the vaise ke vaise ! isalie tU puNyazAlI nahIM to pUrI rAta paTTA bA~dhakara ghUme to bhI subaha meM kyA pacAsa mila jAe~ge? isalie chaTapaTAnA mata, aura jo milA usameM khA-pIkara so jA na cupacApa / praznakartA: vaha to prArabdhavAda huA na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, prArabdhavAda nhiiN| tU apanI taraha se kAma kara / mehanata karake roTI khaa| bAqI, anya prakAra se kyoM chaTapaTAtA rahatA hai? aise ikaTThA karU~ aura vaise ikaTThA karU~ ! yadi tujhe ghara meM mAna nahIM hai, bAhara mAna nahIM hai to kisalie hAtha-paira mAratA hai? aura jahA~ jAe vahA~ use 'Ao, baiTho' kahanevAle hote haiM, aise bar3e-bar3e puNya lAe hoM, unakI bAta hI alaga hotI hai na? ye seTha pUrI z2indagI ke paccIsa lAkha lekara Ae hote haiM, ve paccIsa lAkha ke bAisa lAkha karate haiM para bar3hAte nahIM haiN| bar3hate kaba hai? hamezA

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pApa-puNya 23 24 pApa-puNya hI dharma meM rahe to| para yadi khuda bhItara dakhala karane gayA to bigdd'aa| kudarata meM hAtha DAlane gayA ki bigdd'aa| lakSmI AtI hai para kucha milatA nahIM hai| renka, puNyazAliyoM kI..... ye bar3e-bar3e cakravartI rAjA the, unheM yaha dina hai yA rAta hai, usakI khabara nahIM rahatI thii| unhoMne sUryanArAyaNa bhI nahIM dekhe hoM, phira bhI bar3A rAjya sa~bhAlate the| kyoMki puNya kAma karatA hai| praznakartA : zAlibhadra seTha ko devI-devatA Upara se sone ke sikkoM kI peTiyA~ dete the, to kyA vaha saca hai? nahIM hotaa| thor3I bhI mehanata, kucha to caahie| praznakartA : parantu manuSyoM meM vaisA nahIM ho sktaa| dAdAzrI : manuSyoM meM bhI hotA hai| kyoM nahIM hogA? manuSyoM meM to cAhie utanA hogaa| praznakartA : vaha to aisA kahA huA hai ki devaloka meM aisA hotA dAdAzrI : devaloka kA sabakucha siddha hotA hai| para yahA~ para bhI kisI-kisIko saMkalpa siddhi ho jAtI hai| saba hotA hai, apanA puNya caahie| puNya nahIM hai| puNya kama par3a gae haiN| jitanI mehanata utane aMtarAya, kyoMki mehanata kyoM karanI par3a rahI dAdAzrI : hA~, dete haiN| sabakucha dete haiN| unakA puNya ho taba taka kyA nahIM deMge? aura devI-devatA ke sAtha RNAnubaMdha hotA hai| unake riztedAra vahA~ (devaloka) gae hoM aura puNya ho to unheM kyA nahIM deMge? puNyazAliyoM ko kama mehanata se sabakucha phalatA hai| itane taka puNya ho sakatA hai| sahaja vicAra AyA, kucha prayatna nahIM kareM to bhI sabhI vastue~ soce anusAra mila jAtI haiM, vaha sahaja prytn| prayatna nimitta hai para sahaja prayatna ko puruSArtha kahanA, vaha sArI paribhASA bhUla se bharI huI hai| lakSmI arthAt puNyazAlI logoM kA kAma hai| puNya kA hisAba aisA hai ki khUba mehanata kare aura kama se kama milatA hai, vaha bahuta hI thor3A sAdhAraNa puNya kahalAtA hai| phira zArIrika mehanata bahata nahIM karanI par3e aura vANI kI mehanata bahuta karanI par3e, vakIloM kI taraha, vaha thor3A adhika puNya kahalAtA hai, majadUra kI tulanA meM aura usase Age kA kyA? vANI kI jhaMjhaTa bhI nahIM karanI par3atI, zarIra kI jhaMjhaTa bhI nahIM karanI par3atI, para mAnasika jhaMjhaTa se kamAtA hai, vaha adhika puNyazAlI kahalAtA hai| aura usase bhI Age kauna-sA? saMkalpa karate hI taiyAra ho jaae| saMkalpa kiyA vaha mehanata / saMkalpa kiyA ki do baMgale, yaha eka godaam| aisA saMkalpa kiyA ki saba taiyAra ho jAtA hai, vaha mahAna punnyshaalii| saMkalpa kare vaha mehanata, basa saMkalpa karanA par3atA hai| saMkalpa ke binA arthAt isa jagat meM sabase adhika puNyazAlI kauna? jise thor3A bhI vicAra Ae, vaha nizcita kare aura varSoM taka binA icchA ke, binA mehanata ke milatA hI rahe vh| dUsare naMbara para, icchA ho, aura vaha bArabAra nizcita kare aura zAma ko sahaja prakAra se mila jAe vh| tIsare naMbaravAle ko icchA hotI hai aura prayatna karatA hai aura prApta ho jAtA hai| cauthe naMbaravAle ko icchA hotI hai aura bhayaMkara prayatna se prApta hotA hai| pA~cave ko icchA hotI hai aura bhayaMkara prayatnoM se bhI prApta nahIM hotaa| ina majadUroM ko kaThora mehanata karanI par3atI hai aura Upara se gAliyA~ khAte haiM phira bhI paise nahIM milte| mileM to bhI ThikAnA nahIM ki ghara jAkara khAne ko milegaa| ve sabase adhika prayatna karate haiM, phira bhI prApti nahIM hotii| puNya se hI prApta satsaMga Apane puNya kiyA huA hai yA nahIM? isIlie to sI.e. hue| praznakartA : abhI taka pApa nahIM kiyA, puNya hI kiyA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha to aisA lagatA hai| pApa bhI kiyA hai para pApa kama

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pApa-puNya kiyA hogA, puNya adhika kiyA hogaa| isalie to isa satsaMga meM Ane kA TAima milA, yahA~ A sake, nahIM to satsaMga meM Ane kA TAima kise hotA hai? puNya-pApa ke pariNAma svarUpa... praznakartA : pApa aura puNya se usakA saMbaMdha kisa prakAra hotA hai? dAdAzrI : yaha pApa hai vaha, abhI Apa yahA~ para Ae ho to Apa yahA~ kisIko Thokara nahIM lage aise sa~bhalakara calate ho aura Thokara lage vaisI jagaha ho, jagaha vaisI bhIr3avAlI ho, para mana meM soca hotI hai ki kisIko lage nahIM to acchA, aisI bhAvanA se yahA~ Ao, to Apako puNya bNdhegaa| aura, bhIr3a hai isalie laga bhI jAtI hai, vaisI bhAvanA se Ao taba pApa bNdhegaa| kisIko apane se kiMcita mAtra duHkha ho jAe, to use pApa hI ba~dhatA hai| kisIko sukha pahu~ce, zAMti ho, kisIke dila ko ThaMDaka ho, usase nirA puNya ba~dhatA hai| aba ve pUrva ke ba~dhe hue pApa, ve isa bhava meM vApisa udaya meM Ate haiN| yojanA jo pichale janma meM huI thI, vaha isa janma meM phalIbhUta hotI pApa-puNya praznakartA : karatA hI hai| dAdAzrI : are, eka vyakti ne dAvA dAyara kiyA thA bApa para, usane kyA-kyA kiyA phira? usane dAvA dAyara karane ke bAda vakIla se aisA kahA, ki pitAjI hAra gae to harja nahIM, vaha to acchA ho gayA ab| lo, yaha ApakI tIna sau rupaye kI ph'iis| para abhI eka bAra claao| taba kahe, 'kyoM aba kyA hai?' taba usane kahA, 'nAka kaTavAnI hai|' are mue, bApa kI nAka kaTavAnI hai? taba kahatA hai, 'hA~, usake lie maiM Der3ha sau rupaye duuNgaa|' to vahA~ para phajItA karavAyA, nAka kttvaaii| yAnI jaba apanI bhUla ho aura pApa (kA udaya) ho taba, beTA bhI duzmana ho jAtA hai| parama mitra kauna? puNya acchA ho to sabakucha acchA hai| isalie puNyarUpI mitra ho to jahA~ jAo vahA~ sukha, sukha aura sukh| vaha mitra honA caahie| pApa rUpI mitra AyA ki ghusA lagAe binA rahegA nhiiN| phira samabhAva se nikAla nahIM hotA, taba cillAnA par3atA hai| praznakartA : vaha jo Apane kahA hai ki puNya cAhe jahA~ mitra kI taraha kAma karatA hai... dAdAzrI : hA~, kharAba se kharAba jagaha para Apako, kisI bhI jagaha para jahA~ pha~sa jAo, vahA~ ApakA puNya kAryAnvita hokara khar3A rahatA hai| praznakartA : pApa ghara meM bhI duHkhI karatA hai| dAdAzrI : pApa ghara meM bistara meM mAra DAlatA hai| bistara meM ciMtA karavAtA hai, pharsTaklAsa bistara bichAyA, usa para bhI ciMtA karavAtA hai| pApa chor3atA nahIM na! isalie hI saMtoM ne kahA huA hai, pApa se ddro| kaisA puNya cAhie mokSa ke lie? praznakartA : jaba taka mokSa ke mArga para nahIM pahu~ce, taba taka puNya nAma ke gAiDa kI z2arUrata par3atI hai na? jaba pApa kA udaya AtA hai taba parA dina mana meM vicAra. kharAba ciMtA ke vicAra AyA karate haiM, bAhara bhI nakasAna hotA hai. bacce virodha karate haiM, pArTanara ke sAtha jhagar3e hote haiM, pApa kA udaya ho tb| aura puNya kA udaya ho taba duzmana ho na, vaha bhI Akara kahegA, 'are caMdUbhAI, koI kAmakAja ho to mujhe kahanA...' are, tU duzmana, para taba to puNya kA udaya AyA thA aapkaa| isalie puNya ke udaya meM zatru mitra bana jAtA hai| aura pApa kA udaya ho, taba beTA zatru bana jAtA hai| koI beTA bApa ke Upara dAvA dAyara karatA hai kyA?

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pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : hA~, usa puNya ke gAiDa ke lie to loga zubhAzubha meM par3e haiM na! usa gAiDa se sabhI milegaa| para mokSa ke mArga meM jAte hue puNya ba~dhatA hai, para aise puNya kI z2arUrata nahIM hai| mokSa meM jAnevAloM kA puNya to kaisA hotA hai? use jagat meM sUryanArAyaNa uge yA nahIM, vaha bhI patA nahIM calatA aura pUrI z2indagI bIta jAtI hai, vaise puNya hote haiN| to phira aise kacare jaise puNya kA kyA karanA hai? nahIM hotI bAkI pApa kI kabhI praznakartA : yaha mArga nahIM mile, taba taka to usa puNya kI z2arUrata hai na? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha ThIka hai| para logoM ke pAsa kahA~ puNya sAbuta hai? kucha bhI ThikAnA nahIM hai| kyoMki ApakI kyA icchA hai? taba kahe ki puNya karo to pApa kA udaya nahIM aaegaa| jaba ki bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM? tUne sau rupaye kA puNya bA~dhA to tere khAte meM sau rupaye jamA ho jAte haiN| usake bAda do rupaye jitanA pApa kiyA yAnI ki kisI manuSya ko 'haTa, haTa, dUra khisaka' aisA kahA, usameM thor3A tiraskAra A gyaa| aba usakA jamA-udhAra nahIM hotaa| bhagavAna koI kaccI mAyA nahIM hai| yadi puNya-pApa kA jamA-udhAra hotA taba to isa vaNika jAti ke vahA~ thor3A bhI duHkha nahIM hotA! para ye to sukha bhI bhogo aura duHkha bhI bhogo, bhagavAna kaise pakke! praznakartA : puNya ke rAste para manuSya yadi jAe to phira pApa kisalie AtA hai? dAdAzrI : vaha to hamezA se hI niyama hai na, ki koI bhI kArya Apa karo, to puNya kA kArya ho to Apake sau rupaye jamA hote haiM aura pApa kA kArya ho to bhale thor3A hI, eka hI rupaye kA ho to bhI vaha Apake khAte meM udhArI meM jAtA hai aura vaha sau meM se eka bhI kama nahIM hotaa| usa taraha yadi ghaTatA to koI pApa lagatA hI nhiiN| arthAt donoM alagaalaga rahe haiM aura donoM ke phala bhI alaga-alaga Ate haiN| pApa kA phala pApa-puNya Ae taba kar3avA lagatA hai| puNya meM se pApa isa taraha nahIM ghaTate haiN| yadi ghaTa jAte taba to loga to bahuta hI pkke| bilakula bhI duHkha nahIM aataa| eka bhI beTA maratA nahIM yA beTI maratI nhiiN| naukara corI nahIM krte| kucha bhI nahIM krte| maje hote| yaha to puNya ghera leM to moTaroM meM mauja-maz2A bhI karavAte haiM aura pApa ghera leM taba usI moTara se eksiDenTa karavAtA hai| yaha to saba ghera legaa| bhItara hogA utanA sAmAna ghera legaa| nahIM hogA to kahA~ se gheregA? jo hai vaha hisAba hai| usameM kucha bhI badalAva nahIM hogaa| __ anajAne meM hue pApoM kA? praznakartA : yaha maiMne pApa kiyA yA puNya kiyA, aisI samajha nahIM ho to pApa-puNya hotA hai? use samajha hI nahIM ho ki yaha maiMne pApa kiyA aura yaha maiMne puNya kiyA to usakA bilakula asara use nahIM hI hogA na? dAdAzrI : kudarata kA niyama aisA hai ki Apako samajha ho yA samajha nahIM ho, phira bhI usakA asara hue binA rahatA nahIM hai| isa per3a ko kATA, usameM Apa koI pApa yA puNya samajhate nahIM hoM, para usase per3a ko du:kha to huA hI hai na? isalie Apako pApa lgaa| Apa cAra ghaMTe lAina meM khar3e rahakara rAzana meM se kaMTrola kI cInI kI thailI lekara jA rahe hoM aura thailI meM cheda ho to usameM se cInI bikhara rahI ho to vaha cInI kisIke kAma AegI yA nahIM? nIce cIMTiyA~ hotI haiM, ve cInI ko le jAtI haiM aura cIMTiyoM kA bhalA ho jAtA hai| aba ise Apane dAna diyA, aisA kahA jaaegaa| bhale binA samajhe, para dAna hotA hai na? apanI jAnakArI meM nahIM hai, phira bhI dAna hotA rahatA hai na! aura cIMTiyoM ko sukha hotA hai na? usase Apako puNya ba~dhatA hai| usakA phala bhI binA samajhe bhoga liyA jAtA hai! kitane hI kahate haiM ki anajAne meM pApa ho jAe to usakA phala kucha nahIM aataa| nahIM kyoM AegA? mue, anajAne meM aMgAroM para hAtha rakha

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10 pApa-puNya pApa-puNya to patA calegA ki phala AtA hai yA nhiiN| jAna-bUjhakara kiyA huA pApa aura anajAne meM kiyA huA pApa, ve donoM eka sarIkhe haiN| parantu anajAne meM kie hue pApa kA phala anajAne meM aura jAna-bUjhakara kie hue pApa kA phala jAna-bUjhakara bhoganA par3atA hai, utanA pharka hai| basa yahI tarIkA hai| yaha niyamAnusAra hai sArA, yaha jagat bilakula niyamAnusAra hai, nyAyasvarUpa hai| anajAne meM jo hotA hai, usakA phala anajAne meM milatA hai| vaha Apako samajhAtA huuN| ___eka manuSya sAta varSa taka rAjya karatA hai aura dUsarA eka manuSya bhI sAta varSa taka rAjya karatA hai| aba donoM kA rAjya karanA eka sarIkhA hI hai aura rAjya bhI donoM eka sarIkhe hI haiM, para isameM eka manuSya tIna varSa kI umra meM gaddI para baiThatA hai aura dasa varSa kI umra meM rAjya calA jAtA hai aura dUsarA manuSya bIsa varSa kI umra meM gaddI para baiThatA hai, vaha sattAIsa varSa kI umra meM gaddI se uTha jAtA hai to kisane saca meM rAjya bhogA kahA jAegA? pahalevAle kA bacapana meM calA gayA, use khilaune do to vaha khilaunA khelane baiTha jAegA! ulTA Ae taba seTha ke mana meM hotA hai ki isa bAra isakI tanakhvAha kATa lenI caahie| jaba seTha tanakhvAha kATa le to naukara ke mana meM aisA hotA hai ki yaha seTha nAlAyaka hai| yaha nAlAyaka mujhe milaa| para aisA guNAkAra karanevAle vyakti ko mAlUma nahIM hai ki yaha nAlAyaka hotA to inAma kisalie detA thA? isalie koI bhUla hai| seTha Ter3hA nahIM hai| yaha to apanA 'vyavasthita' badala rahA hai| yaha saba puNya calAtA hai| tujhe haz2Ara rupaye tanaqhvAha kauna detA hai? tanakhvAha denevAlA terA seTha bhI puNya ke adhIna hai| pApa ghera leM to seTha ko bhI karmacArI mArate haiN| jAgRti, puNya aura pApa ke udaya meM... praznakartA : logoM kA puNya hogA isalie yaha saMpatti prApta huii| dAdAzrI : vaha saba puNya hai na, jabaradasta puNya hai na, para saMpatti ko sa~bhAlanA muzkila ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : isalie vaha ThIka hai| upAdhi to hai hI na? zurUAta phira vahA~ se hI hotI hai| dAdAzrI : saMpatti nahIM ho usake jaisA to kucha bhI nhiiN| praznakartA : paise nahIM ho, saMpatti nahIM ho, to usake jaisA kucha bhI nahIM? dAdAzrI : hA~, usake jaisA to kucha bhI nhiiN| saMpatti to upAdhi hai| saMpatti yadi isa tarapha dharma meM mur3a hI gaI ho to harja nahIM hai, nahIM to upAdhi ho jAtI hai| kise deM? aba kahA~ rakheM? vaha saba upAdhi ho jAtI hai! isalie bahuta puNya bhI kAma kA nahIM hai| puNya bhI saMtulita ho to hI acchaa| bahuta puNya ho to zarIra itanA bar3A ho jAtA hai| kyA karanA hai use? kitane kilo kA zarIra? hama uThAe~ aura palaMga ko bhI uThAnA isalie yaha nAsamajhI meM kie hue puNya kA phala hai| ye darzana kie the binA samajhe, to vaha binA samajhe hI phala bhogegaa| samajhakara kie hue kA phala samajha se bhogatA hai! usI prakAra jAgRta mAinDa se kie gae pApa jAgatipUrvaka bhogane par3ate haiM aura ajAgRtipUrvaka kie gae pApa ajAgRtipUrvaka bhogane par3ate haiN| usameM bacapana meM tIna varSa kI umra meM mA~ mara jAe to rotA-karatA nahIM hai| use patA bhI nahIM hotaa| samajhatA hI nahIM, vahA~ para kyA kare? aura paccIsa varSa kA ho aura usakI mA~ mara jAe to? yAnI yaha jAnate hue duHkha bhogatA hai aura baccA anajAne meM bhugatatA hai| kusUra seTha kA yA apane pApoM kA? seTha inAma dete haiM, vaha apanA vyavasthita hai aura apanA vyavasthita

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pApa-puNya caahie| yaha itanA ghAsa kATakara yA aisA-vaisA karake, zAma ko dasa-bIsa DaoNlara le Ae, bahuta huA, kamI to nahIM pdd'egii| taba kahe, nahIM, hameM to ye loga dekha leMge to kyA kaheMge? are mUrkha, logoM ke pAsa to jaoNba hai, tere pAsa jaoNba nahIM hai, tU pahale isakI phikra krnaa| kisIkI AbarU isa duniyA meM rahI nahIM hai| sabhI ne kapar3e pahana lie haiM, isalie AbarUdAra dikhate haiM aura kapar3e nikAla deM to saba naMge dikheNge| sirpha jJAnI puruSa akele kapar3e utAra deM, to bhI naMge nahIM dikheNge| bAqI yaha pUrA jagat naMgA hai| pApa-puNya par3e na? palaMga bhI cUM-dhUM karatA rahe na? praznakartA : pApa aura puNya kA udaya ho, usakA jIvana kI ghaTanAoM para kucha asara hotA hai, usakA koI udAharaNa dekara smjhaaie| dAdAzrI : pApa kA udaya ho, taba pahale to jaoNba (naukarI) calI jAtI hai| phira kyA hotA hai? vAipha aura beTA ho, vahA~ sTora meM jAne ke lie paise mA~gate haiN| vaha Adata pahale kI par3I huI hai, usa anusAra kaheMge, do sau DaoNlara dIjie, isalie kalaha hotA hai phir| yahA~ sarvisa nahIM aura kyA zora macAtI rahatI hai binA kAma ke? do sau-do sau DaoNlara kA kharcA karanA hai? yaha aise zurU hotA hai, saba ArAma se| vaha bhI roz2a kalaha, phira patnI kahegI, baiMka meM se lAkara nahIM dete ho| taba baiMka meM thor3A rahane deM yA nahIM rahane deM? yahA~ isakA kirAyA denA pdd'egaa| yaha saba nahIM karanA par3egA? baiMka meM paise nahIM bharane par3eMge? parantu patnI kalaha karatI hai, to dimAga paka jAe vaisI kalaha karatI hai| ye sabhI lakSaNa to rAta ko sone bhI nahIM dete, yahA~ amarIkA meM kitanoM ko aisA anubhava hotA hogA aura kahate bhI haiM karkazA hai| rAMDa aura karkazA hai, aise zabda bolate haiN| yAnI jitane zabda Ae~ utane kaThora zabda bolatA hai| chor3atA nahIM na? use parezAna karatI rahatI hai, becAre usakI isa bAra naukarI calI gaI, eka to ThikAnA nahIM par3atA aura dimAga ulTA hI cala rahA hotA hai, usameM phira yaha parezAna karatI hai| hotA hai yA nahIM hotA vaisA? praznakartA : hotA hai, hotA hai| dAdAzrI : kisI jagaha para hotA hogA yA bahuta jagahoM para? jaoNba calI gaI ho, ve mujhe milate haiM, 'dAdA jaoNba calI gaI hai, kyA karU~?' khegaa| vaha jaoNba calI gaI ho aura dina bahuta acchI taraha se nikAle, vaha vivekI manuSya kahalAtA hai| patnI aura khuda donoM acchI taraha dina gujAreM vaha vivekii| naye kapar3e nahIM lAte aura pahale ke kapar3e hoM na, vahI pahanate haiN| jaba taka naukarI nahIM mile na, taba taka utanA TAima nikAla lete haiN| aura patiyoM ko utsAhI rahanA cAhie, jaoNba calI jAe usase DaranA nahIM praznakartA : eka tarapha jaoNba gaI ho aura dUsarI tarapha dAdA mile hoM, to vaha pApa aura puNya donoM ikaTThe ho gae? dAdAzrI : yaha pApa kA udaya acchA AyA ki dAdA mila gae, isalie dAdA hameM pApa meM kyA karanA cAhie, vaha batA dete haiM aura hamArA saba ThikAne para lA dete haiN| aura puNya kA udaya ho aura dAdA mile hoM, to usameM kyA dAdA ke pAsa se jAnane ko milA hameM? aura pApa kA udaya ho taba dAdA kaheMge ki dekha bhAI, isa taraha baratanA haM, aba aisA karo, vaisA karo aura saba ThikAne para lA dete haiN| arthAt pApa kA udaya ho aura dAdA mila jAe~, vaha bahuta acchA kahalAtA hai| rahasya, buddhi ke Azaya ke... hara eka vyakti ko khuda ke ghara meM AnaMda AtA hai| jhoMpar3IvAle ko baMgale meM AnaMda nahIM AtA aura baMgalevAle ko jhoMpar3I meM AnaMda nahIM aataa| usakA kAraNa usakI buddhi kA Azaya hai| jo jaisA buddhi ke Azaya meM bharakara lAyA hotA hai, vaisA hI use milatA hai| buddhi ke Azaya meM jo bharA huA hotA hai, usakI do phoTo khiMcatI hai, (1) pApaphala aura (2) punnyphl| buddhi ke Azaya kA hara eka ne vibhAjana kiyA hai| usa sau pratizata meM se adhikatara pratizata moTara-baMgalA, beTe-beTiyA~ aura patnI, una sabake lie bharA hai| to vaha saba prApta karane meM puNya kharca ho gayA aura dharma ke lie muzkila se eka-do pratizata hI buddhi ke Azaya meM bhre|

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pApa-puNya 34 pApa-puNya hai vaha bhale ho, para aba to mAtra Azaya badalakara saMpUrNa sau pratizata dharma ke lie hI rkho| hama apane buddhi ke Azaya meM paMcAnabe pratizata dharma aura jagat kalyANa kI bhAvanA lAe haiN| anya kisI jagaha hamArA puNya kharca huA hI nahIM hai| paise, moTara, baMgalA, beTA, beTI kahIM bhI nhiiN| hameM jo-jo mile aura jJAna lekara gae, unhoMne do-pA~ca pratizata dharma ke lie, mukti ke lie rakhe the| isalie hama mile| hamane pare sau pratizata dharma meM DAle the, isalie hameM sabhI ora hameM dharma ke lie 'no oNbjekzana sarTiphikeTa' milA hai| praznakartA : buddhi kA Azaya z2arA vizeSa rUpa se samajhAie na, daadaa| dAdAzrI : buddhi kA Azaya matalaba 'hameM basa corI karake hI calAnA hai| kAlA bAjAra karake hI calAnA hai| koI kahegA, 'hameM corI kabhI bhI nahIM karanI hai|' koI kahegA, 'mujhe aisA bhoga lenA hai, vaha vaisA bhoga lene ke lie ekAMta kI jagaha bhI taiyAra kara detA hai| usameM phira pApa-puNya kAma karatA hai| jo kucha bhogane kI icchA kI hotI hai, vaisA saba use mila AtA hai| mAnane meM nahIM Ae vaisA saba bhI use mila jAtA hai| kyoMki usakI buddhi ke Azaya meM thA aura puNya kAma kare to koI use pakar3a bhI nahIM sakatA, cAhe jitane pahare lagAe hoM to bhI! aura puNya pUrA ho jAe, taba yoM hI pakar3A jAtA hai| choTA baccA bhI use DhUMDha nikAlatA hai ki, 'aisA ghoTAlA hai idhara!' do cora corI karate haiM, usameM se eka pakar3A jAtA hai aura dUsarA Az2Ada chUTa jAtA hai, vaha kyA sUcita karatA hai? corI karanI hai vaisA, buddhi ke Azaya meM to donoM hI corI lAe the| para unameM jo pakar3A gayA, usakA pApaphala udaya meM AyA aura udaya meM Akara kharca ho gyaa| jaba ki dUsarA jo chUTa gayA, usakA puNya usameM kharca ho gyaa| vaise hI hara eka ke buddhi ke Azaya meM jo hotA hai, usameM pApa aura puNya kArya karate haiN| buddhi ke Azaya meM lakSmI prApta karanI hai vaisA bharakara lAyA, usameM usakA puNya kAma meM Ae to lakSmI kA Dhera laga jAtA hai| dUsarA buddhi ke Azaya meM lakSmI prApta karanI hai vaisA lekara to AyA, para usameM puNya kAma Ane ke badale pApaphala sAmane aayaa| use lakSmIjI mu~ha bhI nahIM dikhaatiiN| are, yaha to itanA adhika cokhA hisAba hai ki kisIkA jarA bhI cale vaisA nahIM hai| jaba ki ye akkarmI mAna lete haiM ki maiM dasa lAkha rupaye kmaayaa| are, yaha to puNya kharca huA aura vaha bhI ulTe raaste| usake badale terA buddhi kA Azaya bdl| dharma ke lie hI buddhi kA Azaya bA~dhane jaisA hai| ye jar3a vastue~ moTara, baMgale, reDiyo una sabhI kI bhajanA kI, sirpha usake lie hI buddhi kA Azaya bA~dhane jaisA nahIM hai| dharma ke lie hI - Atmadharma ke lie hI buddhi kA Azaya rkho| abhI Apako jo prApta anaMta janmoM se mokSa kA niyANAM (apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA) kiyA hai, parantu parA pakkA niyANAM nahIM kiyA hai| yadi mokSa ke lie hI pakkA niyANAM kiyA ho to sabhI puNya usameM hI kharca ho| AtmA ke lie jIe~ vaha puNya hai aura saMsAra ke lie jIe~ to nirA pApa hai| pasaMda, puNya ke baTavAre kI... isalie yaha puNya hai na, vaha hama jaisI mA~ga kareM na usameM baMTa jAtA hai| koI kahegA, mujhe itanI zarAba cAhie, aisA cAhie, vaisA caahie| to usameM baMTa jAtA hai| koI kahegA, mujhe moTara cAhie, aura ghr| taba kahe, do rUma hoMge to clegaa| do rUma kA use saMtoSa hotA hai aura moTara calAne ko milatI hai| ina logoM ko saMtoSa rahatA hogA, choTI-choTI jhoMpar3iyoM meM rahate haiM una sabhI ko? kharA sNtoss| isalie to unheM vaha ghara pasaMda AtA hai| vaisA ho tabhI acchA lagatA hai| abhI usa AdivAsI ko apane yahA~ para lAkara dekho| cAra dina rakhakara dekho? use caina nahIM par3egA ismeN| kyoMki usakA buddhi kA Azaya hai aura usake anusAra puNya kA Divijana hotA hai| TenDara ke anusAra AiTama milatA hai|

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pApa-puNya praznakartA : puNya-pApa ke hI adhIna ho to phira TenDara bharane ko kahA~ rahA? dAdAzrI : yaha TenDara bharA jAtA hai, vaha pApa-puNya ke udaya ke anusAra hI bharA jAtA hai| isalie maiM kahatA bhI hU~ ki 'TenDara' bharo, para maiM jAnatA hU~ ki kisa AdhAra para TenDara bharA jAtA hai| ina donoM kAnUna ke bAhara cala sake vaisA nahIM hai| maiM bahuta logoM ko mere pAsa 'TenDara' bharakara lAne ko kahatA huuN| para koI bharakara nahIM lAyA hai| kisa taraha bhareM? vaha pApa-puNya ke adhIna hai| isalie pApa kA udaya ho taba bahuta bhAga-daur3a karegA to, balki jo hai vaha bhI calA jaaegaa| isalie ghara jAkara so jA aura thor3A-thor3A sAdhAraNa kAma kara, aura puNya kA udaya ho to bhaTakane kI z2arUrata hI kyA hai? ghara baiThe Amane-sAmane thor3A-sA kAma karane se saba A milatA hai, isalie donoM hI sthitiyoM meM bhAga-daur3a karane ko manA karate haiN| bAta ko sirpha samajhane kI hI z2arUrata hai| puNya ke khela ke sAmane mithyA prayatna kyoM? puNya phala dene ke lie sammukha huA hai, to kisalie mithyA prayatna meM lagA hai? aura yadi puNya phala dene ke lie sammakha nahIM huA to dakhala kisalie karatA hai binA kAma ke? sammukha nahIM huA aura tU daqhala karegA to bhI kucha honevAlA nahIM hai| aura sammukha huA ho to dakhala kisalie karatA hai tU? puNya jaba phala dene ko taiyAra hogA to dera hI nahIM lgegii| pApa-puNya kI linka... koI bAhara kA vyakti mere pAsa vyavahAra se salAha lene Ae ki, 'maiM cAhe jitanA siraphoDI karatA hU~ to bhI kucha hotA nahIM hai|' taba maiM kahatA hU~, 'abhI terA udaya pApa kA hai| tU kisIke vahA~ se rupaye udhAra lekara AegA to rAste meM terI jeba kaTa jAegI ! isalie abhI ArAma se ghara baiThakara, tU jo zAstra par3hatA ho vaha par3ha aura bhagavAna kA nAma letA rh|' pApa-puNya hama 1968 meM jayagar3ha kI jeTI banA rahe the| vahA~ eka kAnTraikTara mere pAsa aayaa| vaha mujhase pUchane lagA, 'maiM mere guru mahArAja ke pAsa jAtA haiN| hara sAla mere paise bar3hate hI rahate haiN| merI icchA nahIM, phira bhI bar3hate haiM, to kyA vaha guru kI kRpA hai?' maiMne use kahA, 'vaha guru kI kRpA hai, vaisA mAnanA mt| yadi paise cale jAe~ge to tujhe aisA hogA ki lAo, guru ko patthara mArU~!' isameM guru to nimitta haiM, unake AzISa nimitta haiN| guru ko hI cAhie hoM to cAra Ane nahIM mileM na! isalie phira usane mujhase pUchA ki, 'mujhe kyA karanA cAhie?' maiMne kahA, 'dAdA kA nAma lenaa|' abhI taka terI puNya kI linka AI thii| linka matalaba aMdhere meM pattA uThAe to cogA Ae, phira paMjA Ae, phira vApisa uThAe to chakkA aae| to loga kaheM ki, 'vAha seTha, vAha seTha, kahanA pdd'egaa|' vaisA tujhe eka sau sAta bAra taka saccA paDatA hai| para aba badalanevAlA hai| isIlie sAvadhAna rhnaa| aba tU nikAlegA to sattAvana ke bAda tIna AegA aura tIna ke bAda eka sau gyAraha AegA! taba loga tumheM buddhU kheNge| isalie ina dAdA kA nAma chor3anA nhiiN| nahIM to mArA jaaegaa| phira hama muMbaI A ge| vaha AdamI do-cAra dina bAda yaha bAta bhUla gyaa| use phira bahuta bhArI nukasAna huaa| isalie una pati-patnI donoM ne khaTamala mArane kI davAI pI lI! para puNyazAlI itanA ki usakA bhAI hI DaoNkTara thaa| vaha AyA aura baca gayA! phira vaha moTara lekara daur3atA huA mere pAsa aayaa| maiMne use kahA, 'ina dAdA kA nAma lete rahanA aura phira aisA kabhI bhI mata krnaa|' taba phira vaha nAma letA rhaa| usake pApa saba dhula gae aura saba ThIka ho gyaa| 'dAdA' boleM usa ghar3I pApa pAsa meM Ate hI nhiiN| cAroM tarapha phirate rahate haiM para chUte nahIM aapko| Apa jhoMkA khAte hoM, to usa ghar3I cha jAte haiN| rAta ko nIMda meM nahIM chute| yadi jaba taka jaga rahe haiM taba taka bolate rahe aura subaha meM uThate hI bole hoM, to bIca kA samaya usa svarUpa kahalAtA hai|

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pApa-puNya dharma kA puNya to aisA hai, dharma hara eka jagaha para madada karatA hai| cAhe jaisI muzkila meM madada karatA hai| vaisA dharma kA puNya hotA hai| puNya hailpa karatA hI hai| apanA jJAna to alaga hI prakAra kA hai| pratyakSa hAz2ira (hAjarAhajUra) jJAna hai! puNya bhI phAila hai aura pApa bhI phAila hai| puNya pramAda karavAtA hai aura pApa jAgRta rakhatA hai| puNya to ulTe yaha AiskrIma khAo, yaha phrUTa khAo, vaise saba pramAda karavAte haiN| usake badale yaha kar3avI davAI pilA do na, to jAgRta to rahe! grAhaka bhejanevAlA kauna? ye saba loga moTala calAte haiM, usameM moTala meM hai to AnevAle ko kauna bhejatA hogA? Apa moTala calAte ho na, kauna bhejatA hogA? praznakartA : mAlUma nhiiN| dAdAzrI : vahI ApakA puNya hai| bhagavAna nahIM bhejatA hai, dUsarA koI nahIM bhejatA hai| ApakA puNya bhejatA hai aura pApa kA udaya ho to sabakI moTala bharI huI hoM para ApakI nahIM bhrtii| acche se acchI banAI ho, phira bhI nahIM bhrtii| kisIko doSa diyA jAe vaisA hai? koI cIz2a aisI nahIM hai ki jo ina puNyazAliyoM ko nahIM mile, para puNya vaisI pUrI nahIM lAe haiM islie| nahIM to hara eka cIz2a jaisI cAhie vaisI mile aisA hai| para loga laukika jJAna meM par3e hue haiM aura taba taka kabhI bhI 'vastu' prApta hotI nahIM hai| eka to dimAg2a kA z2arA tez2a hotA hai, usameM phira use aisA jJAna mile ki 'badhe nAra pAMsarI'(nArI tAr3ana kI adhikArI), taba to use cAhie so milA gayA! yaha jo jJAna milA, vaha jJAna use phala degA yA nahIM degA? phira kyA hogA? jisa strI kI kokha se tIrthakara janme usa strI kI dazA to dekho. Apane kaisI kI? kitanA anyAya hai? kyoMki jisa strI kI kokha se caubIsa tIrthaMkara janme, pApa-puNya bAraha cakravartI janme, vAsudeva janme, vahA~ para bhI aisA kiyA? bhale hI Apako kar3avA anubhava huA ho| usameM strI jAti kI kisalie niMdA karate ho? Apa bAraha rupaye Daz2ana ke bhAva se Ama lekara Ate ho, para khaTTe nikalate haiM, para dUsare tIna rupaye Daz2ana ke bhAvavAle bahuta mIThe nikalate haiN| yAnI bahuta bAra vastu bhAva ke Upara AdhArita nahIM hotI, Apake puNya para AdhArita hotI hai| ApakA puNya yadi z2ora kareM, to Ama kaisA mIThA nikalatA hai, aura vaha khaTTA nikalA usameM Apake puNya kA z2ora nahIM thA, usameM kisIko doSa kaise diyA jAe? isalie yaha to puNya kaccA par3a jAtA hai, dUsarA aura kyA hai yaha? bar3A bhAI jAyadAda nahIM detA ho to kyA bar3e bhAI kA doSa hai? apanA puNya kaccA hai| usameM doSa kisIkA hai nhiiN| yaha to puNya ko to vaha sudhAratA nahIM hai aura bar3e bhAI ke sAtha nire pApa bA~dhatA hai! phira pApa ke done bharatA hai| ___ hameM makAna kI ar3acana ho aura koI manuSya madada kare aura makAna rahane ke lie de deM, to jagat ke manuSya ko usake Upara rAga ho jAtA hai aura vaha jaba makAna lenA cAhe to usa para dveSa hotA hai| yaha rAgadveSa hai, aba vAstava meM to rAga-dveSa karane kI z2arUrata nahIM hai, vaha nimitta hI hai| vaha denevAlA aura le lenevAlA, donoM nimitta haiN| Apake puNya kA udaya ho taba vaha dene ke lie milatA hai, pApa kA udaya ho taba lene ke lie milatA hai| usameM usakA koI doSa nahIM hai| Apake udaya para AdhArita hai| sAmanevAle kA kiMcit mAtra doSa nahIM hai| vaha nimitta mAtra hai| vaisA apanA jJAna kahatA hai, kaisI suMdara bAta karatA hai! ajJAnI ko to koI mIThA-mIThA bole vahA~ para rAga hotA hai aura kar3avA bole vahA~ dveSa hotA hai| sAmanevAlA mIThA bole, vaha khuda kA puNya prakAzita hai aura sAmanevAlA kar3avA bole, to vaha khuda kA pApa prakAzita hai| isalie mUla bAta meM, donoM meM sAmanevAle kA kucha lenA-denA nahIM hai| bolanevAle ko koI lenA-denA nahIM hai| sAmanevAlA manuSya to nimitta hI hai| jo yaza kA nimitta hotA hai usase yaza milA karatA hai aura apayaza

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pApa-puNya 39 kA nimitta hotA hai usase apayaza milA karatA hai| vaha to nimitta hI hai maatr| usameM kisIkA doSa nahIM hai| praznakartA : sabhI nimitta hI mAne jAe~ge na? dAdAzrI : nimitta ke sivAya isa jagat meM koI dUsarI cIz2a hai hI nhiiN| jo hai, vaha yaha nimitta hI hai| usakA AdhAra hai puNya aura pApa para praznakartA : kitane hI jhUTha boleM to bhI satya meM khapa jAtA hai aura kitane hI saca boleM to bhI jhUTha meM khapatA hai| yaha pajala (pahelI) kyA hai?! dAdAzrI : vaha unake pApa aura puNya ke AdhAra para hotA hai| unake pApa kA udaya ho to ve saca bolate haiM to bhI jhUTha meM calA jAtA hai| jaba puNya kA udaya ho taba jhUTha bole to bhI loga use saca svIkArate haiM, cAhe jaisA jhUThA kare to bhI cala jAtA hai| praznakartA : to use koI nukasAna nahIM hotA? dAdAzrI : nukasAna to hai, para agale bhava kaa| isa bhava meM to use pichale janma kA phala milaa| aura yaha jhUTha bolA na, usakA phala use agale bhava meM milegaa| abhI yaha usane bIja boyaa| bAqI, yaha koI aMdhera nagarI nahIM hai ki cAhe jaisA cala jAegA! usa kapala (daMpati) meM kauna puNyazAlI? eka bhAI mere pAsa Ae the| unhoMne mujhe kahA, 'dAdA, maiMne zAdI to kI hai para mujhe merI patnI pasaMda nahIM hai|' taba maiMne kahA, 'kyoM bhAI, nahIM pasaMda hone kA kAraNa kyA hai?' taba unhoMne kahA, 'vaha z2arA laMgar3I hai, paira se laMgar3AtI hai|' phira maiMne pUchA, 'to terI patnI ko tU pasaMda hai yA nahIM?' taba vaha kahatA hai, 'dAdA, maiM to pasaMda AU~ vaisA hI hU~ na! suMdara hU~, par3hAlikhA hU~, koI zArIrika khAmI nahIM hai mujhmeN|' taba maiMne kahA, 'to usameM pApa-puNya bhUla terI hI hai| tUne aisI to kaisI bhUla kI thI ki tujhe laMgar3I milI aura usane kitane acche puNya kie the ki tU itanA acchA use milA! are, yaha to khuda ke kie hue karma hI khuda ke sAmane Ate haiN| usameM sAmanevAle kA doSa kyA dekhatA hai? jA terI bhUla ko bhugata le aura phira naI bhUla mata krnaa|' darda meM puNya-pApa kA rola... praznakartA : manuSya ko roga hote haiM, usakA kyA kAraNa hai? dAdAzrI : vaha usane khuda ne gunAha kie haiM sAre, pApa kie haiM, usase ye roga hote haiN| praznakartA : para ina choTe-choTe baccoM ne kauna-sA gunAha kiyA thA? dAdAzrI : sabhI ne pApa kie the, usake ye roga haiM saare| pUrvabhava meM jo pApa kie hue haiM, unakA phala AyA isa smy| choTe bacce duHkha bhugatate haiM, vaha saba pApa kA phala aura zAMti aura AnaMda bhugatate haiM vaha puNya kA phl| pApa aura puNya ke phala, donoM milate haiN| puNya hai, vaha kreDiTa hai aura pApa DebiTa hai| praznakartA : hameM abhI isa bhava meM koI darda ho, roga ho jAe to vaha apane pichale bhava ke karma kA phala hai, to phira hama abhI koI bhI ilAja kareM, to vaha hameM kisa taraha sudhAratA hai, yadi vaha vyavasthita hI hai to phira? dAdAzrI : vaha davAI lete ho, vaha bhI vyavasthita ho tabhI lI jAtI hai, nahIM to lI hI nahIM jaatii| hameM mile hI nhiiN| praznakartA : aura kitane prakAra kI davAIyA~ leM. to bhI use davAI asara nahIM karatI, ThIka nahIM hotA unse| aisA bhI hotA hai na, daadaa| dAdAzrI : ulTe paise khatama ho jAte haiM aura marane kA samaya A jAtA hai| jaba ki puNya prakAzita ho taba thor3A aise hI bAtoM-bAtoM meM TamATara

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pApa-puNya kA rasa pIe to bhI roga miTa jAtA hai| isIlie puNya para AdhArita hai| ApakA puNya phala dene ke lie taiyAra ho jAe to saba aise hI phrI oNpha kaoNsTa mila jAtA hai aura pApa phala dene ke lie taiyAra ho jAe to acchI vastu ho, vaha bhI ulTI par3a jAtI hai| bImArI meM puNya se bhugatanA kama ho jAtA hai| bImArI meM pApa se bhugatanA bar3ha jAtA hai| puNya nahIM ho to pUrA hI bhugatanA par3atA hai| aba puNya ho to vaidyarAja acche mila jAte haiN| TAima A milatA hai| saba mila jAtA hai aura zAMti rahatI hai| darda DaoNkTara ne miTAyA? puNya ne miTA diyA aura pApa se khar3A huA thaa| taba dUsarA kauna miTAegA? DaoNkTara nimitta hai! praznakartA : roga honA vaha pApa kA udaya kahalAegA? dAdAzrI : taba aura kyA hai vaha? yaha roga to pApa hai aura nirogatA vaha puNya hai| AyuSya lambA acchA yA choTA? praznakartA : bahuta lambI Ayu, bahuta lambA AyuSya vaha puNya kA phala hai yA pApa kA phala hai? dAdAzrI : hA~, logoM ko gAliyA~ sunAne aura logoM kI niMdA karane ke lie yadi jIvana ho to pApa kA phala hai! khuda ke AtmA kA bhale ke lie yA dUsaroM ke bhale ke lie koI adhika jItA hai, to vaha puNya kA phala hai| puNyazAlI kA AyuSya lambA hotA hai, z2arA kama puNya ho to AyuSya TUTa jAtA hai, bIca rAste meM! aba koI manuSya bahuta pApI ho, aura AyuSya lambA ho to? use bhagavAna ne kyA kahA hai ki pApI kA AyuSya kaisA honA cAhie? hama bhagavAna se pUche ki, 'pApI kA AyuSya kitanA ho, to acchA mAnA jAegA?' taba kaheM ki, 'jitanA kama jIe utanA acchaa|' kyoMki aise pApa ke saMyogoM meM hai, isalie kama jIe to ve saMyoga badaleMge 42 pApa-puNya usake! para vaha kama jItA nahIM hai na! yaha to levala batAne ke lie hameM kahate haiM, parantu adhika jItA hai, vaha sau varSa bhI pare karatA hai aura itane sAre pApa ke done ikaTThe karatA hai ki kitane gahare jAegA vaha to vahI jAne! aura puNyazAlI vyakti adhika jIe vaha bahuta acchA hai| parabhava kI gaThariyA~ kisa kI? paradeza kI kamAI paradeza meM hI rhegii| yaha moTara-baMgale, mileM, bIvI-bacce sabhI yahIM para rakhakara jAnA pdd'egaa| isa aMtima sTezana para to kisIke bApa kA bhI cale vaisA nahIM hai na! mAtra puNya aura pApa sAtha meM le jAne deNge| dUsarI sAdI bhASA meM tujhe samajhAU~ to yahA~ jo-jo gunAha kie unakI kalameM sAtha meM aaeNgii| usa gunAha kI kamAI yahIM para raha jAegI aura vApisa kesa clegaa| kalamoM ke hisAba se naI deha prApta karake phira se naye sire se kamAI karake udhAra cukAnA pdd'egaa| isalie mue, pahale se hI sIdhA ho jA na ! 'svadeza' meM to bahuta sukha hai| para svadeza dekhA hI nahIM na! praznakartA : manuSya janma meM satkArya karane ke bAda, usake dehavilaya ke pazcAt, usa AtmA kI paristhiti kaisI hotI hai? dAdAzrI : satkArya kare to puNya ba~dhatA hai| vaha kreDiTa hotA hai, to manuSya meM acche ghara meM janma milatA hai| rAjA hotA hai yA pradhAnamaMtrI banatA hai yA usase bhI adhika satkArya kie hoM to devagati meM jAtA hai| satkArya kare vaha kreDiTa kahalAtA hai, vaha phira kreDiTa bhogane jAtA hai| aura kharAba kArya kie hoM, vaha DebiTa bhogane jAtA hai phira, do paira meM se cAra paira ho jAte haiM! yaha Apa esa. I. bane ho vaha kreDiTa ke kAraNa! aura DebiTa ho to mila meM naukarI karanI pdd'e| pUre dina mehanata kare to bhI pUrA hI nahIM hotaa| isalie yaha kreDiTa-DebiTa ke AdhAra para ye cAra gatiyA~ aura kreDiTa-DebiTa utpanna nahIM huA to mokSagati meM jAtA hai| svArtha karane se pApakarma ba~dhate haiM aura ni:svArtha karane se puNyakarma ba~dhatA hai| para donoM hI karma haiM na? puNyakarma kA phala hai vaha sone kI

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44 pApa-puNya ber3I hai aura pApakarma kA phala lohe kI ber3I hai| para donoM hI ber3iyA~ hI haiM na? pharka, svarga aura mokSa meM... praznakartA : svarga aura mokSa meM kyA pharka hai? dAdAzrI : svarga to yahA~ jo puNya karake jAte haiM na, puNya matalaba acche kAma karate haiM, zubha kAma karate haiM, yAnI ki logoM ko dAna dete haiM, kisIko duHkha nahIM hone dete, kisIkI madada karate haiM, oblAijiMga necara rakhate haiM, aise karma nahIM karate haiM loga? praznakartA : karate haiN| pApa-puNya meM bhI kar3hApA-ajaMpA aura IrSyA hote haiN| devI-devatA bhI phira to nire sukhoM se Uba jAte haiN| vaha kisa taraha? cAra dina vivAha meM roja laDDU khilAe hoM to pA~cave dina khicar3I yAda Ae vaisA hai! ve loga bhI icchA karate haiM ki kaba manuSyadeha mile aura bharatakSetra meM acche saMskArI parivAra meM janma ho aura jJAnI puruSa se bheMTa ho jaae| jJAnI puruSa mileM taba hI hala Ae vaisA hai| nahIM to caturgati kI bhaTakana to hai hii| pApa ke phala kaise? AtmA ke Upara aisI parateM haiM, AvaraNa haiM ki eka vyakti ko aMdherI koTharI meM DAlakara rakheM aura use mAtra do vakta kA khAne ko deM aura jisa duHkha kA anubhava hotA hai, vaise apAra duHkhoM kA anubhava ina per3a-paudhe Adi ekendriya se lekara pa~cendriya taka ke jIvoM ko hotA hai| ina pA~ca indriyavAle manuSyoM ko itanA du:kha hai, to jinheM kama indriya haiM unheM kitanA duHkha hogA? pA~cavI se adhika chaThavI indriyavAlA koI nahIM hai| ye per3apaudhe aura jAnavara ve tiryaca gati haiN| to unheM sakhta kaida kI sajA hai| yaha manuSya gati, vaha sAdI kaidavAlA aura narkagati meM to bhayaMkara duHkha haiM, usakA jaisA hai vaisA varNana karU~ to sunate hI manuSya mara jaae| cAvala ubAleM aura uchaleM usase lAkha gunA adhika duHkha hotA hai| eka janma meM pA~ca-pA~ca bAra maraNa kI vedanA hotI hai aura phira bhI mRtyu nahIM hotii| vahA~ para deha pAre jaisI hotI haiN| kyoMki unheM duHkha kA vedana karanA hotA hai, isalie mRtyu nahIM hotii| unake hara eka aMga chida jAte haiM aura phira jur3a jAte haiN| vedanA bhoganI hI par3atI hai| narkagati yAnI umrakaida kI sjaa| dAdAzrI : arthAt acche kAma kare to svarga meM jAtA hai aura bure kAma kare to narka meM jAtA hai| aura acche-bure kAma mizcara kare para usameM bure kAma kama kare, vaha manuSya meM AtA hai| isa taraha se cAra bhAga meM kAma karane ke phala milate rahate haiN| aura kAma karanevAlA koI bhI mokSa meM nahIM jA sktaa| mokSa ke lie to karttAbhAva nahIM rahanA caahie| AtmajJAna mile taba karttAbhAva TUTatA hai aura karttAbhAva TUTe to mokSa ho jaae| puNya ke phala kaise? puNya matalaba jamA rakama aura pApa matalaba udhAra rkm| jamA rakama jahA~ kharca karanI ho vahA~ kharca kI jA sakatI hai| devI-devatAoM ko najarakaida hotI hai para unheM bhI mokSa to nahIM miltaa| Apake ghara zAdI ho aura Apa sabakucha bhUla jAte ho, saMpUrNa moha meM tanmaya hote ho| AIskrIma khAo to jIbha khAne meM hotI hai, bainDa baje to kAna ko priya lagatA hai| A~kheM dUlherAjA ko dekha rahI hotI hai, nAka agarabattI aura senTa meM jAtI hai| ve pA~coM hI indriyA~ kAma meM laga jAtI hai| mana a~jhaTa meM hotA hai| yaha saba ho, vahA~ AtmA yAda nahIM aataa| usI prakAra devI-devatAoM ko hamezA vaisA hI hotA hai| isase aneka gunA vizeSa sukha hotA hai isalie ve bhAna meM hI nahIM hote| unheM AtmA kA khayAla hI nahIM aataa| para devagati pApa-puNya ke galana ke samaya.. pApa kA pUraNa karate haiM na, usakA jaba galana hogA taba patA calegA! taba tere chakke chUTa jaaeNge| aMgAroM ke Upara baiThe hoM, vaisA lagegA!! puNya kA pUraNa karegA taba patA calegA ki kaisA aura hI taraha kA maz2A AtA hai| isalie jisa-jisa kA pUraNa karo vaha dekha-vicArakara karanA ki galana

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- pApa-puNya pApa-puNya ho taba pariNAma kaisA AtA hai ! pUraNa karate samaya satata khayAla rakhanA ki, pApa karake kisIko dhokhA dekara paisA ikaTThA karate samaya hamezA yAda rakhanA ki vaha bhI galana honevAlA hai| vaha paisA baiMka meM rakhoge to vaha bhI jAnevAlA to hai hii| usakA bhI galana to hogA hii| aura vaha paisA ikaTThA karate samaya jo pApa kiyA, jo raudradhyAna kiyA, to Upara se usakI dafAe~ sAtha meM AnevAlI haiM aura jaba usakA galana hogA taba terI kyA dazA hogI? puNya pUrA ho vaha alaga kara de jJAnI se.... puNyAI kA svabhAva kaisA hai? kharca ho jAtA hai| karor3oM mana barpha ho para usakA svabhAva kaisA hotA hai? pighala jAe vaisaa| terA hamAre sAtha kA saMyoga puNya ke AdhAra para hai| terA puNya khatama ho jAe usameM hama kyA kareM? aura tU mAna baiThe ki yahI saMyoga mujhe cAhie, phira kyA ho? mAra khA jaaegaa| sira bhI TUTa jaaegaa| jitanA milA utanA laabh| usake AnaMda meM rahanA ki merA puNya jagA hai| tu aisA mAnatA hai ki yaha manacAhA saMyoga mila jAe? praznakartA : aisA nhiiN| dAdAzrI : taba? yaha niyamAnusAra hI hai na? yA niyama se bAhara hogA? puNya ho taba taka dAdA ke pAsa baiThane kA samaya mila jAtA hai, usa puNya kA upakAra mAnanA caahie| yaha hamezA ke lie hotA hogA kahIM? aisI AzA bhI kaise rakhI jAe? kusaMga se pApa kA praveza isa duniyA meM sabase bar3A puNyazAlI kauna hai? jise kusaMga nahIM chue| jise pApa karate hue Dara lagatA hai, vaha bar3A jJAna kahalAtA hai! kusaMga se pApa kA praveza hotA hai aura bAda meM pApa kATatA hai| use jaise hI phurasata mile taba aura koI kusaMga mila jAtA hai, taba phira kusaMga se niMdA karanA bar3ha jAtA hai aura niMdA karane se dAg2a par3a jAte haiN| ye sAre duHkha haiM ve usake hI haiN| hameM kisIke bAre meM bhI bolane kA adhikAra kyA hai? hameM apanA dekhanA hai| koI du:khI ho yA sukhI, para hameM usake sAtha kyA lenA-denA? yaha to rAjA ho to bhI usakI niMdA karate haiN| khuda ko kucha bhI lenA-denA nahIM vaisI parAI bAta ! Upara se dveSa aura IrSyA aura usake hI du:kha haiN| bhagavAna kyA kahate haiM ki vItarAga ho jaa| tU hai hI vItarAga, ye rAga-dveSa kisalie? tU nAma meM par3egA to rAga-dveSa haiM na? aura anAmI ho jAegA to vItarAga ho gayA! sadupayoga, AtmArtha ke lie hI.... aisA hai na, yaha puNya jAgA hai to khAnA-pInA saba ghara baiThe A milatA hai isalie yaha saba TI.vI. dekhanA hai, nahIM to khAne-pIne kA ThikAnA nahIM ho to pUre dina mehanata karane jAe yA TI.vI. dekhe? yAnI ki ye puNya kA durupayoga karate haiN| isa puNya kA sadupayoga to aise karanA cAhie ki yaha TAima hai vaha AtmA ke lie nikAlanA caahie| phira bhI TI.vI. nahIM hI dekhanA vaisA Agraha nahIM hai, thor3I dera dekha bhI leM, para usameM se ruci nikAla denI cAhie socakara ki yaha galata hai| paropakAra se ba~dhe puNya praznakartA : puNya kisa taraha se sudharate haiM? praznakartA : niyamAnusAra hI hai| dAdAzrI : usake bAda mAna baiTheM to kyA hogA? vaha to kabhI puNya jage taba mujhase bheMTa ho jAtI hai| phira bichaDatA hai taba patA cala jAtA hai| isalie bichar3ane kI sthiti meM anubhava kiyA ho to phira harja nahIM hai na apane ko| palAyana vRtti se kahIM karma se chUTA jA sakatA hai? maiM bar3audA meM hoU~, tU bar3audA meM ho, taba bhI karma milane nahIM deMge! yaha jJAna diyA huA hai, jisa samaya jo A milA vaha 'vyavasthita' aura usakA samabhAva se nikAla kr| basa, itanI hI bAta hai|

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pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : jo Ae use 'Ao bhAI, baittho|' aise Ava-bhagata kreN| apane pAsa cAya ho to cAya aura nahIM to jo ho vaha, parAThe kA Tukar3A ho to vaha de deN| pUche ki, 'bhAI, parAThA thoDA loge?' isa taraha prema se vyavahAra kareM to puNya ikaTThA hotA hai| parAye ke lie karanA, usakA nAma punny| ghara ke baccoM ke lie to harakoI karatA hai| praznakartA : puNya kI vRddhi ho, usake lie kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : pUrA dina logoM para upakAra hI karate rheN| ye manoyoga, vANIyoga aura dehayoga logoM ke lie kharca kare, vaha puNya kahalAtA hai| puNya-pApa, pati-patnI ke bIca meM... praznakartA : pati-patnI donoM lagabhaga pUrA samaya sAtha-sAtha hote haiM, unakA vyavahAra yAnI unake karma bhI sAtha meM ba~dhe hue hote haiM, to unake phala unheM kisa prakAra bhogane hote haiM? dAdAzrI : phala to ApakA bhAva jaisA ho vaisA Apako phala bhoganA hotA hai aura unakA bhAva ho vaisA unheM phala bhoganA hotA hai| praznakartA : aisA hotA hai ki patnI ke puNya se puruSa kA calatA hai? kahate haiM na patnI ke puNya se, yaha lakSmI hai yA ghara meM saba acchA hai, aisA hotA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : vaha to apane loga, eka koI vyakti patnI ko bahuta mAratA thA na, to use samajhAyA ki mue, yaha terI patnI kA nasIba to dekha, kisalie mAratA hai? usake puNya kA to tU khAtA hai| usake bAda bAta zurU ho gii| jIva mAtra khuda ke puNya kA hI khAtA hai| harakoI khuda ke puNya kA hI bhogatA hai| kisIko kucha lenA-denA hI nahIM hai phir| eka kiMcit bAla jitanI bhI jhaMjhaTa nahIM hai| praznakartA : aise dAna kareM, koI zabha karma kareM. udAharaNa ke rUpa meM puruSa dAna kareM, strI usameM sahamata ho, usakA sahayoga ho, to donoM ko phala milatA hai? pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : puruSa arthAt karanevAlA aura sahayoga ho arthAt kartA ke prati anumodana krnevaalaa| karanevAlA, karavAnevAlA aura kartA ke prati anumodana karanevAlA, kisIne Apase kahA ho ki yaha karanA, karane jaisA hai, to vaha karavAnevAlA kahalAtA hai, Apa karanevAle kahalAte ho aura strI Apatti nahIM uThAe to vaha kartA ke prati anumodana karanevAlI kahalAtI hai| ina sabhI ko puNya prApta hotA hai| para karanevAle ke hisse meM pacAsa pratizata aura pacAsa pratizata anumodanA karanevAle ke hisse meM, una do logoM meM baMTa jAtA hai| praznakartA : bahanajI kahatI haiM, hameM paccIsa pratizata do, to vaha nahIM clegaa| dAdAzrI : phira khuda kro| ghara ke loga to mAlika (pati) se kahate haiM ki yaha Apa ulTA-sIdhA karake paise lAo to usakA pApa Apako lagegA, hameM kucha bhoganA nahIM hai| hameM cAhie nahIM aisaa| jo kare vaha bhugate aura ghara ke loga kahate haiM ki hameM nahIM cAhie, yAnI unhoMne anumodanA nahIM kI isalie usase mukta ho ge| aura aisA karanA' kahe to hissedAra ho gayA, pArTanarazipa karanI ho to apanI marjI kI bAta hai| usameM kahIM DIDa (likhita) nahIM karanI par3atI ki sTempa nahIM lAnA pdd'taa| binA sTempa ke calatA hai| 'pyAle phUTeM to bhI puNya bA~dhA?' koI kahegA ki, 'hameM jJAna nahIM milA hai, samakita nahIM huA hai, to mujhe kyA karanA cAhie? mujhe dUsarA nukasAna nahIM uThAnA hai!' to maiM use kaha dU~ ki, 'yaha maMtra sIkha jA, ki yadi pyAle phUTa jAe~ taba bolanA ki, 'acchA huA miTA jaMjAla, aba naye pyAle laauuNgaa|' to usase puNya bNdhegaa| kyoMki ciMtA karane kI jagaha para usane AnaMda kiyA, isalie puNya bNdhegaa| itanA jarA A jAe na to bahuta ho gayA! mujhe bacapana se hI aisI samajha thI, kisI dina ciMtA hI nahIM kii| aisA kucha ho jAe to usa ghar3I aisA kucha aMdara A hI jAtA thaa| aise sikhAne se nahIM AtA thA, para turanta

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pApa-puNya hI hAjira javAba saba A hI jAtA thaa| kisIke nimitta se kisIko milatA hai? praznakartA : jisake lie kharca kiyA, usake hisse meM puNya jAtA hai na? nahIM ki karanevAloM ko| Apa jisake lie jo kArya karate ho, usakA phala use milegA? hama jisake lie jo kArya kareM, usakA puNya kareM, vaha use milegA, hameM nahIM milegA? kare use nahIM milegA? isameM sahI kyA hai? dAdAzrI : hama kareM aura dUsare ko mile? aisA sunA hai kabhI? praznakartA : usake nimitta se hama karate haiM na? dAdAzrI : usake nimitta se hama kareM na, usake nimitta se hama khAte hoM to kyA harja hai? nahIM, nhiiN| vaisA saba isameM pharka nahIM hai| yaha to banAvaTa karake logoM ko ulTe rAste para caDhAte haiM. usake nimitta se! use nahIM khAnA ho aura hama khAe~ to kyA harja hai? pUrA niyamavAlA jagat hai sArA! Apa karo to Apako hI bhugatanA pdd'egaa| dUsare kisIko lenA-denA nahIM hai| pApa-puNya sadvicAra utpanna hoN| dAdAzrI : vaha alaga cIz2a hai| para ApakI vAha-vAha huI, to mAnoM pUrNa ho gayA, kharca ho gyaa| TenDara pAsa karavAne cAhie puNya... praznakartA : ye sabhI loga lakSmI ke pIche bahuta daur3ate haiN| to usakA cArja adhika hogA na, to unheM agale janma meM lakSmI adhika milanI cAhie na? dAdAzrI : hameM lakSmI dharma ke rAste para kharca karanI cAhie. aisA cArja kiyA ho to adhika milegii| praznakartA : para aise mana se bhAva karate raheM ki majhe lakSmI mile. to agale bhava meM, aise bhAva kie vaha cArja kiyA, to use kudarata lakSmI kI pUrti nahIM karegI? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nhiiN| usase lakSmI prApta nahIM hotii| yaha lakSmI milane ke jo bhAva karate haiM na, usase lakSmI milanevAlI ho to bhI nahIM miltii| ulTe aMtarAya par3ate haiN| lakSmI yAda karane se nahIM milatI, vaha to puNya karane se milatI hai| 'cArja' matalaba puNya kA cArja kare to lakSmI milatI hai| vaha bhI lakSmI akelI nahIM miltii| puNya ke cArja meM jisakI icchA hotI hai ki mujhe lakSmI kI bahuta jarUrata hai, to use lakSmI milatI hai| koI kahegA, mujhe to sirpha dharma hI caahie| to sirpha dharma mila jAegA aura paisA nahIM bhI ho| yAnI usa puNya kA hamane phira TenDara bharA huA ho ki aisA mujhe caahie| vaha milane meM puNya kharca ho jAtA hai| koI kahegA 'mujhe baMgale cAhie, moTareM cAhie, aisA cAhie, vaisA caahie|' to puNya usameM kharca ho jaaegaa| to dharma ke lie kucha bhI nahIM rhegaa| aura koI kahegA, mujhe dharma hI caahie| moTareM nahIM caahie| mujhe to itane do kamare hoMge to bhI calegA, para dharma hI adhika caahie| to use vAha-vAha meM kharca huA puNya praznakartA : yaha batAte haiM, vaisA niyama ho to hIrAbA ke pIche Apane kharca kiyA, taba Apako puNya milegaa| dAdAzrI : mujhe kyA milegA? hameM lenA-denA nahIM hai| mujhe to kucha lenA-denA hI nahIM hai na! isameM puNya nahIM bNdhtaa| yaha to puNya bhoga liyA jAtA hai| vAha-vAha ho jAtI hai| yA phira koI kharAba kara jAe to, 'mue ko dekho na, bigAr3a diyA sabhI' kheNge| isalie yahA~ kA saba yahA~ para hI mila jAtA hai| hAIskUla banavAyA thA to yahIM para vAha-vAha ho gii| vahA~ kucha milegA nhiiN| praznakartA : skUla to baccoM ke lie banavAyA, ve loga par3he-likheM,

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pApa-puNya dharma adhika hogA aura dUsarA saba kama hogaa| arthAt hara koI apane hisAba se puNya kA TenDara bharatA hai| dAna matalaba bo kara kATo praznakartA : AtmA aura dAna kA koI saMbaMdha nahIM hai to phira yaha dAna karanA z2arUrI hai yA nahIM? dAdAzrI : dAna matalaba kyA? ki dekara lo| yaha jagat pratighoSa svarUpa hai| isalie jo Apa karoge na vaisA pratighoSa aaegaa| usake byAja ke saath| isalie Apa do aura lo| yaha pichale janma meM diyA thA, acche kAma meM paisA kharca kiyA thA, vaisA kucha kiyA thA, usakA hameM phala milA, aba vApisa aisA nahIM karegA to phira maTiyAmeTa ho jaaegaa| hama kheta meM se gehU~ to le Ae cAra sau mana, para bhAI usameM se pacAsa mana bone nahIM gae to phira? praznakartA : to ugegA nhiiN| dAdAzrI : vaisA hai yaha sb| isalie denA caahie| isakA pratighoSa hI AegA, vApisa AegA, aneka gunA hokr| pichale janma meM diyA thA isIlie to amarIkA meM AyA gayA, nahIM to amarIkA AnA AsAna hai kyA? kitane puNya kie ho taba yaha plena meM baiThane ko milatA hai, kitane hI logoM ne plena dekhA taka nahIM hai! praznakartA : jaise inDiyA meM kastUrabhAI lAlabhAI kI pIr3hI hai, to unakI do, tIna, cAra pIr3hiyoM taka paise calate rahate haiM, unake baccoM ke baccoM tk| jaba ki yahA~ amarIkA meM kaisA hai ki pIr3hI hotI hai, para bahata huA to chaha-ATha varSa meM saba khatama ho jAtA hai, yA phira paise hoM to cale jAte haiM aura nahIM hoM to paise A bhI jAte haiN| to usakA kAraNa kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, vahA~ kA jo puNya hai na, inDiyA kA puNya, vaha puNya itanA gAr3ha hotA hai ki dhote raheM, phira bhI jAtA nahIM aura pApa 52 pApa-puNya bhI itane gAr3ha hote haiM ki dhote raheM, phira bhI jAte nhiiN| isalie, vaiSNava ho yA jaina ho, para usane puNya itane maz2abUta bA~dhe hue hote haiM ki dhote raheM phira bhI jAte nhiiN| jaise kI peTalAda ke dAtAra seTha, ramaNalAla seTha kI sAta-sAta pIr3hiyoM taka sampannatA rhii| phAvar3oM se khoda-khodakara dhana diyA karate the logoM ko, phira bhI kabhI kamI nahIM pdd'ii| unhoMne puNya jabaradasta bA~dhA thA, acuuk| aura pApa bhI aise acUka bA~dhate haiM, sAtasAta pIr3hiyoM taka garIbI nahIM jaatii| atyaMta du:kha bhugatate haiM, arthAt eksesa bhI hotA hai aura mIDiyama bhI rahatA hai| yahA~ amarIkA meM to uphanatA bhI hai aura phira baiTha bhI jAtA hai aura phira uphanatA bhI hai| baiTha jAne ke bAda, phira se vApisa uphanatA hai| yahA~ dera nahIM lagatI aura vahA~ inDiyA meM to baiTha jAne ke bAda uphAna Ane meM bahuta TAima lagatA hai| isalie vahA~ to sAta-sAta pIr3hiyoM taka calatA thaa| aba sabhI puNya ghaTa gae haiN| kyoMki kyA hotA hai? kastabhAI ke yahA~ janma kauna legA? taba kaheM, aise puNyazAlI jo unake jaise hI hoM, ve hI vahA~ janma leNge| phira usake yahA~ kauna janme? vaisA hI puNyazAlI phira vahA~ janmatA hai| vaha kastUrabhAI kA puNya kAma nahIM krtaa| vaha phira dUsarA vaisA AyA ho na to phira usake punny| yAnI kahalAtI hai kastUrabhAI kI pIr3hI, aura Aja to aise puNyazAlI haiM hI kahA~? aba abhI ina pichale paccIsa varSoM meM to koI khAsa aisA nahIM hai| do naMbarI dhana kA dAna... praznakartA : do naMbara ke rupayoM kA dAna deM, to vaha nahIM calegA? dAdAzrI : do naMbara kA dAna nahIM clegaa| para phira bhI koI manuSya bhUkhoM mara rahA ho aura do naMbara kA dAna deM to use khAne ke lie calegA na! do naMbara meM kucha khAsa niyama ke anusAra parezAnI AtI hai, para aura taraha se harja nahIM hotaa| vaha dhana hoTalavAle ko deM to vaha legA yA nahIM legA? praznakartA : le legaa|

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pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha vyavahAra zurU hI ho jAtA hai| praznakartA : dharma meM do naMbara kA paisA hai, vaha kharca hotA hai abhI ke jamAne meM, to usase logoM ko puNyopArjana hotA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : avazya hotA hai na! usane tyAga kiyA na utanA! apane pAsa Ae hue kA tyAga kiyA na! para usameM hetu ke anusAra phira vaha puNya vaisA ho jAtA hai hetuvAlA! ye paise die, vaha eka hI vastu nahIM dekhI jaatii| paisoM kA tyAga kiyA vaha nirvivAda hai| bAkI paisA kahA~ se AyA, hetu kyA hai, ye sArA plasa-mAinasa hote-hote jo bAkI rahegA, vaha uskaa| usakA hetu kyA hai ki sarakAra le jAegI, usake bajAya isameM DAla do na! zAstra vAMcana, pApa kSaya karate haiM? praznakartA : sat zAstroM ke paThana se pApoM kA kSaya nahIM ho sakatA? dAdAzrI : nahIM, usase puNya z2arUra ba~dhatA hai| pApoM kA kSaya nahIM hotaa| dUsarA nayA puNya ba~dhatA hai, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| sat zAstra kA abhyAsa karate haiM usameM se svAdhyAya hotA hai, usase citta kI ekAgratA, mana kI ekAgratA bahuta suMdara ho jAtI hai| pApa dhuleM, pratikramaNa se praznakartA : pApa dhonA AtA ho to? dAdAzrI : aisA dhonA nahIM aataa| jJAnI puruSa jaba taka rAstA nahIM dikhAe~ taba taka pApa dhonA nahIM AtA hai| pApa dhonA matalaba kyA? ki pratikramaNa krnaa| atikramaNa arthAt pApa kahalAtA hai| vyavahAra se bAhara koI bhI kriyA kI vaha pApa kahalAtA hai, atikramaNa kahalAtA hai| isalie usakA pratikramaNa karanA par3atA hai| tAki phira ve sabhI pApa dhula jAe~, nahIM to pApa dhulate nhiiN| nahIM hotA kabhI pachatAvA banAvaTI dAdAzrI : isa taraha ke Apa kitane pratikramaNa karate ho? pApa-puNya praznakartA : kisIko duHkha ho jAe to turanta pachatAvA karatA huuN| dAdAzrI : pachatAvA to jo vedanA hotI hai vaha hai| pachatAvA pratikramaNa nahIM khlaataa| phira bhI vaha acchA hai| praznakartA : eka ora pApa karatA rahe aura eka ora pachatAvA karatA rhe| aise to calatA hI rhegaa| dAdAzrI : vaisA nahIM hotaa| jo vyakti pApa kare aura vaha yadi pachatAvA kare to vaha banAvaTI pachatAvA kara hI nahIM sakatA, aura saccA hI pachatAvA hotA hai| pachatAvA saccA hotA hai, isalie usake bAda eka pyAz2a kI parata nikala jAtI hai| phira bhI pyAz2a to pUrI kI pUrI hI dikhatI hai vaapis| phira vApisa dUsarI parata haTatI hai, pachatAvA kabhI bhI bekAra nahIM jAtA hai| hara eka dharma ne pachatAvA hI karanA sikhAyA hai| krizciyanoM ke vahA~ bhI pachatAvA hI karane ko kahA hai| pApoM kA prAyazcita kisa taraha? praznakartA : apane kie hue pApa bhagavAna ke maMdira meM jAkara hara ravivAra ko kabUla kara lie hoM to phira pApa mAfa ho jAe~ge na? dAdAzrI : isa taraha yadi pApa dhula jAte to koI bImAra-vImAra hotA hI nahIM na? phira to koI duHkha hotA hI nahIM na? para ye to apAra duHkha par3ate haiN| mAfI mA~gane kA artha kyA hai ki Apa mAfI mA~go to Apake pApa kA mUla jala jAtA hai| isalie phira vaha panapatA nahIM hai, para usakA phala to bhoganA hI par3egA na! praznakartA : kaI jar3eM to phira se vApisa nikalatI haiN| dAdAzrI : ThIka se jalA nahIM ho to phira se nikalatA rhegaa| bAqI, mUla cAhe jitanA jala gayA ho para phala to bhugatane hI par3ate haiN| bhagavAna ko bhI bhugatane par3e the! kRSNa bhagavAna ko bhI yahA~ (paira meM) tIra lagA thaa| usameM kucha nahIM ho sktaa| mujhe bhI bhugatanA par3atA hai! hara eka dharma meM mAfI (kSamA) kA sthAna hai| krizciyana, muslima,

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pApa-puNya hindU sabhI meM hotA hai| para alaga-alaga prakAra se hotA hai| praznakartA : pAdarI bhI kahate haiM ki hamAre pAsa kanphezana (kabUla) kara jAo to saba pApoM kA nAza ho jaaegaa| dAdAzrI : aise kanphesa karanA kyA AsAna hai? Apase kanphezana hogA kyA? vaha to aMdherI rAta meM aMdhera meM karate haiM, vaha vyakti ujAle meM muMha nahIM dikhaataa| rAta ko aMdherA hogA to kanphezana karU~gA, khegaa| aura mere pAsa to cAlIsa hajAra logoM ne, lar3akiyoM ne bhI unakA sabakucha kanphezana kiyA huA hai| eka-eka cIz2a kanphesa kI haiN| aise likhakara de diyA hai| khuleAma kanphesa kiyA, to phira pApa nAza ho hI jAe~ge na? kanphesa karanA AsAna nahIM hai| praznakartA : arthAt yaha pratikramaNa karate haiM aura vaha kanphesa, donoM eka samAna hI hue na phira? dAdAzrI : nahIM, vaha eka samAna nahIM huaa| pratikramaNa to, atikramaNa ho jAe aura phira dhote raheM aura vApisa dAg2a par3e to vApisa dhoe~, aura pApa kanphesa karanA, jAhira karanA, ve donoM cIjeM alaga haiN| praznakartA : pratikramaNa aura pazcAtApa meM pharka kyA hai? dAdAzrI : pazcAtApa binA nAma nirdeza ke hai| krizciyana ravivAra ko carca meM pazcAtApa karate haiN| jo pApa kie unakA sAmahika pazcAtApa karate haiN| aura pratikramaNa to kaisA hai ki, jisane golI mArI, jisane atikramaNa kiyA, vaha pratikramaNa kare, usI kSaNa ! 'zuTa ona sAiTa' (dekhate hI golI mAranA) use dho ddaale| vaha bhAva pratikramaNa kahalAtA hai| pachatAve se ghaTe daMDa praznakartA : pApa ko nirmUla karane ke lie to uttama mArga prAyazcita hai| yaha bahuta suMdara bAta hai, vaisA purANoM meM satpuruSoM ne kahA hai| kyA khUnI AdamI khUna karane ke bAda pachatAvA kare to use mAfI mila sakatI hai? pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : khUnI AdamI khUna karane ke bAda khuza ho to, usakA jo daMDa bAraha mahIne kA honevAlA thA, to vaha tIna varSa kA ho jAtA hai, aura khUnI AdamI khUna karane ke bAda pachatAvA kare to bAraha mahIne kA jo daMDa honevAlA hotA hai, vaha chaha mahIne kA ho jAtA hai| koI bhI galata kArya karake phira khuza hooge to vaha kArya tIna gunA phala degaa| kArya karane ke bAda pachatAvA karoge ki galata kArya kiyA, to daMDa kama ho jaaegaa| jJAnI ke jJAna se, nibaTArA karmoM se! praznakartA : kaIbAra vyavahAra meM alaga-alaga taraha ke karma karane par3ate haiM, jinheM bure karma athavA pApa karma kahate haiN| to una pApa karmoM se kaise bacA jAe? dAdAzrI : pApakarma ke sAmane use jitanA jJAna hogA, vaha jJAna hailpa kregaa| hameM yahA~ se sTezana jAnA ho, to sTezana jAne kA jJAna hameM ho to vaha hameM phuNcaaegaa| pApa karmoM se kisa taraha bacA jAe? yAnI jJAna jitanA hogA isameM, pustakoM meM jJAna yA anya kisIke pAsa jJAna hotA nahIM hai| vaha to vyAvahArika jJAna hotA hai| nizcaya jJAna sirpha jJAniyoM ke pAsa hotA hai| pustaka meM vaha nizcaya jJAna nahIM hotaa| jJAniyoM ke hRdaya meM chupA huA hotA hai| vaha nizcaya jJAna jaba hama vANI ke rUpa meM suneM taba hamArA niber3A aaegaa| nahIM to pustakoM meM vyAvahArika jJAna hotA hai, vaha bhI kaI spaSTIkaraNa de sakatA hai| usase buddhi bar3hatI hai| matijJAna bar3hatA jAtA hai| zrutajJAna se matijJAna bar3hatA hai, aura pApa se kaise chUTeM isakA niber3A matijJAna lAtA hai| bAqI, aura koI upAya hai nahIM, aura yA phira pratikramaNa kare to chuutte| para pratikramaNa kaisA honA cAhie? 'zaTa oNna sAiTa' honA caahie| doSa hote hI pratikramaNa kiyA jAe, taba nibaTArA hogaa| karo ye vidhiyA~, pApodaya ke samaya! praznakartA : pratikramaNa karane se zAyada naye pApa nahIM ba~dheMge, para purAne

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pApa-puNya pApa to bhugatane par3eMge na? dAdAzrI : pratikramaNa se naye pApa nahIM hoMge, aisA ApakA kahanA sahI hai aura purAne pApa to bhugatane hI pdd'eNge| aba vaha bhugatanA kama ho sakatA hai, isake lie maiMne phira mArga batAyA hai ki tIna maMtra sAtha meM bolanA, to bhI bhugatane kA phala halkA ho jaaegaa| kisI AdamI ke sira para Der3ha mana kA bojhA ho aura becArA aise taMga A gayA ho, para use koI cIz2a acAnaka dikha gaI aura dRSTi vahA~ gaI to vaha apanA duHkha bhUla jAegA, bojhA hai phira bhI use du:kha kama lagatA hai| aise hI ye trimaMtra haiM na, unheM bolane se vaha bojha lagegA hI nhiiN| maMtra kA sahI artha kyA hai? maMtra arthAt mana ko zAMta rakhe vh| bhagavAna kI bhakti karate hue saMsAra meM vighna nahIM Ae~, isalie bhagavAna ne tIna maMtra die haiN| (1) navakAra maMtra (2) OM namo bhagavate vAsudevAya (3) OM namaH shivaay| ye maMtra helpiMga cIz2a hai| Apa kabhI trimaMtra bole the? eka dina hI trimaMtra bole the? ve z2arA z2yAdA bolo na to phira saba halkA ho jAegA aura Apako bhaya lagatA ho vaha bhI baMda ho jaaegaa| pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : vaha to bhItara mana cokhA ho jAegA na, to patA cala jaaegaa| cehare para mastI chA jaaegii| Apako patA nahIM calegA ki dAga hI calA gayA? kyoM nahIM calegA? harja kyA hai? aura nahIM dhale to bhI hameM harja nhiiN| tU pratikramaNa kara na! tU sAbuna DAlatA raha na! pApa ko tU pahacAnatA hai kyA? sAmanevAle ko du:kha ho vaha pApa hai, kisI jIva ko, vaha phira manuSya ho, jAnavara ho yA per3a ho| binA kAma ke per3a ke patte tor3ate raheM to use bhI duHkha hotA hai, isalie vaha pApa kahalAtA hai| isalie thor3A bhI, kiMcit mAtra du:kha nahIM ho aisA honA caahie| praznakartA : para manuSya apane svabhAva ke anusAra karatA ho to bhI usameM use puNya-pApa lagatA hai? dAdAzrI : sAmanevAle ko duHkha ho to pApa lagatA hai| vaha svabhAva ke anusAra karatA hai, para use samajhanA cAhie ki mere svabhAva se sAmanevAle ko du:kha ho rahA hai| isalie mujhe usase mAfI mA~ga lenI cAhie ki merA svabhAva Ter3hA hai aura usase use duHkha huA hai, isalie mAfI mAMgatA huuN| hama pratikramaNa kareM to bahuta acchA hai| apane kapar3e sApha ho jAe~ge na? apane kapar3oM meM maila kisalie rahane deM? dAdA ne aisA rAstA dikhAyA hai, to kisalie sApha nahIM kara DAleM? praznakartA : atikramaNa kaba hotA hai, ki kucha pichale janmoM kA hisAba hogA tabhI na? dAdAzrI : hA~, tabhI hogaa| praznakartA : arthAt apane lie jaba pratikramaNa karate haiM, taba pichale sabhI janmoM ke pApoM ke lie pratikramaNa hotA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : vaha hisAba hama tor3a dete haiN| yAnI apane loga 'zUTa oNna sAiTa' pratikramaNa karate haiM, jisase apane doSa turanta hI nirmala ho jAte puNya kA udaya kyA kAma karatA hai? khuda kA manamAnI sabhI hone detA hai| pApa kA udaya kyA karatA hai? apanA nakkI kiyA huA saba ulTA kara detA hai| pApa dhula gae usakI pratIti praznakartA : hamAre pApa karmoM ke lie abhI kisa taraha dhonA cAhie? dAdAzrI : pApakarma ke to jitane dAg2a par3e haiM, utane pratikramaNa karane cAhie, ve dAg2a gAr3he hoM to bAra-bAra dhote rahanA cAhie, bAra-bAra dhote rahanA caahie| praznakartA : vaha dAg2a nikala gayA yA nahIM nikalA vaha kisa taraha patA cale? haiN|

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60 pApa-puNya se pratikramaNa krnaa| sau pratizata dhula jAe~ pApa praznakartA : arthAt mAfI mA~gane se apane pApoM kA nivAraNa ho jAtA hai kyA? dAdAzrI : usase hI pApoM kA nivAraNa ho jAtA hai aura koI dUsarA rAstA hI nahIM hai| praznakartA : to phira bAra-bAra mAfI mA~ge aura bAra-bAra pApa karate raheM? pApa-puNya khetI ke pApa dhone kI vidhi praznakartA : hama Thahare kisAna, aura tambAkU kI khetI karate haiM taba hameM Upara se hara eka paudhe kI koMpala yAnI usakI garadana tor3a hI denI par3atI hai| usakA pApa to lagegA hI na? to isa pApa kA nivAraNa kisa taraha karanA cAhie? dAdAzrI: vaha to bhItara mana meM aisA honA cAhie ki kaisA yaha dhaMdhA, kahA~ se mere hisse meM AyA? basa utanA hii| paudhe kI koMpala nikAla denA, para mana meM ye kAma kahA~ se mere hisse meM AyA, aisA pazcatApa honA caahie| aisA nahIM karanA cAhie, aisA mana meM honA cAhie, bs| praznakartA : para yaha pApa to huA hI na? / dAdAzrI : vaha to hai hii| vaha Apako nahIM dekhanA hai| hotA rahatA hai, usa pApa ko nahIM dekhanA hai| yaha nahIM honA cAhie vaisA Apako nakkI karanA caahie| nizcaya karanA caahie| yaha kAma kahA~ milA? dusarA acchA milA hotA to hama aisA nahIM krte| jaba taka yaha nahIM jAnA ho taba taka pazcAtApa nahIM hotaa| khuza hokara paudhe ko pheMka dete| hamAre kahe anusAra karanA n| phira ApakI sArI jimmedArI hmaarii| paudhe ko pheMka do usameM harja nahIM hai, pazcAtApa honA cAhie ki yaha kahA~ se AyA mere hisse meN| praznakartA : kapAsa meM davAI chir3akanI par3atI hai, to kyA kareM? usameM hiMsA to hotI hI hai na? dAdAzrI : bAra-bAra mAfI mA~gane kI chUTa hai| bAra-bAra mAfI mA~ganI pdd'egii| hA~, sau pratizata chUTane kA rAstA yahI hai ! mAfI mA~gane ke alAvA aura kisI rAste chUTa hI nahIM sakate isa jagat meM se| pratikramaNa se sabhI pApa dhula jAte haiN| praznakartA : pratikramaNa karane se pApa nAza hote haiM, usake pIche sAinsa kyA hai? dAdAzrI : atikramaNa se pApa hote haiM aura pratikramaNa se pApoM kA nAza hotA hai| vApisa lauTane se pApoM kA nAza hotA hai| praznakartA : to phira karma kA niyama kahA~ lAgU hotA hai? hama mAfI mA~ge aura karma se chUTa jAe~ to phira usameM karma kA niyama nahIM rahA na? dAdAzrI : yahI karma kA niyama hai! mAfI mA~ganI vahI karma kA niyama hai!! praznakartA : taba to sabhI pApa karate jAe~ aura mAfI mA~gate jaaeN| dAdAzrI : hA~, pApa karate jAnA aura mAfI mA~gate jAnA hai, yahI bhagavAna ne kahA hai| praznakartA : parantu sacce mana se mAfI mA~ganI hai na? dAdAzrI : anivArya rUpa se jo-jo kArya karane par3eM, vaha pratikramaNa karane kI zarta para karane caahie| Apako isa saMsAra vyavahAra meM kaise calanA hai, vaha nahIM AtA hai| vaha hama Apako sikhAe~ge, tAki naye pApa nahIM bNdhe| khetIbAr3I meM jIva-jaMtu marate haiM, usakA doSa to lagegA hI na? isalie khetIbAr3IvAloM ko hararoz2a pA~ca-dasa minaTa bhagavAna se prArthanA karanI cAhie ki yaha doSa hue usakI mAfI mA~gatA huuN| kisAna ho use kahate haiM ki tU yaha dhaMdhA karatA hai, usameM jIva marate haiN| usakA isa taraha

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pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : mAfI mA~ganevAlA sacce mana se hI mAfI mA~gatA hai aura khoTe mana se mAfI mA~gegA to bhI calA leNge| taba bhI mAfI maaNgnaa| praznakartA : taba to phira use Adata par3a jAegI? dAdAzrI: Adata par3a jAe to bhale par3a jAe para mAfI maaNgnaa| mAfI mA~ge binA to bana AyA smjho| mAfI kA artha kyA hai? use pratikramaNa kahA jAtA hai aura doSo ko kyA kahA jAtA hai? atikrmnn| 62 pApa-puNya aisI bAta ke lie pazcAtApa krnaa| kyA kahate haiM? pasaMda Ae usake lie nhiiN| yAnI prAyazcita karanA pdd'egaa| tU karatA hai? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : dAdA bhagavAna ke nAma se pratikramaNa karatA hai yA nahIM karatA? praznakartA : vaha kitAba dI hai na? usameM kahe anusAra karatA huuN| nau kalameM karatA huuN| dAdAzrI: karatA hai na? vaha pratikramaNa hI hai| sabase bar3A pratikramaNa, dAdA bhagavAna kI nau kalameM rakhI gaI haiM na, ve pare jagat ke lie kalyANakArI pratikramaNa haiN| praznakartA : yaha bAta saca hai ki pazcAtApa ke ghar3e meM cAhe jaisA pApa ho to bhI.... dAdAzrI : halkA ho jAtA hai, pazcAtApa ke kaarnn| karma kA niyama kyA hai? atikramaNa kareM to usakA pratikramaNa kro| samajha meM AyA Apako? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI: isalie mAfI avazya maaNgo| aura ye akkalamaMda. jarUrata se jyAdA akkalamaMda kI bAta jAne do! koI galata karatA ho aura mAfI mA~gatA ho to mA~gane do na! 'disa iz2a kampalITa laoN' (yaha pUrNa kAnUna praznakartA : pUrNa rUpa se jalakara khAqa nahIM ho jAte? pazcAtApa kA sarvazreSTha sAbuna praznakartA : pApa dUra karane ke lie prAyazcita ke sivAya dUsarA koI upAya hai kyA? dAdAzrI: pUrNatayA jala bhI jAte haiN| aise kitane hI pApa to jala bhI jAte haiM, khatama ho jAte haiN| pazcAtApa kA sAbuna aisA hai ki bahutere kapar3oM para kAma karatA hai| dAdAzrI : pApa dUra karane ke lie prAyazcita ke sivAya dUsarA koI upAya nahIM hai| ye sAre pApa, ve kyA hai? ye pApa jo hai na. vaha kise pApa kahate haiM hama? taba kaheM ki, jo Apa yaha saba karate ho, vaha karane meM harja nahIM hai| ye sabhI baiThe haiN| abhI kisIko harja nahIM hai| usameM koI eka vyakti kahe ki, 'kyoM Apa dera se Ae ho?' hameM aisA kahe, taba usane atikramaNa kiyA, aisA kahA jaaegaa| jo logoM ko pasaMda nahIM Ae ki aisA kyoM bolatA hai? vaha atikramaNa kiyA kahalAtA hai| vaha atikramaNa karatA hai, isIlie hI bhagavAna ne pratikramaNa karane ko kahA hai| arthAt pazcAtApa kitane kA karanA hai? ki jisase logoM ko duHkha ho, praznakartA : aura usameM ApakI sAkSI meM kareM, isalie phira kyA bAkI rahA? dAdAzrI : kalyANa ho jaae| isalie pazcAtApa ke sAbuna ke samAna duniyA meM aura koI sAbuna nahIM hai| nahIM hai nivRtti pApa-puNya se... praznakartA : sabhI sAmAnya manuSya jAnate haiM ki pApa kyA hai aura puNya kyA hai, phira bhI unameM se nivRtta kyoM nahIM ho sakate?

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pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : hA~, yahI prazna duryodhana ne kRSNa bhagavAna se kiyA thA ki pApa ko jAnatA hU~ aura puNya ko bhI jAnatA hU~ arthAt adharma ko jAnatA hU~ aura dharma ko bhI jAnatA hU~, parantu adharma se nivRtti hotI nahIM aura dharma meM pravRtti hotI nhiiN| praznakartA : vaha kisalie nahIM hotI? dAdAzrI : usane usa adharma ko jAnA hI nahIM hai| pahale jAnanA cAhie ki, 'maiM kauna hU~?' yaha saba kisalie hai? kisalie yaha bhAI mujha para phana phailAtA hai, aura mujhe dUsarA bhAI kyoM nahIM milA? ye roz2a gAliyA~ sunAtA rahe, aisA bhAI kyoM milA? use to bahuta acchA bhAI milA hai, ina sabake pIche kAraNa kyA hai? vaha saba samajhanA nahIM par3egA? pApa-puNya to majadUra hI kamAte ! yaha to ApakA puNya kamAtA hai aura khuda ahaMkAra lete ho, 'maiMne kamAyA, maiMne kmaayaa|' vaha dasa lAkha kamAe taba taka aise sInA tAnakara ghUmatA phiratA hai aura pA~ca lAkha kA nukasAna huA, taba hama pUche, 'seTha kyoM aisA?' taba kahegA, 'bhagavAna ruThe haiN|' dekho use koI milA bhI nahIM phira / dUsarA koI milatA nhiiN| bhagavAna becAre ke sira para DAlatA hai| ApakA manacAhA (dhAraNA ke anusAra) hI ho, vaha puNya kA phala hai aura usase ulTA ho, vaha saba pApa kA phala hai| isa jagat meM khada kI dhAraNA cale vaisI hai hI nahIM isa jagat meN| apanI dhAraNA ke anusAra phala Ae to vaha puNya kA prArabdha hai, dhAraNA ke anusAra nahIM Ae to pApa kA prArabdha hai| ahaMkAra se ba~dhe puNya-pApa praznakartA : yadi mujhe ahaMkAra bhI nahIM ho aura mamatA bhI nahIM ho, yA phira donoM meM se eka vastu nahIM ho to maiM kauna-sA karma karU~? praznakartA : vaha kisa taraha samajhanA cAhie? dAdAzrI : ve pUrvajanma ke apane karmoM ke hisAba haiM, kisI bhagavAna ne isameM hAtha nahIM DAlA hai| yaha to hara eka ke karmoM ke hisAba se sAre phAyade-nukasAna hai| usameM ahaMkAra karatA hai, isalie nire pApa-puNya ba~dhate haiN| unheM phira se bhogane ke lie jAnA par3atA hai| isalie ina gatiyoM meM bhaTakanA par3atA hai| jela haiM sbhii| vaha jela bhogakara A jAtA hai aura vApisa thA vaisA kA vaisA hii| phira vApisa ahaMkAra nahIM kare to chuTakArA hogaa| isalie mokSa meM jAnA ho to chuTAkAra pA lo| usameM 'maiM kauna hU~' kI khoja kare aura use jAne to chuTakArA ho| naphA-nukasAna kA AdhAra? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra hai to pApa-puNya hote haiN| ahaMkAra gayA matalaba pApa-puNya gae aura ahaMkAra loga kama karate haiM na, usakA phala bhautika sukha milatA hai| ahaMkAra kama kiyA, usase karma bNdhaa| usakA phala bhautika sukha milatA hai| ahaMkAra adhika kiyA usakA karma baMdhA, usase bhautika du:kha Ate haiN| ahaMkAra kama karane se kahIM ahaMkAra jAtA nahIM hai, para vaha bhautika sukha denevAlA hai| jahA~ jJAnI ho to hI ahaMkAra jAtA hai, nahIM to ahaMkAra jAtA nahIM hai| kucha hada taka hI ahaMkAra kama ho sakatA hai, use saMsAra meM ar3acana nahIM pdd'tii| mahAvIra bhagavAna kI AjJA meM rahe, to kucha hada taka ahaMkAra jarUra kama ho sakatA hai para normala rahatA hai| normala ahaMkAra rahe taba saMsAra meM kleza nahIM hotaa| ghara meM thor3A bhI kleza yA aMtarakleza nahIM hotaa| vaisA abhI bhI apane kramika mArga meM hai| itanA bhI vaha kisIko hI hogaa| thor3e logoM ko kleza nahIM hotA, aMtarakleza nahIM hotaa| para vaha ahaMkAra bhI, mokSa prApta karane ke lie nikAlanA pdd'egaa| pA~ca indriyoM ke dvArA jo-jo anubhava meM AtA hai vaha sArA hI 'DiscArja' hai| yaha to puNya ke AdhAra para khuda kI dhAraNA ke anusAra hotA hai taba ahaMkAra karatA hai ki 'maiMne kiyA' aura phira jaba pApa kA udaya hotA hai aura nukasAna hotA hai, taba 'bhagavAna ne kiyA' kahate haiM! nahIM to kahate haiM ki mere graha kharAba haiM !!! aura kamAI, vaha to sahaja kamAI hai| koI manuSya kamA nahIM sakatA hai| yadi mehanata se kamAyA jA sakatA

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya 65 aura vaha ahaMkAra jAe aura 'maiM' jo hU~ vaha riyalAiz2a (bhAna) ho to ho cukA, phira karma nahIM bNdhege| phira jaja ho to bhI karma nahIM bNdhege| dAnezvarI ho to bhI karma nahIM bNdhege| sAdhu ho to bhI karma nahIM baMdhege aura kasAI ho to bhI karma nahIM bNdhege| kyA kahA maiMne? kyoM cauMka gae? kasAI kahA isalie? kasAI se pUcho na to vaha kahegA, sAhaba mere bApa-dAdA se calA AyA vyApAra hai! praznakartA : ahaMkAra karatA hai, tabhI puNya zabda kA prayoga hotA hai aura ahaMkAra karatA hai, tabhI pApa zabda kA prayoga hotA hai| dAdAzrI : vaha ThIka hai| ahaMkAra karatA ho to hI pApa-puNya zabda kA prayoga hotA hai| para ahaMkAra ise thor3A badala detA hai, dUsarA kucha lambA isameM pharka nahIM laataa| vaha to ho cukI hai vaha cIz2a hai| vaha iTa hepansa hai aura nayA vApisa ho rahA hai| naI philma bana rahI hai aura yaha purAnI philma to khula rahI hai| hai to kauna-sI yoni meM apanA janma hotA hai? dAdAzrI : janma aura pApa-puNya ko lenA-denA nahIM hai| janma hone ke bAda pApa-puNya use phala dete haiN| yoni kisa AdhAra para milatI hai? ki 'maiM caMdabhAI hI hU~ aura yaha maiMne kiyA aisA bole na, usake sAtha hI yoni meM bIja pdd'aa| aba karttApana kyoM hai? taba kahe, 'karatA hai koI aura, parazakti kArya kara rahI hai aura khuda aisA mAnatA hai ki maiM karatA huuN|' parazakti kA pratyakSa pramANa kyA hai? taba kahe, 'isa jagat meM koI aisA janmA nahIM hai ki jise saMDAsa jAne kI svataMtra zakti ho| vaha to parazakti karavAtI hai taba hotA jaba taka ahaMkAra hai taba taka nayA citraNa kie binA rahatA hI nahIM na! hama cAhe jitanA samajhAe~ para nayA citraNa kie binA rahatA hI nahIM n| ahaMkAra kyA nahIM karatA? ahaMkAra se hI yaha saba khar3A huA hai| yadi ahaMkAra vilaya ho jAe to mukti hai| saMbaMdha, puNya aura AtmA kA... praznakartA : AtmA kA puNya se koI saMbaMdha hai? dAdAzrI : koI saMbaMdha nahIM hai| para jaba taka bilIfa aisI hai ki 'yaha maiM kara rahA hU~', taba taka saMbaMdha hai| jahA~ 'maiM nahIM karatA hU~' vaha rAiTa bilIfa baiTha jAe usake bAda phira AtmA kA aura puNya kA koI saMbaMdha nahIM hai| maiM dAna karatA hU~' 'maiM corI karatA ha~' donoM hI igoijama hai| jahA~ kucha bhI kiyA jAtA hai, vahA~ puNya ba~dhatA hai yA pApa ba~dhatA hai| ajJAnatA meM bA~dhe puNya-pApa, karma praznakartA : pApa se athavA puNya se yA phira donoM kA mizraNa hotA aba yaha parazakti kaise utpanna ho gaI? taba kahate haiM, hara eka jIva ajJAnatA meM puNya aura pApa do hI kara sakatA hai, vaha jo pApa-puNya karatA hai, usake phala svarUpa karma ke udaya Ate haiN| una udaya se phira karma lipaTate haiN| aba puNya-pApa ba~dhane kA mala kAraNa kyA hai? vaha nahIM ba~dhe aisA koI upAya hai kyA?' taba kahate haiM, 'kartApana nahIM ho taba puNyapApa nahIM bNdhte|''krttaapn kisa taraha se nahIM hogA?' taba kahate haiM. "jaba taka ajJAna hai, taba taka 'maiM karatA hU~' vaha bhAna hai| aba vAstava meM 'kauna kara rahA hai?' vaha jAne to karttApana nahIM hogaa|" puNya-pApa kI jo yojanA hai, vaha yaha saba karatI hai aura hama mAnate haiM, 'maiMne kiyaa'| phAyadA to hameM vahI karavAtA hai| puNya ke AdhAra para phAyadA hotA hai, taba hama samajhate haiM ki 'ohoho! maiMne kmaayaa|' aura jaba pApa ke adhIna hotA hai, taba nukasAna hotA hai, taba patA calatA hai ki yaha to mere adhIna nahIM hai| para vApisa dUsarI bAra khuda ke puNya ke adhIna ho na taba bhUla jAtA hai| isalie phira se karttA bana jAtA hai| ina pA~ca indriyoM se jo kucha kiyA jAtA hai, pA~ca indriyoM se jo kucha anubhava meM AtA hai, yaha jagat jo cala rahA hai vaha sArI hI parasattA hai, aura usameM ye loga kahate haiM ki 'yaha maiMne kiyaa| vaha karma kA kartA

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pApa-puNya pApa-puNya huA, vahI adhikaraNa kriyA hai| isalie phira bhoktA honA par3atA hai| aba karttApana kaise miTe? taba kahate haiM, jaba taka Aropita bhAva hai taba taka karttApana miTegA hI nhiiN| khada khada ke mala svarUpa meM A jAe to karttApana mittegaa| vaha mUla svarUpa kaisA hai? taba kahe, 'kriyAkArI nahIM hai| vaha khuda kriyAkArI hI nahIM hai isalie vaha kartA hogA hI nahIM na!' para yaha to ajJAnatA se pakar3a baiThA hai ki 'yaha maiM hI kara rahA huuN'| aisI use besudhI rahatI hai aura vahI Aropita bhAva hai| ___aMta meM to pare honA hai pApa-puNya se... puNya, vaha kriyA kA phala hai, pApa bhI kriyA kA phala hai aura mokSa 'akriyatA' kA phala hai! jahA~ koI bhI kriyA hai, vahA~ baMdha (karmabaMdha) hai| vaha phira puNya kA ho yA pApa kA, para baMdha hai! aura 'jAne' vaha mukti hai| 'vijJAna' jAnane se mukti hai| yaha saba jo-jo tyAgoge, usakA phala bhoganA pdd'egaa| tyAga karanA apane hAtha kI sattA hai? grahaNa karanA apanI sattA hai? vaha sattA to puNya-pApa ke adhIna hai| bhItara preraka kauna hai? bhItara se jo patA calatA hai, inphormezana (sUcanA) milatI haiM, vaha puNya-pApa batAtI haiN| bhItara sArA hI jJAna-darzana hai| bhItara se sabhI khabara milatI hai| para vaha kaba taka milatI hai ki jaba taka Apa roko nhiiN| usakA ullaMghana karo to inphormezana AnI baMda ho jaaegii| 'jJAnI' nimitta, AtmaprApti ke praznakartA : AtmA ko pahacAnane ke lie nimitta kI z2arUrata hai kyA? dAdAzrI : nimitta ke binA to kucha bhI nahIM hotaa| praznakartA : nimitta puNya se milatA hai yA puruSArtha se? dAdAzrI : puNya se| bAqI, puruSArtha kare na, isa upAzraya se usa upAzraya daur3atA phire, aise anaMta janmoM taka bhaTakatA rahe to bhI nimitta prApta nahIM hogA aura apanA puNya ho to rAste meM mila jaaeNge| usake lie puNyAnubaMdhI puNya caahie| praznakartA : 'jJAnI puruSa' kauna-se puNya ke AdhAra para milate haiM? dAdAzrI : puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ke AdhAra para! yaha eka hI sAdhana hai ki jisake kAraNa majhase bheMTa hogii| koTi janmoM kI puNya jAge, taba yaha jJAnI puruSa kA yoga prApta hotA hai| puNya rUpI sAtha mokSa kA... praznakartA : puNya ke bhAva AtmArtha ke lie hitakArI haiM kyA? dAdAzrI : ve AtmA ke lie hitakara isalie haiM ki ve puNya ho na, to yahA~ satsaMga meM jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa AyA jAtA hai na! nahIM to ina majadUroM ke pApa haiM, isalie usa becAre se yahA~ AyA kaise jAe? sAre dina mehanata kare, taba to zAma ko khAne ke paise milate haiN| isa puNya ke AdhAra para to Apako ghara baiThe khAne ko milatA hai aura thor3A-bahuta avakAza milatA hai| isalie puNya to AtmArtha ke lie hitakArI hai| puNya ho to phurasata milatI hai| hameM aise saMyoga mila jAte haiM, thor3I mehanata se paisA milatA hai aura puNya ho to dUsare puNyazAlI loga mila jAte haiM, nahIM to nAlAyaka milate haiN| praznakartA : AtmA ke lie vaha adhika hitakArI hai kyA? AtmA paramAtmA svarUpa hai| vaha galata bhI nahIM sujhAtA aura sahI bhI nahIM sujhAtA hai| vaha to pApa kA udaya Ae taba galata sajhatA hai aura puNya kA udaya Ane para sahI dikhAtA hai| isameM AtmA kucha bhI nahIM karatA hai| vaha to mAtra spaMdanoM ko dekhA hI karatA hai ! ekAgratA to aMdara se apane karma ke udaya sAtha deM taba hotI hai| udaya sAtha nahIM deM to nahIM hotaa| puNya kA udaya ho to ekAgratA hotI hai, pApa kA udaya ho to ekAgratA nahIM hotii|

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70 pApa-puNya dAdAzrI : adhika hitakArI nahIM hai, para vaha z2arUrata to hai na? kisI samaya eksepzanala (apavAda) kesa meM pApa ho to bahuta hitakArI ho jAtA hai, parantu puNyAnubaMdhI pApa honA caahie| puNyAnabaMdhI pApa ho na, to adhika hitakArI ho jAtA hai| pApa-puNya, donoM bhA~ti? praznakartA : puNyazAlI ho use sabhI 'Aau, baiTho' kareM, to usase usakA aham nahIM bar3hegA? dAdAzrI : aisA hai na, ki yaha bAta jinheM jJAna hai unake lie nahIM hai| yaha to saMsArI bAta hai, jisake pAsa 'jJAna' hai use to puNya bhI nahIM rahA aura pApa bhI nahIM rahA! use to donoM kA 'nikAla' hI karanA zeSa rhaa| kyoMki puNya aura pApa donoM bhrAMti haiN| para jagat ne use bahuta qImatI mAnA hai! isalie yaha to jagat kI bAta karate haiN| para isa jagat meM loga binA kAma ke chaTapaTA rahe haiN| bahuta puNya, bar3hAe ahaMkAra... aisA hai na, yaha kaliyuga hai, usameM jo icchAe~ hoM aura unakI prApti ho jAe to usakA ahaMkAra bar3ha jAtA hai aura phira gAr3I ulTI calatI hai| isa kaliyuga meM hamezA use Thokara lage na to acchA hai| arthAt hara eka yuga meM yaha vAkya alaga-alaga prakAra se hotA hai| isalie isa yuga kA anusaraNa karake isa taraha kaha sakate haiN| abhI to icchA ke anusAra mila jAe to usakA ahaMkAra bar3ha jAe, milatA hai saba puNya ke hisAba se aura bar3hatA kyA hai? ahaMkAra, 'maiM hN'| isalie ye jitanI icchAe~ hotI haiM, unake anusAra nahIM ho, taba usakA ahaMkAra ThikAne rahatA hai aura bAta ko samajhane lagatA hai| Thokara lage taba samajha meM AtA hai, nahIM to samajha meM hI nahIM AtA na! icchA ho aura mila jAe, usase to ye loga U~ce car3ha gae haiN| icchA ke anusAra milA, isalie yaha dazA huI hai becAroM kii| jo puNya the ve to kharca ho gae aura ulTe pha~sAva meM A gae aura ahaMkAra gAr3ha ho gayA! ahaMkAra bar3hate dera nahIM lgtii| phala kauna detA hai? puNya pApa-puNya detA hai aura mana meM kyA samajhatA hai ki 'maiM hI karatA huuN|' isalie ahaMkArI ko to mAra par3e vahI acchaa| icchA huI aura turanta mila gayA ki phira ghara meM paira to U~cA hI rakhatA hai| bApa ko bhI kucha nahIM mAnatA aura kisIko bhI kucha nahIM smjhtaa| isalie icchA huI aura mile to samajhanA ki adhogati meM jAnevAlA hai, usakA dimAg2a bar3hate-bar3hate cakrama ho jAtA hai| thor3e-bahutoM ko abhI icchA ke anusAra milA hai, vaha to abhI lAkhoM ke phleTa meM rahate haiM aura una sabhI kI jAnavara jaisI dazA ho gaI hai| phleTa hogA lAkhoM kA, para vaha usake lie hitakArI nahIM hai, para yaha to una para dayA rakhane jaisI sthiti hai| puNya se bhI bar3he saMsAra... praznakartA : puNya ke baMdhana se saMsAra to bar3hatA hai, vaisA bhAvArtha huA na? dAdAzrI : puNya aise hitakArI nahIM hai| puNya to eka prakAra se hailpa karatA hai| pApa ho, to jJAnI puruSa mileM hI nhiiN| jJAnI paruSa ko milanA ho, para pUrA dina mila meM naukarI kara rahA ho to kisa taraha mile? isalie isa taraha puNya hailpa karatA hai| aura vaha bhI puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ho vahI hailpa karatA hai| praznakartA : jisa taraha pApa se saMsAra bar3hatA hai, usI taraha puNya se bhI saMsAra bar3hatA hai na? dAdAzrI : puNya se bhI saMsAra to bar3hatA hai, para yahA~ se jo mokSa meM gae haiM na, ve jabaradasta puNyazAlI the| unake AsapAsa yadi rAniyA~ dekhane jAe~ to do sau-pA~ca sau to rAniyA~ hotI thI aura rAjya to bahuta bar3A hotA thaa| khuda ko patA bhI nahIM hotA thA ki kaba sUryanArAyaNa uge aura kaba asta ho gae, puNyazAlI to aise vaibhava meM janme hote haiM ! rAniyA~ bahata sArI hotI thiiN| vaibhava ho to bhI ve Uba jAte the ki isa saMsAra meM kyA sakha hai? pA~ca sau rAniyoM meM se pacAsa rAniyA~ una para khuza hotI thIM, bAqI kI mu~ha car3hAkara phiratI rahatI thii| kitanI to rAjA ko maravAne phiratI

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pApa-puNya 72 pApa-puNya thii| arthAt yaha jagat to mahAmuzkilavAlA hai| isameM se pAra nikalanA to bahuta muzkila hai| jJAnI puruSa mileM to sirpha ve hI chuTakArA dilavA sakate haiM, bAqI koI chuTakArA nahIM dilavA sktaa| jJAnI puruSa baMdhana mukta ho gae haiM, isalie hameM mukti dilavA sakate haiN| ve taraNatAraNa hue haiM, isalie ve chur3avA sakate haiN| hat puNyazAlI, nahIM pAte jJAnI ko praznakartA : hama bahuta logoM ko samajhAte haiM ki 'dAdA' ke pAsa Ao, para ve nahIM Ate haiN| dAdAzrI : para AnA AsAna nahIM hai| vaha to bahuta puNya caahie| jabaradasta puNya hoM taba mila pAtA hai| puNya ke binA mile kahA~ se? Apane kitane puNya kie the, taba mujhe mile ho| arthAt puNya kaccA par3a jAtA hai ki jisa kAraNa se ve abhI taka mila nahIM sakate haiN| praznakartA : logoM ke puNya kaba jAgeMge? nimitta to utkRSTa haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, para puNya jAganA itanI AsAna bAta nahIM hai n| puNyazAlI hoMge, unakA puNya jAge bagaira rahanevAlA nahIM hai| abhI bhI jo puNyazAlI hoMge, unakA jagegA hii| __ akrama mArga kI laoNTarI ke vijetA... jaba ina puNyAnubaMdhI puNyazAliyoM ke lie aisA mArga nikalatA hai na! pratyakSa ke binA kucha bhI nahIM ho paataa| 'vItarAga vijJAna' pratyakSa ke binA kAma meM Ae vaisA nahIM hai aura yaha to 'akrama vijJAna' usameM to keza DipArTamenTa (rokar3a khAtA), keza baiMka (rokar3a baiMka) aura kramika meM to tyAga karate haiM, parantu keza phala nahIM AtA aura yaha to keza phala! aisA jJAna yaha sAr3he tIna araba kI janasaMkhyA meM kise nahIM cAhie? sabhI ko caahie| para yaha jJAna sabhI ke lie nahIM hai| yaha to mahApuNyazAliyoM ke lie hai| yaha 'akrama jJAna' prakaTa huA hai, usameM logoM ke kucha puNya hoMge na! sirpha eka bhagavAna ke Upara AsarA rakhanevAle ghUmate, bhaTakanevAle, bhaktoM ke lie aura jinake puNya hoMge na unake lie 'yaha' mArga nikalA hai| yaha to bahuta puNyazAliyoM ke lie hai aura yahA~ sahaja hI A jAe~ aura saccI bhAvanA se mA~ge unheM de dete haiN| para logoM ko isake lie kucha kahane jAnA nahIM hotA hai| ina 'dAdA' kI aura unake mahAtmAoM kI havA se hI jagat kA kalyANa ho jaaegaa| maiM nimitta ha~, kartA nhiiN| yahA~ jise bhAvanA huI aura 'dAdA' ke darzana kie to ve darzana TheTha taka pahu~cate haiN| 'dAdA' ve isa deha ke nikaTa ke par3osI kI taraha rahate haiM aura ye bola rahe haiM vaha rikaoNrDa hai| yaha 'akrama jJAna' to kucha hI bahuta puNyazAlI hoMge, unake lie hai, yahA~ to jo 'sahaja' hI A jAe aura usakA puNya kA pAsaporTa le Ae, use hama jJAna de dete haiN| 'dAdA' kI kRpA prApta kara gayA, usakA kAma ho gayA! yahA~ Ae hue loga saba puNya kitane acche lekara Ae haiM ! 'dAdA' kI liphTa meM baiThakara mokSa meM jAnA hai| koTi janmoM kI puNya jamA ho, taba to 'dAdA' milate haiM! aura phira cAhe kaisA bhI Diprezana (hatAzA) hogA vaha calA jaaegaa| hara prakAra se pha~se huoM ke lie 'yaha' sthAna hai| apane yahA~ to kronika (purAne) roga miTa gae haiN| vizva meM araboMpati kitane? eka mahArAja kahIM Ae the, vahA~ lAkhoM loga ikaTThe hue the| jaba ki apane yahA~ to do sau-tIna sau loga ikaTThe hue| saMbhava ho taba taka aMtima sTezana kA TikaTa kauna legA? vaise loga kama hote haiM aura bIca ke sTezana kA TikaTa to sabhI lete haiN| isalie eka vyakti mujhe kahatA hai ki, 'aisA kyoM?' taba maiMne kahA, 'pUrI duniyA meM arabapatiyoM ke nAma ginane jAe~ to kitane hoMge?' taba kahA, 've to bahuta thor3e hoNge|' maiMne kahA, 'aura sAmAnya loga?' taba bole, 've to bahata sAre hoNge|' taba ye jo dharma meM mahApuNyazAlI hoMge, ve hameM mileMge. aura paise ke paNyazAlI hoMge ve to arabapati hoMge aura arabapati se bhI adhika U~cA puNya hai yaha to! vaise to bahuta kama hote haiN|

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73 pApa-puNya puNyAnubaMdhI puNya 'jJAnI puruSa' se bheMTa karavA detA hai! aba vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kise kahA jAtA hai? ki jinheM 'dAdA bhagavAna' mila jaaeN| karor3oM janmoM taka nahIM mileM vaise 'dAdA', ve basa eka ghaMTe meM hameM mokSa de dete haiN| mokSa kA sukha cakhAte haiM, anubhUti karavA dete haiM, kabhI hI ve dAdA bhagavAna milate haiM, mujhe bhI mila gae aura Apako bhI mila gae, dekho na! praznakartA : hama kahA~ kucha kamAkara lAe haiM? yaha to ApakI kRpA dAdAzrI : puNya arthAt kyA ki Apa mujhe mila gae, vaha Apake pAsa koI hisAba thA usa AdhAra para! nahIM to mujhe milanA, vaha bahuta muzkila hai| isalie milanA vaha ApakA puNya hai eka prakAra kA, aura milane ke bAda Ae~, Tike raheM, to bahuta U~cI bAta hai| puNya ke sAtha cAhie kaSAya maMdatA praznakartA : samakita ke lie prayatna z2arUrI nahIM haiM? dAdAzrI : nahIM, prayatna to apane Apa, sahaja prayatna honA caahie| yaha to kheta jotate haiM ye loga! arthAt AnevAle bhava meM phala lene ke lie| samakita meM phalarahitavAlA honA caahie| yaha to japa-tapa Adi jo-jo karate haiM na, usakA puNya ba~dhatA hai aura usakA phala milatA hai| praznakartA : usakA jo bhI phala mile to vaha samakita ke rUpa meM hI milanA cAhie na? dAdAzrI : nahIM, nhiiN| samakita aura isakA lenA-denA nahIM hai| ve sAre phala bhautika milate haiN| devagati milatI hai, samakita to alaga hI cIz2a hai| ve tIna niyama puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ke samakita prApti ke lie puNyAnubaMdhI puNya caahie| moha hai vaha TUTanA cAhie, krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha ghaTane caahie| to vaha samakita kI ora pApa-puNya jaaegaa| nahIM to phira samakita hogA hI kisa taraha? ina logoM kI to krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha bar3heM vaisI kriyAe~ haiM saarii| praznakartA : krodha-mAna-mAyA-lobha kaise kama hote haiM aura puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kaise ba~dhate haiM? dAdAzrI : hameM sirpha mokSa jAne kI icchA honI cAhie aura usa icchArtha jo-jo kiyA jAe, vaha kriyA puNyAnubaMdhI puNya bA~dhatI hai, kyoMki hetu mokSa kA hai islie| phira apane pAsa jo AyA ho vaha auroM ke lie luTA deM! use jIvana jInA AyA kahA jAtA hai| pAgalapana se nahIM, samajhadArI se laTA deN| pAgalapana se zarAba-varAba pItA ho, usameM kucha bhalA nahIM hotaa| kabhI bhI vyasana nahIM kare aura auroM ke lie luTAe, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kahalAtA hai| usase Age puNyAnubaMdhI puNya kauna-sA? kisI bhI kriyA meM badale kI AzA nahIM rakhe, sAmanevAle ko sukha dete samaya kisI bhI prakAra ke badale kI icchA nahIM rakhe, vaha puNyAnubaMdhI puNya ! jJAna hI chur3avAe bhaTakana meM se logoM ne jo jAnA hai, vaha laukika jJAna hai| saccA jJAna to vAstavika hotA hai aura vAstavika jJAna ho, vaha kisI bhI prakAra kA ajaMpA hone nahIM detaa| vaha aMdara kisI prakAra kA paz2ala khaDA hone nahIM detaa| isa bhrAMtijJAna se to nire pajala hI khar3e hote rahate haiM, aura ve paz2ala phira solva nahIM hote| bAta saccI hai, para vaha samajha meM AnI cAhie na? matalaba samajha meM phiTa hue binA kabhI bhI hala nahIM aataa| samajha meM phiTa honA caahie| samajha meM A sake usake lie pApa dhone par3ate haiN| pApa nahIM dhuleM taba taka ThikAne nahIM AtA hai| ye saba pApa hI ulajhAte haiN| pApa rUpI aura puNya rUpI paccara (rukAvaTa) hai bIca meN| vahI manuSya ko ulajhAte haiM na! anaMta janmoM se bhaTakate-bhaTakate isa bhautika ke hI pIche par3e hue haiN| isa bhautika meM aMtara zAMti nahIM hotI hai| rupayoM kA bistara bichA deM

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pApa-puNya 75 to kyA nIMda AegI? yaha to khuda kI sArI anaMta zaktiyA~ vyartha ho gaI ! jJAnI puruSa pApa dho dete haiN| kRSNa bhagavAna ne gItA meM kahA hai, jJAnI puruSa pApa kI poTalI banAkara naSTa kara dete haiN| usa pApa kA nAza ho jAe taba AtmA prakaTa hotA hai, nahIM to kisI bhI taraha se AtmA prakaTa nahIM hotA hai| khuda kisa taraha pApa kA nAza kara sakegA? nayA puNya jarUra bA~dha sakatA hai, parantu purAne pApoM kA nAza nahIM kara sktaa| jJAnI puruSa kA jJAna hI pApoM kA nAza kara detA hai| bAqI, puNya aura pApa, pApa aura puNya, unake anubaMdha meM hI manuSya mAtra bhaTakatA rahatA hai| use kabhI bhI usameM se mukti nahIM milatI hai| bahuta puNya kare to bahuta huA to devagati milatI hai, para mokSa to nahIM hI miltaa| mokSa to jJAnI puruSa mileM, aura Apake anaMtakAla ke pApoM ko bhasmibhUta karake Apake hAtha meM zuddha AtmA deM taba hogaa| taba taka coryAsI lAkha yoniyoM meM bhaTakate hI rahanA hai| 'hama' jJAna dete haiM, taba citta zuddha kara dete haiN| pApa kA nAza karate haiM aura divyacakSu de dete haiM, sabhI prakAra se usake AtmA aura anAtmA ko alaga kara dete haiM ! se ? bIjA, mahAvideha kSetra kA praznakartA: mahAvideha kSetra meM kisa taraha jAyA jA sakatA hai? puNya dAdAzrI : yaha jJAna milane ke bAda hamArI pA~ca AjJA pAleM, to usase isa bhava meM puNya ba~dha hI rahe haiM, ve mahAvideha kSetra meM le jAte haiN| AjJA pAlane se dharmadhyAna hotA hai| vaha sArA phala degaa| hameM mokSa meM jAnA hai, vahA~ para mokSa meM jAyA jAe, utanA puNya caahie| yahA~ Apa sImaMdhara svAmI kA jitanA karoge (bhakti - ArAdhanA ), utanA saba ApakA A gyaa| Apane sImaMdhara svAmI kA nAma to sunA hai na? ve abhI tIrthaMkara haiM, mahAvideha kSetra meM Aja unakI upasthiti hai / pApa-puNya sImaMdhara svAmI kI Ayu kitanI, 60-70 sAla kI hogI? paune do lAkha varSa kI Ayu hai ! abhI savA lAkha varSa jInevAle haiM! yaha unake sAtha tAra jor3a detA huuN| kyoMki vahA~ jAnA hai| yahA~ se hI sIdhA mokSa honevAlA nahIM hai| abhI eka janma bAqI rhegaa| unake pAsa baiThanA hai isalie tAra jor3a detA huuN| 76 aura ye bhagavAna pUre varlDa kA kalyANa kreNge| pUre varlDa kA kalyANa hogA unake nimitta se| kyoMki ve jIvita haiN| jo mokSa meM jA cuke hoM, unase kucha ho nahIM sakatA, unakI bhakti se kevala puNya ba~dhatA hai, jo saMsAra phala detA hai ! vahA~ puNya aura pApa donoM nikAlI... dharma do prakAra ke haiN| eka svAbhAvika dharma, use riyala dharma kahate haiN| aura dUsarA vibhAvika dharma, jo rileTiva dharma kahalAtA hai| jaba 'zuddhAtmA' prApta ho jAe, taba svAbhAvika dharma meM Ate haiN| svAbhAvika dharma hI kharA dharma hai, usa dharma meM acchA-burA kucha bhI cunane kA hai hI nahIM / vibhAvika dharma meM sabakucha cunane kA hai| dAna karanA, logoM para upakAra karanA, oblAijiMga necara rakhanA, logoM kI sevA karanA, una sabhI ko rilaTiva dharma kahA hai| usase puNya ba~dhatA hai| aura gAliyA~ dene se, mArAmArI karane se, lUTa lene se pApa ba~dhate haiN| puNya aura pApa jahA~ haiM, vahA~ riyala dharma hI nahIM hai| riyala dharma puNyapApa se rahita hai| jahA~ puNya-pApa ko heya (tyAjya) mAnA jAtA hai aura khuda kA AtmA svarUpa upAdeya (grahaNIya) mAnA jAtA hai, vahA~ 'riyala dharma' hai| isa prakAra yaha 'riyala' aura 'rileTiva' donoM alaga dharma haiN| jaba taka 'maiM kauna hU~' jAnegA nahIM, taba taka puNya upAdeya rUpa meM hI hotA hai aura pApa heya rUpa meM hotA hai| puNya-pApa heya ho gae, vahA~ para samakita ! bhagavAna ne kahA hai ki pApa-puNya donoM ke Upara jise dveSa yA rAga nahIM hai vaha 'vItarAga' hai! jaya saccidAnaMda

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UparI kalpa goThavaNI noMdha niyANAM dhaula silaka tAyafA upalaka kar3hApA ajaMpA rAjIpA silaka potApaNuM lAgaNI upAdhi cyavana vaikriyika lUMTabAjI mUla gujarAtI zabdoM ke samAnArthI zabda : baoNsa, variSTha mAlika : kAlacakra : seTiMga, prabaMdha, vyavasthA : atyaMta rAga athavA dveSa sahita lambe samaya taka yAda rakhanA, noTa karanA : apanA sArA puNya lagAkara kisI eka vastu kI kAmanA karanA : hathelI se mAranA : rAhakharca, pU~jI : phaz2ItA : satahI, Upara Upara se, suparaphluasa : kur3hana, kleza : becainI, azAMti, ghabarAhaTa gurajanoM kI kRpA aura prasannatA : jamApUMjI : maiM hU~ aura merA hai, aisA AropaNa, merApana : bhAvukatAvAlA prema, lagAva : (bAhara se AnevAlA du:kha) : ( AtmA kI daivIya zarIra chor3ane kI kriyA) : (devatAoM kA atizaya halke paramANuoM se banA huA zarIra jo koI bhI rUpa dhAraNa kara sakatA hai ) : chInA-jhapaTI zuddhAtmA ke prati prArthanA (pratidina eka bAra boleM) aMtaryAmI paramAtmA ! Apa pratyeka jIvamAtra meM birAjamAna ho, vaise hI mujha meM bhI birAjamAna ho| ApakA svarUpa hI merA svarUpa hai| merA svarUpa zuddhAtmA hai| he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna ! maiM Apako abheda bhAva se atyaMta bhaktipUrvaka namaskAra karatA huuN| ajJAnatAvaza maiMne jo jo doSa kiye haiM, una sabhI doSoM ko Apake samakSa jAhira karatA huuN| unakA hRdayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA hU~ aura Apase kSamA yAcanA karatA huuN| he prabhu! mujhe kSamA karo, kSamA karo, kSamA karo aura phira se aise doSa nahIM karU~, aisI Apa mujhe zakti do, zakti do, zakti do| he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna ! Apa aisI kRpA karo ki hameM bhedabhAva chUTa jAye aura abheda svarUpa prApta ho| hama Apa meM abheda svarUpa se tanmayAkAra rheN| jo jo doSa hue hoM, ve mana meM z2Ahira kreN| pratikramaNa vidhi pratyakSa dAdA bhagavAna kI sAkSI meM, dehadhArI (jisake prati doSa huA ho, usa vyakti kA nAma) ke mana-vacana-kAyA ke yoga, bhAvakarma-dravyakarmanorma se bhinna aise he zuddhAtmA bhagavAna, ApakI sAkSI meM, Aja dina taka mujhase jo jo doSa hue haiM, usake lie kSamA mA~gatA huuN| hRdayapUrvaka bahuta pazcAtApa karatA huuN| mujhe kSamA kreN| aura phira se aise doSa kabhI bhI nahIM karU~, aisA dRr3ha nizcaya karatA huuN| usake lie mujhe parama zakti dIjie, zakti dIjie, zakti diijie| krodha - mAna-mAyA-lobha, viSaya-vikAra, kaSAya Adi se kisI ko bhI duHkha pahu~cAyA ho, usa doSo ko mana meM yAda kreN|

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