Karma Nu Vigyan

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation
Catalog link: https://jainqq.org/explore/008855/1

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dAdA bhagavAna phacilI kanuM vijJAna bhAvathI garbhapaMdhana ! karmonAcI baMdhAya che ? zuM karuM chuM' e katafbhAva che. kare che bIjA koI ne Aropa kare che ke me karyuM. e katabhAvathI karma baMdhAyache. have 'kata koNa che? e jANavuM paDe. eTale pachI bhanAdhAya ne munti thAya! -kAzrI

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prakAzaka dAdA bhagavAna prarUpita : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana vatI zrI ajita sI. paTela 5, mamatApArka sosAyaTI, navagujarAta koleja pAchaLa, usmAnapurA, amadAvAda-38014. phena : (09) 754,408, 7543979. : saMpAdakane svAdhIna karmanuM vijJAna prathama AvRti : 5,OOO dvitIya AvRtiH pa,000 tRtIya AvRtiH 1,000 caturtha AvRtiH 4,000 paMcama AvRti : 2,000 me, 1997 sapTembara, 1997 eprila, 1999 oNgaSTa, 1999 eprila, 2003 bhAva mUlya : "parama vinaya" ane 'huM kaMI ja jANato nathI', e bhAva ! dravya mUlya : 15 rUpiyA (rAhata dare) lesara kaMpojha : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, amadAvAda. saMkalana : DaoN. nIrubahena amIta mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (prinTIMga DIvIjhana), bhoMyarAmAM, pArzvanAtha cembarsa, rijharva beMka pAse, InkamaTeksa, amadAvAda. phona : 7542964

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(dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezananA prakAzano 1. bhogave tenI bhUla (gu., aM., hiM.) 24. satya-asatyanA rahasyo 2. banyuM te ja nyAya (gu., aMga, hiM.) 25. ahiMsA 3. eDajasTa evarIvhera (gu, aMta,hiM.) 26. prema athaDAmaNa TALo (gu, aM., hiM.) 27. camatkAra ciMtA (gujarAtI, aMgrejI) 28. vANI, vyavahAramAM.... krodha (gujarAtI, aMgrejI) 29, nijadoSa darzanathI, nirdoSa 7. mAnavadharma 30. guru-ziSya sevA-paropakAra 31. AptavANI - 1 thI 13 9. huM koNa chuM ? 32. Aptastra 10. dAdA bhagavAna? 33. The essence of all religion 11. trimaMtra 34. Generation Gap 12. dhana 34. Who am I? 13. mRtyu samaye, pahelAM ane pachI 3. Ultimate Knowledge 14. bhAvanA sudhAre bhavobhava (gu..aM.) 37. Harmony inMarraige 15. vartamAnatIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI (gu.hi.) 38. Pratikraman. 16. paisAno vyavahAra (graM, saM.) 39. FlawlessVision, 17. pati-patnInodivya vyavahAra (jhaM., saM.) 40. TheScience of Karma 18. mA-bApa chokarAMno vyavahara(,sa) 41. sUtA pravAna zrI gAtmavijJAna 19. pratikramaNa (graMtha, saMkSipta) 42. sarvasuHrvo se mukta 20. samajathI prApta brahmacarya(jhaM., saM.) 43. #4 #aa vijJAna 21. vANIno siddhAMta 44. jJAnI puruSa kI pahacAna 22. karmanuM vijJAna 45. mAtmavoya 23. pApa-puNya (gu.-gujarAtI, hi.-hindI, aM.-aMgrejI,gaM.-graMtha, saM.-saMkSipta) 'dAdAvANI' megejhina dara mahine prakAzita thAya che) (dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezananA prakAzano 1. bhogave tenI bhUla (gu, aM., hiM.) 24. satya-asatyanA rahasyo banyuM te ja nyAya (gu., e., hiM.) 25. ahiMsA 3. eDajasTa evarIvhera (gu.maM, hiM.) 26. prema 4. athaDAmaNa TALo (gu., e., hiM.) 27. camatkAra 5. ciMtA (gujarAtI, aMgrejI) 28. vANI, vyavahAramAM.... 6. krodha (gujarAtI, aMgrejI) 29. nijadoSa darzanathI, nirdoSa 7. mAnavadharma 30. guru-ziSya 8. sevA-paropakAra 31. AptavANI - 1 thI 13 9. huM koNa chuM ? 32, AptasUtra 10. dAdA bhagavAna? 33. The essence of all religion 11. trimaMtra 38. Generation Gap 12. dAna 34. Who am I? 13. mRtyu samaye, pahelAM ane pachI 3EUR. Ultimate Knowledge 14. bhAvanA sudhAre bhavobhava(gu.,.) 37. HarmonyinMarraige 15. vartamAnatIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI (gu.hi.) 38. Pratilaman 16. paisAno vyavahAra (jhaM., saM.) 9. FlawlessVision 17. pati-patnIno divya vyavahAra (9, saM.) 40. TheScience of Karma 18. mA-bApa chokarAMno vyavahAra (u,sa) 41. rUdrA banavAna vaza AtmavijJAna 19. pratikramaNa (graMtha, saMkSipta) 42. sarvadu:e se mukta 20. samajathI prApta brahmacarya (jhaM., saM.) 43. # #aa vijJAna 21. vANIno siddhAMta 44. jJAnI puruSa vazI padavAna 22. karmanuM vijJAna 45. Atmavadha 23. pApa-puNya (gu.-gujarAtI, hi.-hindI, aM.-aMgrejI,gaM.-graMtha, saM.-saMkSipta) ("dAdAvANI' megejhina dara mahine prakAzita thAya che )

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saMpAdakIya paraNatI vakhate mAthethI sApho khasyo ne vicAra Avyo, ' A lagnanuM enDa rIjhalTa zuM? bemAMthI ekane to rAMDavAnuM ja ne!' paiNa caDhayuM hoya evA mohanA prasaMge utkRSTa vairAgyano kevo adbhUta vicAra! bAbo-bebI jamyA pachI .... vIsame varase bAbo jamyo. mitrone hoTalamAM pArTI ApI. be varasa pachI pAchI hoTalamAM pArTI ApI. badhAe pUchyuM, "zenI pArTI?'pUjyazrIe kahyuM, 'mahemAna AvyA te gayA!' pAchI bebI janmI te vakhate paNa pArTI ApI. cha mahinA pachI bIjI pArTI ApI. zenI? 'mahemAna AvyAM, te gayAM!' adhyAtma tarapha vaLyuM jIvana ! bAvIsame varSe zrImad rAjacaMdranuM pustaka vAMcavAmAM AvyuM. tyArathI AtmAnI khoja cAlu thai, te pUrI thaI 1958mAM, hajArone tyArabAda jJAna ApI mokSanAM dvAre pahoMcADyA! jIvana sAduM, saraLa, koIpaNa jAtanAM bAhya ADaMbara rahita, koinA gurU thayA nahIM. laghuttama padamAM ja sadA rahyA. koI vADo nahi, saMpradAya nahi. kevaLa AtmadharmanI ja prApti karAvavAno abhUtapUrva sidhdhAMta ! 1988mAM dhULa dehavilaya. sUmadehe vizvamAM vyApI jagata kalyANanuM avirata kArya vadhu vege vadhArI rahyA che! paisAnA vyavahArato dAdAzrIto sidhdhAMta 'vepAramAM dharma ghaTe, dharmamAM vepAra na ghaTe' e sidhdhAMtathI teo AkhuM jIvana jIvI gayAM. jIvanamAM kyAre ya emaNe koInI pAsethI paiso lIdho nathI. urdu dhaMdhAnI vadhArAnI kamANIthI bhaktone jAtrA karAvatA! AtmajJAna prAptinI vartamAne pratyakSa lIMka parama pUjya dAdAzrI gAmegAma-dezavideza paribhramaNa karIne mumukSu jIvone satsaMga tathA svarUpajJAnanI prApti karAvatAM hatAM. teozrIe potAnI hayAtImAM ja pUjya DaoN. nIrubahena amInane svarUpajJAna prApti karAvavAnI jJAnasiddhi Apela. teozrInA dehavilaya bAda Aje paNa pU. DaoN. nIrubena amIna gAmegAma dezavideza pharIne mumukSu jIvone satsaMga tathA svarUpajJAnanI prAti nimitta bhAve karAvI rahyA che, jeno lAbha hajAro mumukSo laIne dhanyatA anubhave che. - jaya saccidAnaMda. aNakalpalAM, aNadhArelAM banAvo avAranavAra TI.vI ke chApAmAM jANavA maLe che, jevAM ke plenakreza thayuM ne 40 mANasa marI gayAM, moTo bomba blAsTa thayo, Aga lAgI, dharatIkaMpa, vAvAjhoDA thayAM hajAro loko mAryA gayA ! keTalAMya eksiDaMTamAM mAryA gayA, keTalAM rogathI maryA ne janmatAM ja mayAM ! keTalAMye ApaghAta karyo bhUkhamarAthI ! dharmAtmA kALA karatUto karatAM pakaDAyA, keTalAMya bhikhArIo bhUkhe maryA ! tyAre saMto bhakto jJAnIo jevA ucca mahAtmAo nijAnaMdamAM jIvI rahyAM che ! dararoja dilhInA kaubhAMDo ughADA paDe AvAM samAcArothI pratyeka mAnavInA hRdayamAM eka moTuM praznArtha cihna khaDuM thaI jAya che ke AnuM rahasya zuM ? AnI pAchaLa kazuM guhya kAraNa raheluM haze ? nirdoSa bALaka janmatAM ja kema apaMga thayuM ? hRdaya dravI jAya, khUba mathAmaNa chatAM samAdhAna nathI thatuM ane aMte sahu sahunAM karmo ema karIne asamAdhAnane varelA bhAre mana sAthe cUpa thaI javAya che ! karmo kahIe chatAM ya karma zuM haze ? kevI rIte baMdhAtuM haze ? enI zaruAta zuM ? paheluM karma kyAMthI thayuM ? karmamAMthI mukti maLI zake ? karmanA bhogavaTAne TALI zakAya ? bhagavAna karato haze ke karma karAvatuM haze ? mRtyu pachI zuM ? karma koNa bAMdhatu haze ! bhogave che koNa ? AtmA ke deha ? ApaNA loko karma kone kahe che ? kAma-dhaMdho kare, satkArya kare, dAna-dharama kare e badhu karma karyuM kahe, jJAnIo ane karma nahIM paNa karmaphaLa kahe che. je pAMca indriyothI joI zakAya, anubhavI zakAya e badhuM dhULamAM che te karmaphaLa eTale ke DiscArja karma kahevAya. gayA bhavamAM je cArja karyuM hatuM tenuM Aje DiscArjamAM AvyuM, rUpakamAM AvyuM ane atyAre je navuM karma cArja kare che te to sUkSmamAM thAya che e cAga

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poInTanI koIne ya khabara paDe ema nathI. eka zeTha pAse eka saMsthAvALA TrasTIo dharmAdA mATe dAna ApavA dabANa kare che tethI zeTha pAMca lAkha rUpiyA dAnamAM Ape che. tyAra pachI e zeThanA mitra zeThane pUche che ke alyA, A lokone teM kayAM ApyA ? A badhA cora che, khAI jaze tArA paisA.' tyAre zeTha kahe che, e badhAMne, eke ekane huM sArI rIte oLakhuM paNa zuM karuM e saMsthAnA ceramena mArA vevAI thAya te temanA dabANathI ApavA paDyA, nahIM to huM pAMca rUpiyA ya ApuM evo nathI !' have pAMca lAkha rUpiyA dAnamAM ApyA te bahAra lokone zeTha mATe dhanya dhanya thaI gayuM paNa e emanuM DiscArja karma hatuM, ane cArja zuM karyuM zeThe ? pAMca rUpiyA ya nA ApuM ! te mahIM sUkSmamAM avaLuM cArja kare che. te AvatA bhavamAM pAMca rUpiyA ya nahIM ApI zake koIne ! ane bIjo garIba mANasa e ja saMsthAnA lokone pAMca ja rUpiyA Ape che ne kahe che ke mArI pAse pAMca lAkha hota to te badhA ja ApI deta ! je dilathI Ape che te AvatA bhave pAMca lAkha ApI zake. Ama bahAra dekhAya che te to phaLa che ne mahIM sUkSmamAM bIja naMkhAya che te koIne ya khabara paDe ema nathI. e to aMtarmukha draSTi thAya tyAre dekhAya. have A samajAya to bhAva bagADavAnA rahe ? gayA bhavamAM, khAI pIne majhA karavI che evA karma bAMdhIne lAvyo te saMcita karma. te sUkSmamAM sTokamAM hoya che te phaLa ApavA sanmukha thAya tyAre jaMga phUDa (kacaro) khAvA prerAya ane khAI nAkhe te prArabdha karma ane enuM pAchuM phaLa Ave eTale ke IphekTanI IphekTa Ave ke ene maraDo thaI jAya, mAMdo paDe e kriyamANa karma ! parama pUjya dAdAzrIe karmanA siddhAMtanI AgaLa vyavasthita zaktine jagata niyaMtA kahI che, jeno karma to aMza mAtra kahevAya. 'vyavasthita'mAM karma samAya paNa karmamAM 'vyavasthita' nA samAya. karma to bI svarUpe ApaNe sUkSmamAM pUrvabhavathI bAMdhIne lAvyA te. have eTalAthI kaMI nA pate. e karmanuM phaLa Ave eTale ke bImAMthI jhADa thAya ne phaLa Ave tyAM sudhI bIjA keTalAM ya saMyogonI emAM jarUra paDe che. bI mATe jamIna, pANI, khAtara, TADha, taDako, TAIma badhAM saMjogo bhegAM thAya pachI kerI pAke ne AMbo maLe ! dAdAzrIe khUba ja suMdara phoDa pADyo ke A badhuM to phaLa che. karmabIja to mahIM sUkSmamAM kAma kare che ! ghaNAMne prazna e thAya che ke paheluM karma kevI rIte baMdhAyuM ? pahelA deha ke paheluM karma ? paheluM iMDu ke pahelI maraghI ? enA jevI A vAta thaI ! kharekhara vAstavikatAmAM paheluM karma jevI vastu ja nathI varlDamAM koI ! karma ane AtmA badhA anAdi kALathI che. jene ApaNe karma kahIe chIe e jaDa tattvanuM che ane AtmA cetana tattva che. banne tattvo judA ja che ane tattva eTale sanAtana vastu kahevAya. je sanAtana hoya tenA Adi kyAMthI ? A to AtmA ne jaDa tattvano saMyoga thayo ne temAM AropIta bhAvonuM AropaNa thayA ja karyuM. tenuM A phaLa AvIne UbhuM rahyuM. saMyoga viyogI svabhAvanA che. tethI saMyogo Ave ne jAya. tethI jAta jAtanI avasthAo UbhI thAya ne jAya. temAM roMga bilIpha UbhI thAya che ke 'A huM chuM ne A mAruM che.' tenAthI tenuM A rupI jagata bhAsyamAna thAya che. A rahasya samajAya to zuddhAtmA ne saMyoga be ja vastu che jagatamAM. ATaluM nahIM samajAvAthI jAta jAtanI jADI bhASAmAM karma, nasIba prArabdha badhuM kahevuM paDyuM che. paNa vijJAna ATaluM ja kahe che. mAtra saMyogo je che badhAM emAMthI para thAya to AtmAmAM ja rahI zake ! to pachI karma jevuM kazuM ja nathI. karma kevI rIte baMdhAya ? kartAbhAvathI karma baMdhAya. kartAbhAva kone kahevAya ? kare koI ne mAne 'huM karuM chuM' enuM nAma kartAbhAva. kartAbhAva zenAthI thAya ? ahaMkArathI. ahaMkAra kone kahevAya ? je pote nathI tyAM Aropa kare 'huM'paNAno, enuM nAma ahaMkAra. Aropita bhAva enuM nAma ahaMkAra, 'huM caMdubhAI chuM' evuM mAne che e ja ahaMkAra che. kharekhara pote caMdulAla che ? ke caMdulAla nAma che ? nAmane

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'huM mAne che, zarIrane 'huM mAne che, huM dhaNI chuM, A badhI roMga bilIpho che. kharekhara to pote AtmA ja che, zuddhAtmA ja che paNa enuM bhAna nathI, jJAna nathI tethI huM caMdulAla, huM ja deha chuM evuM mAne che. e ja ajJAnatA che ! ane enAthI ja karma baMdhAya che. chUTe dehAdhyAsa to nahIM kata tuM karma nahIM bhoktA tuM tehano e che dharmano marma. - zrImad rAjacaMdra jo tuM jIva to kartA hari, jo tuM zIva to vastu kharI. - akhA bhagata huM caMdulAla chuM" evuM bhAna che tene jIvadazA kahI ane huM caMdulAla nathI paNa kharekhara huM to zuddhAtmA chuM enuM bhAna, jJAna varte tene zIva pada kahyuM. pote ja zIva che, AtmA e ja paramAtmA che ane eno svabhAva saMsArI koI cIja karavAno nathI. svabhAvathI ja AtmA akriya che, asaMga che. 'AtmA chuM' ne huM kaMI ja karato nathI evo niraMtara khyAla rahe tene jJAnI kahyA ane te pachI ekuMya karma navuM baMdhAtuM nathI. jUnAM DiscArja karma phaLa ApIne khalAsa thayA kare che. khAvAnAM kAraNo bAMdhIne lAvyo che tenuM phaLa, tenI IphekTa AvIne UbhI rahe che tyAre bIjA keTalAMya dekhAtAM nimitto emAM bhegAM thavAM joIe. ekalA bI thI ja phaLa nA pAka paNa badhuM ja nimitto bhegAM thAya to bIjamAMthI vRkSa thAya ne phaLa cAkhavA maLe. eTale A je phaLa Ave che temAM bIjA nimitto vinA phaLa zI rIte Ave ? apamAna khAvAnuM bIja ApaNe ja vAveluM tenuM phaLa Ave, apamAna maLe te mATe bIjA nimitto bhegAM thavAM ja joIe. have e nimittone doSita dekhI kaSAya karI navAM karmo bAMdhe che manuSyo, ajJAnatAthI ane jJAna hAjara rahe ke sAmo nimitta ja che, nirdoSa che ane A apamAna maLe che te mArA ja karmanuM phaLa che, to navuM karma nA baMdhAya ane eTaluM mukta rahevAya ane sAmo doSita dekhAI jAya to turta ja tene nirdoSa jovo ane doSIta joyAnA pratikramaNa zUTa eTa sAITa karI nAkhavAM, jethI bIja zekAI jAya ne uge ja nahIM. bIjA badhA nimitta bhegA thaIne pote nAkhelA bIjanuM phaLa AvavuM ne potAne bhogavavuM paDe, e AkhI prosesa onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa che ane tene ja dAdAzrIe kahyuM ke 'vyavasthita zakti' phaLa Ape che. AtmajJAnI puruSa parama pUjya zrI dAdA bhagavAne potAnA jJAnamAM avalokana karIne duniyAne 'karmanuM vijJAna ApyuM che, je dAdAzrInI vANImAM atre saMkSiptamAM pustaka rUpe mUkyuM che, je vAcakane jIvanamAM mUMjhavatA koyaDA sAme samAdhAnI ukela bakSaze ! - DaoN. nIrubahena amInanA jaya saccidAnaMda. karmabIja gayA bhavamAM vAve che, te karmanuM phaLa A bhavamAM Ave che. tyAre e phaLa koNa Ape che ? bhagavAna ? nA. e kudarata Ape che. jene parama pUjya dAdAzrI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa'vyavasthita zakti' kahe che. je cArjanuM DiscArja necaralI ane oTomeTIkalI, thAya. e phaLa bhogavatI vakhate pAcho gamo-aNagamo, rAga-dveSa ajJAnatAne kAraNe karyA vagara raheto nathI. je navuM bIja nAkhe che. jenuM phaLa AvatA bhave bhogavavuM paDe. jJAnIo navuM bIja paDatuM aTakAve che, jethI pAchalAM phaLa pUrA thaI mokSa padane pamAya che ! koI ApaNuM apamAna kare, nukasAna kare, e to nimitta che, nirdoSa che. kAraNa vagara kAryamAM kevI rIte Ave ? pote apamAna

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karmatuM vijJAna karIe chIe ke karavuM paDe che ? dAdAzrI : tAre koI vastu evI thAya che ke tArI IcchA nA hoya chatAM ya tAre evuM kaMI karavuM paDe ? evuM kaMI thAya che tAre koI dahADo ya ? evuM bane ke nahIM ? praznakartA : hA. evuM bane che. dAdAzrI : lokone thatuM haze ke nahIM ? enuM zuM kAraNa ? ke IcchA nA hoya ne karavuM paDe che. e pUrvakarma kareluM che, tenI A IphekTa AvI. parANe karIe, tenuM zuM kAraNa ? jagatanA loko A IphekTane ja kaoNjha kahe che ane pelI IphekTa to samajatA ja nathI ne ! A jagatanA loko Ane kaoNjha kahe, to ApaNe kahIe nahIM ke mArI IcchA nathI te zI rIte A kArya karyuM meM ? have je IcchA nathI e karma 'meM karyuM,' e zI rIte kaho cho ? kAraNa ke jagata zAthI kahe che ene, 'tame karma karyuM' ema ? kAraNa ke dekhItI kriyAne ja jagatanA loko karma karyuM kahe che. loka kaheze ke A ANe ja karma bAMdhyuM. jyAre jJAnIo ene samajI jAya ke A to pariNAma AvyuM. koNe mokalyA pRthvI para ? praznakartA : ApaNe ApaNI meLe janmyA chIe ke ApaNane koI mokalanAra che ? karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : koI mokalanAra che nahIM. tamArA karmo ja tamane laI jAya che. ne tarata ja tyAM avatAra maLe che. sArAM karmo hoya to sArI ja jagyAe janma thAya, khoTAM karyo hoya to khoTI jagyAe thAya. karmato siddhAMta zuM ? praznakartA H karmanI vyAkhyA zuM ? dAdAzrI : koI paNa kArya karo, ene 'huM karuM chuM' evo AdhAra Ape e karmanI vyAkhyA. 'huM karuM chuM' evo AdhAra Ape, enuM nAma karma bAMdhyuM kahevAya. 'huM karato nathI' ane 'koNa kare che' e jANo eTale Ane nirAdhAra kare ne, to karma paDI jAya. praznakartA : karmano siddhAMta eTale zuM ? dAdAzrI : tuM vAvamAM aMdara utarI jaIne boluM ke 'tuM cora che.' eTale vAva zuM bole ? praznakartA : 'tuM cora che.' ema ApaNe bolelAno paDagho pADe che. dAdAzrI : basa, basa. jo tane A nA gamatuM hoya, to ApaNe kahIe ke 'tuM bAdazAha che.' eTale e tane 'bAdazAha' kahe. tane game e kahe, e karmano siddhAMta ! tane vakIlAta game to vakIlAta kara. DaoNkaTarI game to DaoNkTarI kara. karma eTale ekzana ! riekzana eTale zuM ? e paDagho che. riekzana paDaghAvALuM che. enuM phaLa AvyA vagara rahe nahIM. e vAva zuM kaheze ? te A jagata badhuM projekTa ApaNuM ja che. je tame karma kahetA'tAne, e projekTa che. praznakartA : karmano siddhAMta kharo ke nahIM ? dAdAzrI : AkhuM jagata karmano siddhAMta ja che, bIjuM kazuM che ja nahIM. ane tamArI ja jokhamadArIthI baMdhana che. A badhuM projekzana ja

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna tamAruM che. A dehe ya tame ja ghaDyo che. tamane je je bheguM thAya che, te badhuM tamAruM ja ghaDeluM che. AmAM bIjA koIno hAtha ja nathI. haoNla enDa sola rIsponsIbIliTI tamArI ja che A badhI, anaMta avatArathI. ApaNuM ja "projekzana' ! praznakartA : caMdubhAI. dAdAzrI : kharekhara caMdubhAI cho ? praznakartA : e kema kahI zakAya ? badhAne je lAge e ja sAcuM. dAdAzrI : to pachI kharekhara to caMdubhAI cho, nahIM ? tamane khAtrI nathI ? "mAya nema Ijha caMdubhAI bolo cho tame to ? praznakartA: mane to khAtrI ja che. dAdAzrI : mAya nema Ijha caMdubhAI, noTa AI. to tame kharekhara caMdubhAI cho ke bIjuM cho ? praznakartA : e barAbara, kaMIka alaga ja chIe. e to hakIkata vAvamAM jaIne projekTa kare, enAM uparathI loka ema kaheze ke basa, projekTa karavAnI ja jarUra che. ApaNe pUchIe ke zAthI AvuM kaho cho ? tyAre kaheze ke vAvamAM jaIne huM pahelAM bolyo hato ke 'tuM cora che.' to vAve mane ema kIdhuM ke "tuM cora che." pachI meM projekTa pheravyo ke 'tuM rAjA chuM.' to eNe paNa "rAjA" kahyuM. tyAre alyA, e projekTa tArA hAthamAM ja kyAM che te ? projekTa pheravo e vAta to sAcI che, paNa te pAchuM hAthamAM nathI. hA, svataMtra che ya kharo ane nathI ya kharo. 'nathI vadhAre ane "che" ochuM. evuM A parasattAvALuM jagata che. sAcuM jJAna jANyA pachI svataMtra che, nahIM to tyAM sudhI svataMtra nathI ! paNa have projekTa baMdha kema thAya ? potAnuM svarUpa jyAM sudhI jaDe nahIM AmAMthI, A badhA bhAgamAM, "huM A chuM ke te chuM ?" tyAM sudhI bhaTakavAnuM che. A deha te huM hoya. A AMkho ya huM nhoya. aMdara bIjA badhAM bahu sparaspArTas che, e badhAmAM 'huM caMdubhAI chuM' evuM haju bhAna che. A saravaiyuM nathI kADhI zakatA, eTale e zuM jANe che? A tyAga karuM chuM, te ja huM chuM. eTale to kyAMya ThekANe nA rahyo emane. e jANe che ke A tapa kare che, te ja "huM chuM. A sAmAyika kare che, te ja ". A vyAkhyAna kare che, te ja 'huM chuM. huM karuM chuM." evuM bhAna che tyAM sudhI navo projekTa karyA kare che. junA projekTa pramANe bhogavyA kare che. karmano siddhAMta samajatA hoya ne, to mokSano siddhAMta jANI jAya. roMga bilIphathI karma baMdhata ! tamAruM nAma zuM che ? dAdAzrI : nA. A caMdubhAI to oLakhavAnuM sAdhana che, ke bhaI, A dehavALA, A bhaI, te caMdubhAI che. tame ya evuM jANo ke A dehanuM nAma caMdubhAI che. paNa 'tame koNa cho ?" e jANavAnuM nahIM ? praznakartA : e jANavuM joIe. jANavAno prayatna karavo joIe. dAdAzrI : eTale zenAM jevuM thayuM ke tame caMdubhAI nathI chatAM tame Aropa karo cho, caMdubhAInA nAmathI badho lAbha uThAvI lo cho. A baIno dhaNI thauM, Ano mAmo thauM, Ano kAko thauM. te lAbha uThAvo cho ne tenAM niraMtara karma baMdhAyA ja kare che. tame Aropita bhAvamAM cho, tyAM sudhI karma baMdhAyA kare. jyAre 'huM koNa chuM ?" e nakkI thayA pachI tamane karma baMdhAya nahIM. eTale atyAre ya karma baMdhAI rahyA che ne rAte UMghamAM ya karma baMdhAya che. kAraNa ke huM caMdubhAI chuM evuM mAnIne UMdhe che. "huM caMdubhAI chuM." e tamArI roMga bilIpha che, enAMthI karma baMdhAya che. bhagavAne moTAmAM moTuM karma karyuM kahyuM ? rAtre 'huM caMdubhAI chuM'

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karmanuM vijJAna kahIne sUI gayA ane pachI AtmAne kothaLAmAM pUryo, te moTAmAM moTuM karma ! kartApadathI karmabaMdhata ! praznakartA : karma zAthI baMdhAya che ? haju jarA vadhu samajAvo., dAdAzrI : karma zAthI baMdhAya che, e tamane kahuM ? karma tame karatAM nathI chatAM ya tame mAno cho ke 'huM karuM chuM.' mATe baMdhana tamAruM jatuM nathI. bhagavAna paNa karyA nathI. bhagavAna kartA hota to emane baMdhana thAta. eTale bhagavAna kartA nathI ne tame ya kartA nathI. paNa tame mAno cho 'huM karuM chuM.' tethI karma baMdhAya che. kolejamAM pAsa thayA, te bIjI zaktine AdhAre thAya che ne tame kaho cho ke huM pAsa thayo. e Aropita bhAva che. tenAthI karma baMdhAya che. vedAMte paNa svIkAryo tirIzvaravAda ! praznakartA : to pachI koI zaktithI thatuM hoya, to koI corI kare to e guno nahIM ane koI dAna Ape to e paNa, badhuM sarakhuM ja kahevAya ne ! dAdAzrI : hA. sarakhuM ja kahevAya, paNa te pAchuM sarakhuM rAkhatAM nathI. dAna ApanAra Ama chAtI kADhIne phare che, eTale to baMdhAyo ane corI karanAro kahe che, 'mane koI pakaDe ja nahIM, bhalabhalAnI corI karuM.' eTale mUo e baMdhAyo. 'meM karyuM' evuM kahe nahIM, to kazuM aDe nahIM. praznakartA : evI eka mAnyatA che ke prAthamika kakSAmAM ApaNe ema mAnIe chIe ke izvara kartA che. AgaLa jatAM nirIzvaravAda sivAya, vedamAM ya kaMI che nahIM. upaniSadamAM paNa nirIzvaravAda ja che. izvara kartA nathI, karmanAM phaLa darekane bhogavavAM paDe che. have e karmanAM phaLa bhavobhavanAM cAlyA karatAM haze ? karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : hAstone, karma evuM che ne A kerImAMthI AMbo ane AMbAmAMthI kerI, kerImAMthI AMbo ne AMbAmAMthI kerI ! praznakartA : e to utkrAMtino niyama thayo, e to thayAM ja karavAnuM. dAdAzrI : nA, e ja karmaphaLa. e kerI phaLa AvI, te phaLamAMthI bI paDe ne pAchuM jhADa thAya ne jhADamAM pAchuM phaLa thAya ne ! e cAlyA ja karavAnuM, karmamAMthI karmabIja paDayAM ja kare. praznakartA : to pachI e zubha-azubha karma baMdhAyA ja kare, chUTe ja nahIM. dAdAzrI : hA, upara garbha khaI le ane goTalo pAcho paDe. praznakartA : e to pharI tyAM AMbo utpanna thAya. dAdAzrI : chUTe ja nahIM ne ! jo tame Izvarane kartA mAno to pachI tame tamArI jAtane kartA zuM kAma mAno cho ? A to pAcho pote hau kartA thaI bese che ! manuSya ekalo ja evo che ke je 'huM kartA chuM' evuM bhAna dharAve che, ane jyAM kartA thayo tyAM AzritatA tUTI jAya che. tene bhagavAna kahe che, 'bhaI, tuM karI le che to tuM chUTo ne huM chUTo.' pachI bhagavAnane ne tamAre zuM levAdevA ? pote kartA mAne che tethI karma thAya che. pote jo e karmano kartA nA mAne to karmano vilaya thAya che. A che mahAbhajatano marma ! tethI akhA bhagata bolyA ke, jo tuM jIva to kartA hari; jo tuM zIva to vastu kharI!

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karmanuM vijJAna eTale jo 'tuM zuddhAtmA' to sAcI vAta che. ane jo 'jIva chuM', to upara kartA hira che. ane jo 'tuM zIva chuM' to vastu kharI che. upara hira nAmanuM koI che ja nahIM. eTale jIva-zIvano bheda gayo. e paramAtmA thavAnI taiyArI thaI. A badhA ya bhagavAnane bhaje, e jIvazIvano bheda che ane ApaNe ahIM A jJAna maLyA pachI jIva-zivano bheda gayo. kartA chUTe to chUTe karma; e che mahAbhajanano marma! 6 7 cArja kyAre thAya ke 'huM caMdubhAI chuM ane A meM karyuM.' eTale je UMdhI mAnyatA che tenAthI karma baMdhAyuM. have AtmAnuM jJAna maLe to 'tame' caMdubhAI nathI. caMdubhAI to vyavahArathI, nizcayathI kharekhara nahIM ane A 'meM karyuM' te vyavahArathI. eTale kartApaNuM maTI jAya to karma pachI chUTe, karma baMdhAya nahIM. 'huM kartA nathI' e bhAna thayuM, e zraddhA beThI, tyArathI karma chUTayA, karma baMdhAtA aTakyA. eTale cArja thatAM baMdha thaI gayA. e che mahAbhajanano marma. mahAbhajana zene kahevAya ? sarvazAstronAM sArane mahAbhajana kahevAya. e mahAbhajanano ya sAra che. kare te ja bhogave ! praznakartA : ApaNA zAstro ema kahe che ke darekane karma pramANe phaLa maLe che ! dAdAzrI : e to pote potAno ja javAbadAra che. bhagavAne AmAM hAtha ghAlyo ja nathI. bAkI, A jagatamAM tame svataMtra ja cho. uparI koNa che? tamAre anDarahenDanI Teva che eTale tamAre uparI maLe che, nahi to tamAro koI uparI nathI ne tamAro koI anDarahenDa nathI, evuM A varlDa (jagata) che ! A to samajavAnI jarUra che, bIjuM kazuM che nahi. karmanuM vijJAna AkhA varlDamAM badhe pharI Avyo, evI koI jagyA nathI ke jyAM AgaLa uparIpaNuM hoya. bhagavAna nAmano koI tamAro uparI che nahi. tamArA jokhamadAra tame pote ja cho. AkhA varlDanA loko mAne che ke jagata bhagavAne banAvyuM. paNa je punarjanmano siddhAMta samaje che eNe evuM na mAnI zakAya ke bhagavAne banAvyuM che. punarjanma eTale zuM ke 'huM karuM chuM ane huM bhogavuM chuM. ane mArAM ja karmanAM phaLa bhogavuM chuM. AmAM bhagavAnanI ADakhIlI ja nathI.' pote je kare che, potAnI javAbadArI para ja A badhuM karavAmAM Ave che. konI javAbadArI para che A, samajAyuM ne ? praznakartA H Aja sudhI ema samajato hato ke bhagavAnanI javAbadArI 8 che. dAdAzrI : nA. potAnI ja javAbadArI che ! haoNla enDa sola rIsponsIbIliTI potAnI che, paNa pelA mANasane goLI kema mArI ? e risponsIbala hatA. tenuM A phaLa maLyuM ane e mAranAra risponsIbala thaze, tyAre enuM phaLa maLaze. e TAIma thaze tyAre pAkaze. jema kerI Aje thaI, te Aja ne Aja kerI lAvIne pachI eno rasa nA nIkaLe. e to TAIma thAya, moTI thAya, pAke, tyAre e rasa nIkaLe. evI rIte A goLI vAgIne, te pahelAM pAkIne taiyAra thAya tyAre vAge. ema ne ema nA vAge. ane pelAe goLI mArI tene ja AvaDI nAnI kerI thayelI che, e moTI thayA pachI pAkaze. tyAra pachI eno rasa nIkaLaze. karmabaMdhata, AtmAte ke dehane ? praznakartA : have to pachI karmabaMdhana kone hoya che, AtmAne ke dehane ? dAdAzrI : deha to e pote ja karma che. pachI bIju baMdhana ene hoya kyAMthI ? A to jene baMdhana lAgatuM hoya, je jelamAM beTho hoya

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna tene baMdhana. jelane baMdhana hoya ke jelamAM beTho hoya ene baMdhana ? eTale A deha to jela che ane tenI mahIM beTho che ne tene baMdhana che. "huM baMdhAyo chuM, huM deha chuM, huM caMdubhAI chuM." mAne che, tene baMdhana che. praznakartA : eTale Apa kahevA mAMgo cho ke AtmA deha thakI karma bAMdhe che, ne deha thakI karma choDe che ? dAdAzrI : nA, evuM nathI. AtmA to AmAM hAtha ghAlato ja nathI. kharI rIte to AtmA chuTTo ja che, svataMtra che. vizeSabhAvathI ja A ahaMkAra Ubho thAya che ne te karma bAMdhe che ne te ja karma bhogave che. 'tame cho zuddhAtmA' paNa bolo cho ke "huM caMdubhAI chuM.' jyAM pote nathI, tyAM Aropa karavo ke "huM chuM.' te ahaMkAra kahevAya che. pArakAMnA sthAnane potAnuM sthAna mAne che, e IgoIjhama che. A ahaMkAra chUTe eTale potAnA sthAnamAM avAya. tyAM baMdhana che ja nahIM ! karma atAdithI AtmAsaMge praznakartA : to karma vagaranI AtmAnI sthiti thatI haze ne? te kyAre thAya ? dAdAzrI : eka paNa saMjogonI vaLagaNAM nA hoya ne, ene karma vaLage ja nahi koI dahADo ya ! jene vaLagaNAM koI paNa prakAranI hoya nahi, tene koI paNa prakArano evo karmono hisAba nathI ke ene karma vaLage ! atyAre siddhagatimAM je siddha bhagavaMto che emane koI jAtanAM karma vaLage nahi. vaLagaNAM khalAsa thaI gaI ke vaLage nahi. A to saMsAramAM vaLagaNAM UbhI thaI che ane te anAdi kALanI karmanI vaLagaNAM che. ane te sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansathI che e badhuM. badhAM tattvo gatimAna thayA kare che ne tattvo gatimAna thavAthI ja A badhuM UbhuM thayuM che. A badhI bhrAMti utpanna thaI che. enAthI A badhAM vizeSa bhAva utpanna thayA che. bhrAMti eTale ja vizeSabhAva. eno mULa je svabhAva hato, tenAM karatAM vizeSabhAva utpanna thayo ane tene laIne A badho pheraphAra thayo che. eTale pahelAM kaMI AtmA karma vagarano hato, evuM kyAreya banyuM nathI. eTale e jyAre jJAnI puruSanI pAse Ave che tyAre ghaNo kharo karmano bojo halako thayo hoya che ane haLukarmI thayelo hoya che. haLukarmI che tyAre to jJAnI puruSa bhegA thAya. bhagA thAya te ya sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa che. potAnAM prayatnathI ja karavA jAya to evuM thAya ja nahi, sahaja prayatno, sahejA saheja maLI jAya, tyAre kAma thaI jAya ! karma e saMyoga che, ne viyogI eno svabhAva che. saMbaMdha AtmA te karma taNAM. praznakartA: to AtmA ane karma, enI vacce saMbaMdha zuM che ? dAdAzrI : beunI vacce kartArUpI AMkaDo nA hoya to beu chUTA paDI jAya. AtmA, AtmAnI jagyAe ane karma, karmanI jagyAe chUTAM paDI jAya. praznakartA : samajAyuM nahIM barobara. dAdAzrI : kartA nA bane, to karma che nahi. kartA che, to karma che. kartA nA hoya ne, tame A kArya karatAM hoya ne, to ya tamane karma baMdhAya nahIM. A to kartApada che tamane, "karyuM." tethI baMdhAyuM. praznakartA: to karma ja kartA che ? dAdAzrI : 'ka' e kartA che. 'karma e kartA nathI. tame meM karyuM kaho cho ke 'karma karyuM" kaho cho ? praznakartA : 'huM karuM chuM' evuM to mahIM rahe che ja ne ! "meM karyuM ema ja kahIe chIe. dAdAzrI : hA, e "kartA' 'huM karuM chuM" ema kahe che. A tame kartA

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna thAva cho. bAkI 'karma" kartA nathI. 'AtmA' ya kartA nathI. praznakartA karma eka bAju che ne AtmA eka bAju che. to A bene judAM kaI rIte pADavAM ? dAdAzrI : judAM ja che. A AMkaDo nIkaLI jAya ne to, paNa A to kartApadano AMkaDo ja che. A AMkaDAne lIdhe baMdhAyeluM lAge che. kartApada gayuM, kartApada karanAro gayo, "meM karyuM" evuM bolanAro gayo to thaI rahyuM, khalAsa thaI gayuM. be chUTTA ja che pachI to ! karma baMdhAya e to aMtaHkriyA ! praznakartA : manuSyane karma lAgu paDatAM haze ke nahIM ? dAdAzrI : niraMtara karma bAMdhyA ja kare che. bIjuM kazuM karatA ja nathI. manuSyano ahaMkAra evo che ke khAto nathI, pIto nathI, saMsAra karato nathI, vepAra karato nathI. to ya mAtra ahamUkAra ja kare che ke "huM karuM chuM', tethI badhA karmo bAMdhyA kare che. e ya ajAyabI che ne ?! e pravA (sAbita) thaI zake ema che ! khAto nathI, pIto nathI e muva thaI zake ema che. chatAM ya karmo kare che e paNa dhruva thaI zake che. te manuSya ekalAM ja karma bAMdhe che. praznakartA zarIrane lIdhe khAtAM-pItAM hoya, paNa chatAM pote karma nA paNa karatAM hoya ne ? dAdAzrI : evuM che ne, koI mANasa karma karato hoya ne to AMkhe dekhAya nahIM. dekhAya che tamane ? A je AMkhe dekhAya che ne, ene ApaNAM jagatanA loko karma kahe che. AmaNe A karyuM, AmaNe A karyuM, ANe Ane mAryo, evuM karma bAMdhyuM. have jagatanA loko evuM ja kahe che ne ? praznakartA : hA, jevuM dekhAtuM hoya te evuM kahe. dAdAzrI : karma eTale emanI hilacAla zuM thaI, ene gALa dIdhI to ya karma bAMdhyuM, ene mAryo to ya karma bAMdhyuM. khAdhuM to ya karma bAMdhyuM. sUI gayo to ya karma bAMdhyuM, hilacAla zuM kare che, ene ApaNAM loko karma kahe che. paNa hakIkatamAM dekhAya che e karmaphaLa che, e karma nathI. karma baMdhAya tyAre aMtaradAha baLyA kare. nAnAM chokarAMne kaDavI davA pIvaDAvo, tyAre zuM kare ? moDhuM bagADe ne ! ane gaLI khavaDAvIe to ? khuza thAya. A jagatamAM jIvamAtra rAga-dveSa kare che e kaoNjha che badhAM ane temAMthI A karmo UbhAM thayA che. je potAne game che e ane nA gamatAM, e beu karma Ave che. nA gamatA keDIne jAya. eTale duHkha ApIne jAya ane gamatA sukha ApIne jAya. eTale kaoNjhIjha gayA avatAre thayelA che, te A bhavamAM phaLa Ape che. karmabIjatA niyamo! praznakartA : karmabIjanI evI koI samajaNa che ke A bIja paDaze ne A nahIM paDe ? dAdAzrI : hA, tame kaho ke "A nAsto kevo sarasa thayo che, te meM khAdhuM.' to bIja paDyuM. meM khAdhuM' bolavAmAM vAMdho nathI. 'koNa khAya che, te tamAre jANavuM joIe ke huM nathI khAto, khAnAro khAya che. paNa A to pote kartA thAya ane kartA thAya to ja bIja paDe. gALo bhAMDe to enI para dveSa nahIM, phUla caDhAve ke UMcakIne phare to enI para rAga nahIM, to karma nA baMdhAya ene. praznakartA: rAga-dveSa thAya ane khabara nA paDe, eno upAya zo? dAdAzrI : A InAma maLe che te, AvatA bhavanuM bhaTakavAnuM cAlu ja rahe enuM. saMbaMdha deha te AtmAto... praznakartA : deha ne AtmA vacce saMbaMdha vadhu vigatathI samajAvo ne ?

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karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : A deha che te AtmAnI ajJAnatAthI UbhuM thayeluM pariNAma che. je je 'kaoNjhIjha' karyA, tenI A 'IphekTa' che. koI tamane phUla caDhAve to tame khuza thaI jAva, ane tamane gALa de eTale tame cIDhAI jAva. te cIDhAvAmAM ne khuza thavAmAM bAhya darzananI kiMmata nathI, aMtara-bhAvathI karma cArja thAya che. tenuM pachI Avate bhave DiscArja thAya che, te vakhate te 'IphekTiva' che. A mana-vacana-kAyA traNeya 'IphekTiva' che. 'IphekTa' bhogavatI vakhate bIjA navAM kaoNjhIjha UbhAM thAya che. je AvatA bhave pAchAM 'IphekTiva' thAya che. Ama 'kaoNjhIjha' enDa 'IphekTa', 'IphekTa' enDa kaoNjhIjha ema ghaTamALa niraMtara cAlyA ja kare che.eTale phorenanA sAyanTisTone ya samajAya ke bhaI A rIte punarjanma che ! eTale bahu khuza thaI jAya che ke IphekTa enDa kaoNjhIjha che A ! 13 te A badhI IphekTa che. tame vakIlAta karo, e badhI IphekTa che. IphekTamAM ahaMkAra nA karAya ke 'meM karyuM !' IphekTa to enI meLe ja Ave ! A pANI nIce jAya, e pANI ema nA bole ke 'huM jauM chuM', te dariyA tarapha cAraso mAIla Ama tema cAlIne jAya ja che ne ! ane manuSyo to koIno kesa jItADI Ape to 'meM kevo jItADI Apyo', bole. have eno pote ahaMkAra karyo, te karma baMdhAyuM, kaoNjha thayuM. enuM phaLa pAchuM IphekTamAM Avaze. kAraNa-kArya taNA rahasyo ! IphekTa tame samajI gayA ? enI meLe thayA ja kare te IphekTa. ApaNe parIkSA ApIe ne, e kaoNjha kahevAya. pachI pariNAmanI ciMtA ApaNe karavAnI na hoya. e to IphekTa che. te jagata AkhuM IphekTanI ciMtA kare che. kharekhara to kaoNjha mATe ciMtA karAya ! A vijJAna tane samajAyuM ? vijJAna saiddhAMtika hoya. avirodhAbhAsa hoya. teM bIjhanesa karyo ne be lAkha kamAyo, te kaoNjha che ke IphekTa ? praznakartA : kaoNjhIjha che. 14 zake ? karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : kevI rIte kaoNjhIjha te mane samajAva ? dhAryA pramANe karI praznakartA : tame bIjhanesa karo ane je thavAnuM che e thavAnuM che, e IphekTa thAya. paNa bIjhanesa karavA mATe kaoNjhIjha to karavAM paDe ne ? to bIjhanesa karI zakIene ? dAdAzrI : nA, kaoNjhIjhamAM rileTiva vastu nA vaparAya bIjI. bIjhanesa to zarIra sAruM hoya, magaja sAruM hoya, badhuM hoya tyAre thAya ne ! badhAnA AdhAre je thatuM hoya, e IphekTa ane je mANasa sUto sUto AnuM kharAba thaze, Ama thaze.' e kare e badhuM kaoNjhIjha. kAraNa ke emAM AdhAra ke koI cIjanI jarUra nathI. praznakartA : ApaNe je bIjhanesa karIe chIe, to e IphekTa kahevAya ? dAdAzrI : IphekTa ja kahIe chIe ne ! bIjhanesa e IphekTa ja che. parIkSAnuM pariNAma Ave, emAM kazuM karavuM paDe ? parIkSAmAM karavuM paDe, e kaoNjhIjha kahevAya. kaMI karavuM paDe, te paNa pariNAmamAM kaMI karavuM paDe ? praznakartA : nA. dAdAzrI : ema AmAM kaMI karavuM nA paDe. e badhuM thayA ja kare. ApaNuM zarIra badhuM vaparAya ane thayA ja kare, kaoNjhamAM to potAne karavuM paDe. kartAbhAva che e kaoNjha che. bIjuM badhuM IphekTa che. bhoktAbhAva e kaoNjha che. praznakartA : je bhAva e badhAM kaoNjhIjha, barAbara. dAdAzrI : huM. jyAM bIjA koInI helpanI jarUra nahIM. tame rasoI banAvo pharsTa kalAsa, te badhI ja IphekTa che. ane enI mahIM tame bhAva karo ke 'kevI sarasa rasoI meM banAvI, kevI sarasa banAvI.' e bhAva

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karmanuM vijJAna 15 karmanuM vijJAna tamAro kaoNjha. jo bhAva na karo to badhuM IphekTa ja che. sAMbhaLI zakAya, dekhI zakAya, e badhI IphekTa. kaoNjhIjha dekhI nA zakAya. praznakartA : to pAMca IndriyathI je badhuM thAya e IphekTa. dAdAzrI : hA, A badhI IphekTa che. AkhI lAIpha ja IphekTa che. enI mahIM je bhAva thAya che e bhAva kaoNjha che ane bhAvano kartA hovo joIe. e to kartA che jagatanA loko ! karma baMdhAtA aTakI gayAM eTale thaI gayuM. evuM tamane samajAya kharuM ! tamane karma baMdhAtA aTakatAM haze ? koI dahADo joyuM che e ? zubhamAM paDo to zubha baMdhAya, nahIM to azubha to hoya che ja. karma choDe ja nahIM ! ane "pote koNa che, A badhuM koNa kare che te badhuM jANe, pachI karma baMdhAya ja nahIM ne ! paheluM karma kevI rIte AvyuM ? praznakartA karmanI thIyarI mujaba karma baMdhAya ane eno bhogavaTo karavo paDe. have e rIte ApaNe kaoNjha ane IphekTa kahyA to e paheluM kaoNjha pachI enI IphekTa, to ApaNe tarkanI draSTie vicAra karIe ane pAchAM jatAM jaIe to sahu prathama kaoNjha kevI rIte AvyuM haze ? dAdAzrI : anAdimAM paheluM nA hoya ne ! A mALA tame joyelI goLa ? A sUryanArAyaNa phare to enI biginiMga kyAMthI karatAM haze ? praznakartA ene biginiMga hoya ja nahIM. dAdAzrI : eTale A duniyAnI biginiMga koI jagyAe che nahIM. badhI ja goLa che, rAunDa ja che. AmAM chUTakAro che paNa. biginiMga nathI AnuM ! AtmA che eTale chUTakAro thaI zake che. paNa enI biginiMga nathI, rAunDa che badhuM ya, hareka cIja rAunDa. koI cIja corasa nathI. corasa hoya to ApaNe ene kahIe ke A khUNethI zarU thayuM che ane A khUNe bheguM thayuM. rAunDamAM kyo khuNo ? AkhuM jagata ja rAunDa che emAM buddhi kAma karI zake ema nathI. mATe buddhine kahIe, besa cheTI ! buddhi pahoMcI vaLe ema nathI. jJAnathI samajAya evuM che. IDuM paheluM ke muraghI pahelI. mUA melane pULo. ahIMthI e bAjue mUkIne bIjI AgaLanI vAta karane ! nahIM to IDA ne maraghu thavuM paDaze vAreghaDIe ane choDe nahIM mUo. jenuM samAdhAna nA hoya e badhuM goLa. te ApaNAM loka nahIM kahetAM, goLa goLa vAta kare che A bhaI ! praznakartA : chatAM A prazna rahyA ja kare ke janma pahelA karma kyAMthI ? corAsI lAkha pherA zarU thayA. A pApa-puNya kyAMthI kyArathI zarU thayuM ? dAdAzrI : anAdithI. praznakartA enI zarUAta to kaMIka hoya ne ? dAdAzrI : jyArathI buddhi zarU thaIne tyAMthI zarUAta ane buddhi enDa thAya tyAM pUruM thaI jAya. samaja paDIne ? bAkI che anAdithI ! praznakartA : A je buddhi che te koNe ApI ? dAdAzrI : ApanAruM ja koNa che ? koI ja uparI ja nathI ne ! koI che nahIMne bIjo koI. koI ApanAra hoya to to uparI Tharyo. uparI Tharyo eTale kAyama e ApaNe mAthe rahyo. pachI mokSa hoya ja nahIM, duniyAmAM. uparI hoya tyAM mokSa hoto haze ? praznakartA : paNa sauthI paheluM karma karyuM thayuM ? jene lIdhe A zarIra maLyuM ? dAdAzrI : A zarIra to koIe ApyuM nathI. A cha tattvo badhA bhegA thavAthI, e Ama sAmasAme joInTa thavAthI 'ene' A badhI avasthA utpanna thaI che. te zarIra maLyuM ya nathI. A to tamane dekhAya che te ja bhUla che. bhrAMtithI dekhAya che. A bhrAMti jAyane, to kazuM ya nahIM

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karmanuM vijJAna 17 12 karmanuM vijJAna hoya. A tame je "huM caMdubhAI chuM' evuM jANo cho. tethI A ubhuM thayuM che badhuM ! karmo eka ke aneka bhavatA ? praznakartA : A badhAM karmo che te A eka ja janmamAM bhogavAtAM nathI. eTale aneka janmo levAM paDe chene ene bhogavavA mATe ? jyAM sudhI karmo pUrAM nA thAya tyAM sudhI mokSa kyAM che ? dAdAzrI : mokSanI to vAta kyAM gaI ! e bhavanAM karma jayAre pUrAM thAya tyAre deha chUTe. ane tyAre mahIM bIjA navAM karma baMdhAI ja gayelAM hoya. eTale mokSanI to vAta ja kyAM karavI rahI ? jUnAM, bIjAM kaMI pAchalAM karmo nathI AvatA. tame atyAre hala karmo bAMdhI rahyAM cho. atyAre tame A vAta karo cho ne te ghaDIe paNa puNyakarma bAMdhI rahyA cho. puNyAnubaMdhI puNyakarma bAMdhI rahyA cho. kare koNa te bhogave koNa ? praznakartA : dAdA, gayA bhavamAM je karma karyA e A bhavamAM bhogavavAM paDe, to gayA bhavanI aMdara je dehe bhogavelA e to lAkaDAmAM gayo, AtmA to nirvikAra svarUpa che, e AtmA bIjo deha laIne Ave che. paNa A dehane gayA dehanuM kareluM karma zA mATe bhogavavAnuM ? dAdAzrI : e dehanA karelAM karmo to e deha bhogavIne ja jAya. praznakartA : to ? dAdAzrI : A to citarelAM, e mAnasika karma. sUkSma karmo. eTale jene ApaNe kokala boDI kahIe chIene, kaoNjhIjha. praznakartA : barobara che, paNa e deha bhAva karelAM ne ? dAdAzrI : dehe bhAva nathI karyA. praznakartA : to ? dAdAzrI : dehe to enuM pote phaLa bhogavyuM ne ! be dholo mArI eTale dehane phaLa maLI ja jAya. paNa ene yojanAmAM hatuM, te A rUpakamAM AvyuM. praznakartA : hA, paNa yojanA karI koNe ? pelA dehe yojanA karIne ! dAdAzrI : dehane to levA-devA nahIM ne ! basa, ahaMkAra ja kare che A badhuM. A janmatuM A janmamAM ? praznakartA : A badhA karmonAM phaLa ApaNA A jIvanamAM ja bhogavavAnA ke pachI AvatA janmamAM paNa bhogavavA paDe che ? dAdAzrI : gayA avatAre je karma karelAM, te yojanA rUpe hatA. eTale kAgaLa upara lakhelI yojanA. have e rUpaka rUpe atyAre Ave te phaLa ApavA sanmukha thAya tyAre e prArabdha kahevAya. keTalA kALe pAke, te pacAsa, poNoso, so varSe pAkavA Ave, to phaLa ApavA sanmukha thAya. eTale gayA avatAre karma bAMdhyA, te keTale varSe pAke tyAre ahIM phaLa Ape ane e phaLa ApatI vakhate jagatanA loko zuM kahe ke AmaNe karma bAMdhyuM. ANe A mANasane be dhola mArI dIdhI, ene jagatanA loka zuM kahe ? karma bAMdhyuM eNe. kayuM karma bAMdhyuM ? tyAre kahe, be dhola mArI dIdhI. ene enuM phaLa bhogavavuM paDaze. te ahIM pAchuM maLe ja. kAraNa ke dholo mArI, paNa Aje pelo DhIlo paDI gayo, paNa pharI tAla Ave eTale vera vALyA vagara rahe nahIM ne ! tyAre loko kahe ke jo karmanuM phaLa bhogavyuMne chevaTe ! te AnuM nAma ahIM ne ahIM phaLa bhogavyuM. paNa ApaNe ene kahIe ke tArI vAta sAcI che. AnuM phaLa bhogavavAnuM,

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karmanuM vijJAna to karmanuM vijJAna ane jagatanA loko jene kahe ke A krodha kare che, mAna kare che, ahaMkAra kare che, have enuM phaLa ahIMnuM ahIM ja bhogavavuM paDe che. mAnanuM phaLa ahIMnuM ahIM zuM Ave ke apakIrti phelAya, apayaza phelAya, te ahIM ja bhogavavuM paDe. A mAna karIe te vakhate jo manamAM ema hoya ke A khoTuM thaI rahyuM che, AvuM nA hovuM joIe, ApaNe mAna ogALavAnI jarUra che, evA bhAva hoya to te navuM karma bAMdhe che. tenAM hisAbe Avate bhava pAchuM mAna ochuM thAya. karmanI thiyarI AvI che ! khoTuM thatI vakhate mahIM bhAva pharI jAya to navuM karma tevuM baMdhAya. ne khoTuM kare ne uparathI rAjI thAya ke "AvuM karavA jevuM ja che." te pAchuM navuM karma majabUta thaI jAya, nikAcita thaI jAya. e pachI bhogavye ja chUTako ! AkhuM sAyansa ja samajavA jevuM che. vItarAgonuM vijJAna bahu guhya paNa e be dholo kema mArI eNe ? e zA AdhAre ? e AdhAra ene jaDe nahIM. e to eNe ja mArI kaheze. e udayakarma enI pAse nacAvaDAve A. eTale AgaLa karma karyuM che, te nacAvaDAve che. praznakartA : e je dhola mArI e karmanuM phaLa che, karma nathI, e barobara ne ? dAdAzrI : hA, e karmaphaLa che. eTale udayakarma A ene karAvaDAve che ane e be dhola mArI de che. pachI pelo mAra khAnAra zuM kahe, ke "bhaI, bIjI eka-be Apane ? tyAre kahe "huM kaMI akkala vagarano mUkhkha !" UlTo vaDhe. pelo mAryo te, enuM kAraNa che, beno hisAba hoya ne te hisAbanI bahAra thAya nahIM kazuM ya. eTale A jagata evuM che ke hisAba vastu eka AnA paI sAtheno hisAba che. eTale bhaDakavA jevuM A jagata ja nathI, bilakule ya nirAMte sUI javA jevuM che. tema chatAM bilakula evuM nahIM thaI javuM joIe nIDara ke mane kazuM nahIM thAya ! karmaphaLa - lokabhASAmAM, jJAtItI bhASAmAM! praznakartA : badhuM ahIMnuM ahIM bhogavavAnuM che ema kahe che, te zuM khoTuM che ? dAdAzrI : bhogavavAnuM ahIMnuM ahIM ja che paNa te A jagatanI bhASAmAM. alaukika bhASAmAM eno artha zo thAya ? gayA avatAre karma ahaMkAranuM, mAnanuM baMdhAyeluM hoya, te A avatAramAM enAM badhAM bilDiMga baMdhAtA hoya, to pachI e emAM mAnI thAya. zAthI mAnI thAya che ? karmanA hisAbe e mAnI thAya che. have mAnI thayo, tene jagatanA loka zuM kahe che ke, "A karma bAMdhe che, A AvuM mAna kare che.' jagatanA loko Ane karma kahe che. jyAre bhagavAnanI bhASAmAM to A karmanuM phaLa AvyuM che. phaLa eTale mAna nA karavuM hoya to ya karavuM ja paDe, thaI ja jAya. ke A janmatuM AvatA janmamAM ? praznakartA H to A janmamAM karelAM karmonuM phaLa zuM AvatA janmamAM maLI zake ? dAdAzrI : hA, A bhavamAM nA maLe. praznakartA : to atyAre je ApaNe bhogavIe chIe, e gayA janmanuM phaLa che ? dAdAzrI : hA. AgalAM avatAranuM che ane joDe joDe navA karma AvatAM avatAra mATe baMdhAI rahyA che. eTale navA karma tamAre sArAM karavAM joIe. A to bagaDayuM che paNa AvatuM nA bagaDe, eTaluM jotuM rahevAnuM. praznakartA: atyAre kaLiyuga cAlI rahyo che, atyAre mANasa sArAM karmo to karI zakto nathI, kaLiyuganA prabhAvathI.

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karmanuM vijJAna 21 karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : sArA karmonI jarUra nathI. praznakartA : to zenI jarUra che ? dAdAzrI : mahIM sabhAvanAnI jarUra che. sArA karmo to prArabdha sAruM hoya to thaI zake. nahIM to thaI zake nahIM. paNa sArI bhAvanA to thaI zake, prArabdha sAruM nA hoya to ya. khoTA karmanuM phaLa kyAre ? praznakartA : sArAM ane khoTAM karmanuM phaLa A ja janmamAM ke AvatA janmamAM bhogavavuM paDe che, to tevAM jIvo mokSagatine kaI rIte pAme ? dAdAzrI : karmanA phaLa nukasAna karatA nathI. karmanA bIja nukasAna kare che. mokSe jatAM karmabIja paDatAM baMdha thaI gayA to karmaphaLa ene AMtare nahIM, karmabIja AMtare. bIja zAthI AMtare ? ke te nAkhyuM eTale have eno svAda tuM laIne jA, enuM phaLa cAkhIne jA. e cAkhyA vagara javAya nahIM. eTale e AMtaranAra che, bAkI A karmaphaLa AMtaratA nathI. phaLa to kahe che tuM tArI meLe khAIne cAlyo jA. praznakartA : paNa ApazrIe kahyuM hatuM ke eka Tako paNa karma karyuM hoya to te bhogavavuM ja paDe che ! dAdAzrI : hA, bhogave ja chUTako, bhogavyA vagara cAle nahIM. karmanAM phaLa bhogavatAM ya mokSa thAya evo rasto hoya che. paNa karma bAMdhatI vakhate mokSa nA thAya. kAraNa ke e karma bAMdhatA hoya to haju phaLa khAvA rahevuM paDe ne ! praznakartA : sArA-kharAba karmo ApaNe karIe, te bhogavavAnAM A janmamAM ja hoya che ke pachI AvatAM janmamAM ? dAdAzrI: loko dekhe ke ANe kharAba karma karyuM, ANe corI karI, ANe luccAI karI, ANe dago dIdho, e badhAM ahIM ja bhogavavAnAM ane e karmathI ja rAga-dveSa mahIM utpanna thAya che. enuM AvatAM bhavamAM bhogavavAnuM. pratyeka avatAra pUrva avatAronuM saravaiyuM ! praznakartA : A karmo atyAre che, te anaMta avatAranA che ? dAdAzrI : dareka avatAra, anaMta avatAranA saravaiyA rUpe hoya che. badhA avatAranuM bheguM nA thAya. kAraNa ke niyama evo che ke paripAka kALe phaLa pAkavuM ja joIe, nahIM to keTalA badhAM karmo rahI jAya ! praznakartA : A badhuM gayA janma sAthe saMkaLAyeluM che ne ? dAdAzrI : hA, evuM che ke eka janmamAM be kAma karI zakato nathI, kaoNjhIjha ane IphekTa sAthe nathI karI zakato. kAraNa ke kaoNjhIjha ane IphekTa enI mudata sAthe kevI rIte thAya ? pUrve enI mudata thAya tyAre kaoNjhIjha IphekTIva thAya. mudata vagara nA thAya. jema A AMbo hoya che ne, te ene mora AvyA pachI AvaDI kerI bese, te pAkatAM sudhInI aMdara mudata kharI ke nahIM ? ApaNe bIje dA'De bAdhA rAkhIe ke pAkI jAya, to pAke ? eTale A karma je bAMdhIe chIe, ene pAka karavA mATe so varSa joIe tyAre phaLa ApavA lAyaka sanmukha thAya. praznakartA : eTale A bhavanAM karmo je che, te chellA avatAranAM ja A hoya che ke AgalA anaMta avatAranAM hoya ? dAdAzrI : nA, evuM nathI A kudaratanuM. bahu cokhkhI kudarata to, jevI vepArIone rIta nA AvaDe evI sarasa rIta ! AjathI dasamA avatAra para karma hoyane tenuM saravaiyuM kADhIne te napho-nukasAna AgaLa kheMcI jAya, navamA avatAramAM. have emAM e badhA karmo nahIM AvavAnAM, phakta saravaiyuM kADhIne karmo AvavAnAM. navamAmAMthI AThamAmAM, AThamAmAMthI sAtamAmAM. mahIM Ama jeTalA varSanuM AyuSya hoya pachI A eTalA varSanA karmo hoya. paNa te te tevAM rUpe mahIM Ave, paNa te eka avatAranA ja kahevAya. be avatAranAM bhegA nA kahI zakAya.

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karmanuM vijJAna karma pAkavAne vAra lAge evAM hoya, keTalAMka lokone pAMcaso varSe, hajAra hajAra varSe pAke. to ya paNa AmAM copaDe navuM ja thAya. praznakartA : kerI phoravarDa thaI jAya. 23 dAdAzrI : hA, copaDAnI tamane vastu samajAI ? jUnA copaDAnuM navA copaDAmAM AvI jAya ane have bhaI navA copaDe emAM AvI javAnAM. kazuM bAkI rahyA sivAya. eTale A kaoNjhIjha rUpe karma baMdhAya che te IphekTiva kyAre thAya che ? pacAsa-sAITha-poNoso varSa thAya tyAre phaLa ApavA mATe IphekTiva thAya che ! A badhAMto saMcAlaka koNa ? praznakartA : to A badhuM calAve che koNa ? dAdAzrI : A to badhuM A karmano niyama evo che ke tame je karma karo cho, enAM pariNAma enI meLe kudaratI rIte Ave che. praznakartA : A karmanA phaLa ApaNane bhogavavA paDe. e koNa nakkI kare ? koNa bhogAvaDAve ? dAdAzrI : nakkI karavAnI jarUrata ja nathI. karma 'ITaselpha' karyA kare. enI meLe pote ja thaI jAya che. praznakartA : to pachI karmanA niyamane koNa calAve che ? dAdAzrI : 2H ne 0 bhegA thaI jAya e varasAda thaI jAya, e karmano niyama. praznakartA : paNa koIe ene karyo hazene, e niyama ? dAdAzrI : niyama koI kare nahIM. to to pachI mAlika Thare pAcho. koIne ka2vAnI jarUra nathI. ITaselpha pajhala thayeluM che ane te vijJAnanA niyamathI thAya che ane ame 'onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala karmanuM vijJAna eviDansa' thI jagata cAle che ema kahIe chIe ! ene gujarAtImAM kahyuM ke 'vyavasthita zakti' jagata calAve che. 'vyavasthita zakti' ane karma ! 24 praznakartA : Apa je vyavasthita' kaho cho te karma pramANe che ? dAdAzrI : karmathI kaMI jagata cAlatuM nathI. jagata 'vyavasthita zakti' calAve che. tamane ahIM koNa teDI lAvyuM ? karma ? nA. tamane 'vyavasthita' teDI lAvyuM. karma to mahIM paDyuM ja hatuM. te gaI kAle kema nA teDI lAvyuM ne Aje lAvyuM ? 'vyavasthita' kALa bhego kare, bhAva bhego kare. badhAM ja saMyogo bhegA thayA, te tuM ahIM Avyo. karma to 'vyavasthita'no eka aMza che. A to saMjoga bAjhe tyAre kahe, meM karyuM' ane saMjoga nA bAjhe tyAre ?! phaLa maLe oTomeTika ! praznakartA : karmanuM phaLa bIjo koI Ape to pAchuM e karma ja thayuM ? dAdAzrI : karmanuM phaLa bIjo koI Ape ja nahIM. karmanuM phaLa koI ApanAro janmyo nathI. phakta ahIMyA AgaLa mAMkaNa mAravAnI davA pI jAya eTale marI ja jAya, emAM vacce phaLa ApanAranI koI jarura nathI. phaLa ApanAra hoya ne to to bahu moTI ophisa karavI paData. A to sAyanTiphika rIte cAle che. koInI jarura nathI vacce ! karma enuM paripakva thAya che eTale phaLa ApIne UbhuM ja rahe che, pote potAnI meLe ja. jema A kAcI kerIo to enI meLe pAke che ne ! nathI pAkatI ? praznakartA : hA, hA. dAdAzrI : AMbA upara nathI pAkatI ? hA. sAkha thAya che ne, evI rIte A karma pAke che, eno TAIma Avene tyAre pAkIne taiyAra thaIne phaLa ApavAne mATe lAyaka thAya.

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna praznakartA : gayA bhavamAM je ApaNe karmo karyA, A bhavamAM enuM phaLa AvyuM, to A badhA karmono hisAba koNa rAkhe che ? eno copaDo koNa rAkhe che ? dAdAzrI : ThaMDI paDe che, tyAre pAIpanI aMdara pANI hoya che te barapha koNa karI nAkhe che ? e ThaMDuM vAtAvaraNa thayuM eTale. onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa. A badhuM karmo-barmo kare che te. tenuM phaLa Ave che te ya eviDansa che. tane bhUkha koNa lagADe che ? badhuM sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa che. enAthI badhuM cAle che ! karmaphaLamAM "orDara'no AdhAra ! praznakartA : kayA orDaramAM karmonuM phaLa Ave che ? jevAM orDaramAM e enuM baMdhAyuM hoya, evAM ja orDaramAM enuM phaLa Ave ? eTale pahelAM A karma bAMdhyuM, pachI A karma bAMdhyuM, pachI A karma bAMdhyuM. eka naMbaranuM karma A bAMdhyuM, to enuM DiscArja paNa pachI paheluM e ja Ave. pachI be naMbaranuM bAMdhyuM, enuM DiscArja bIjA naMbare Ave, evuM che ? dAdAzrI : nA, evuM nahIM. praznakartA : haM, to kevuM che e jarA samajAvo. dAdAzrI : nA, evuM nahIM. e badhA enA svabhAva pramANe badhuM goThavAI jAya ke divase bhogavavAnAM ka, A rAtre bhogavavAnAM karmo, A badhAM..... ema goThavAI jAya. A che te du:khamAM bhogavavAnAM karmo, A sukhamAM bhogavavAnAM karma, e goThavAI jAya. e badhuM goThavaNI thaI jAya enI ! praznakartA : A karma navuM che ke jUnuM che, e zI rIte dekhAya ? dAdAzrI : karma karyuM ke nA karyuM, e to koInAthI nA dekhAya. e to bhagavAna ke jemane kevaLajJAna che te ja jANI zake. A jagatamAM je tamane karmo dekhAya che, temAM eka rAI jeTaluM paNa karma navuM nathI. A karmonA jJAtA-draSTA raho to navuM karma nA thAya ne tanmayAkAra raho to navuM karma baMdhAya. AtmajJAnI thAya tyAra pachI ja karma nA baMdhAya. A jagatamAM AtmA dekhAto nathI, karma ya dekhAtA nathI paNa karmaphaLa dekhAya che. lokone karmaphaLa Ave temAM 'TesTa' paDe eTale temAM tanmayAkAra thaI jAya, tenAthI bhogavavuM paDe. atyAre mUA kyAMthI ?' praznakartA : ghaNI vakhate ema thAya ke ApaNe azubha karma bAMdhatA hoIe ane te vakhate udaya che to bahAra zubha karmono hoya ! dAdAzrI : hA. evuM bane. atyAre tamAre zubha karmano udaya hoya paNa mahIM azubha karma bAMdhatA ho. tame bahAragAmathI ahIM sITImAM AvyA hoya ne rAte moDuM thaI gayuM hoya to mahIM thAya ke ApaNe kyAM sUI jaIzuM ? te pachI tame kaho ke ahIMyA mArA eka mitra rahe che, tyAM ApaNe jaIe. eTale cAra jaNa e ne tame pAMcamAM, sADA agiyAra vAge pelAM mitrane tyAM jaIne bAraNuM ThokyuM. e koNa ? tyAre kahe, 'huM.' tyAre kahe, 'ughADuM." e bAraNuM ughADe pachI zuM kahe ApaNane ? pAMca jaNa dekhe. ApaNane ekalAne nA dekhe, cAra-pAMca jaNane dekhe eTale ApaNane zuM kahe ? 'pAchA jAva' evuM kahe ? zuM kahe ? 'Avo, padhAro!! ApaNAM to khAnadAna loko 'Avo, padhAro' kahIne besADe. praznakartA : e goThavaNI kayA AdhAra para thAya ? dAdAzrI : svabhAvanA AdhAre. ApaNe badhA bhegAM thAya, to badhAM svabhAvane maLatAM AvatAM hoya to ja bheguM thAya. nahIM to thAya nahIM. kevaLajJAtamAM ja e dekhAya !

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karmanuM vijJAna 28 karmanuM vijJAna praznakartA : e eme ya kahe, kyAre AvyA ne kyAre javAnAM ? dAdAzrI : nA. khAnadAna evuM nA bole. te 'Avo, padhAro' karIne besADe paNa enA manamAM zuM thatuM hoya ? ke atyAre kyAMthI mUA ! e karma. e karavAnI jarUra nathI. e AvyA che, eno hisAba haze tyAM sudhI raheze. pachI jatAM raheze. eNe jo A DahApaNa karyuM e, "atyAre kyAMthI mUA' e karma bAMdhyuM. have e karma bAMdhyuM tyAre mane pUchavuM" tuM ke AvuM thaI jAya che mAre, to zuM karavuM ? tyAre huM kahuM, ke te ghaDIe kRSNa bhagavAnane mAnato hoya, game tene mAnato hoya temanuM nAma laI "he bhagavAna ! mArI bhUla thaI" AvuM pharI nahIM karuM. evI mAphI mAMga eTale bhUMsAI jAya. bAMdheluM karma tarata ne tarata bhUMsAI jAya. jyAM sudhI kAgaLa posTamAM nA nAkhIe, pheraphAra thaI zake. posTamAM paDI gayo eTale ke A deha chUTI gayo, pachI baMdhAI gayuM. deha chUTe e pahelAM che te ApaNe badhuM bhUMsI nAkhIe to bhUMsAI jAya. have eka to pelAe karma to bAMdhyuM ne ? have pachI pAchAM tane zuM kahe che ? 'caMdubhAI ATalI ATalI." zuM bolyA ATalI te ? te kophI ke cA kaMI bole nahIM, paNa ApaNe samajI jaIe ke cAnuM kahe che. paNa e "ATalI thoDIka thoDIka....' eTale tame kaho, atyAre rahevA do ne cA-bA atyAre khIcaDI-kaDhI haze to cAlaze. te mahIM bairA pachI kUdAkUda. e karma baMdhAyA badhA. have te ghaDIe A kudaratano kAyado che. te hisAbe Avyo che, to ene mATe bhAva nahIM bagADavAno. AvAM niyamamAM rahe ne bhale khIcaDI ne kaDhI, je ApaNI pAse hoya e ApavuM. pelAM evuM nathI kahetAM ke tame bAsuMdI khavaDAvo. khIcaDI-kaDhI, zAka je hoya te pIraso. A to pAchAM Abaru jatI rahe eTalAM hAruM A pAcho khIcaDI-kaDhI nA mUke bIjuM zIro ke kazuM mUke. paNa aMdara manamAM pAchI gALo bhAMDe. atyAre kyAMthI mUA ! e enuM nAma karma. eTale AvuM nA hovuM joIe. mATe na bagADo bhAva kadi ! praznakartA : puNyakarma ne pApakarma kevI rIte baMdhAya ? dAdAzrI : bIjAne sukha ApavAno bhAva karyo, enAthI puNya baMdhAya ane duHkha ApavAno bhAva karyo, enAthI pApa baMdhAya. mAtra bhAvathI ja karma baMdhAya che, kriyAthI nahIM. kriyAmAM evuM hoya ke nA paNa hoya, paNa bhAvamAM jevuM hoya tevuM karma baMdhAya. mATe bhAvane bagADazo nahI. koI paNa kArya svArtha bhAve kare tyAre pApakarma baMdhAya ane niHsvArtha bhAve kare tyAre puNyakarma baMdhAya. paNa banne ya karma che ne ! peluM puNyakarmanuM phaLa che te sonAnI beDI ane pApakarmanuM phaLa loDhAnI beDI. paNa beu beDIo ja che ne ? sthULakarma : sUkSmakarma ! eka zeThe pacAsa hajAra rUpiyA dAnamAM ApyAM. te tenA mitre tene pUchyuM, 'ATalA badhA rUpiyA ApI dIdhA ?" tyAre zeTha bolyA, 'huM to eka paiso ya ApuM tevo nathI. A to A meyaranAM dabANane laIne ApavA paDyAM.' have AnuM phaLa tyAM zuM maLe ? pacAsa hajAra dAna karyuM. te sthULakarma, te tenuM phaLa ahIMnuM ahIM zeThane maLI jAya. loko "vAha vAha' bolAve. kIrti gAya ane zeThe mahIM, sUkSmakarmamAM zuM cArja karyuM ? tyAre kahe "eka paiso ya ApuM tevo nathI.' tenuM phaLa AvatA bhavamAM maLe. te AvatA bhave zeTha paiso ya dAnamAM ApI nA zake. have AvI jhINI vAta kone samajAya ? tyAM bIjo koI garIba hoya, tenI pAse paNa e ja loko gayA hoya dAna levA, tyAre e garIba mANasa zuM kahe ke, "mArI pAse to atyAre pAMca ja rUpiyA che te badhA ya laI lo. paNa atyAre jo mArI pAse pAMca lAkha hota to te badhA ya ApI deta !" Ama dIlathI kahe.

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna have ANe pAMca ja rUpiyA ApyA, te DiscArjamAM karmaphaLa AvyuM. paNa mahIM sUkSmamAM zuM cArja karyuM ? pAMca lAkha rUpiyA ApavAnA, te AvatA bhave pAMca lAkha ApI zakaze, DiscArja thaze tyAre. eka mANasa dAna ApyA karato hoya, dharmanI bhakti karyA kare, maMdiromAM paisA Ape, bIjuM badhuM Akhoya dahADo dharma karyA karato hoya, tene jagatanA loka zuM kahe ke A dharmiSTha che. have e mANasanAM aMdarakhAne zuM vicAra hoya ke kema karIne bheguM karuM ne kema karIne bhogavI lauM ! aMdara to ene aNahakkanI lakSmI paDAvI levAnI IcchA bahu hoya. aNahakkanAM viSaya bhogavI levAmAM ja taiyAra hoya ! eTale bhagavAna eno eka paiso ya jame karatAM nathI. enuM zuM kAraNa ? kAraNa e ke dAna-dharma-kriyA e badhAM sthULakarma che. e sthULakarmanuM phaLa ahIMnuM ahIM ja maLI jAya che. loko A sthULakarmane ja AvatA bhavanAM karma mAne che. paNa enuM phaLa to ahIMnuM ahIM ja maLI jAya che ane sUkSmakarma ke je aMdara baMdhAI rahyuM che, jenI lokone khabara ja nathI. tenuM phaLa AvatA bhave maLe che ! Aje koI mANase corI karI, te corI e sthULakarma che. tenuM phaLa A bhavamAM ja maLI jAya che. jema ke ene apajaza maLe, polIsavALo mAre vigere te badhuM phaLa, ene ahInuM ahIM maLI ja javAnuM. eTale Aje sthULakarma dekhAya che, sthaLa AcAra dekhAya che te 'tyAM' kAma lAge nahIM. 'tyAM' to sUkSma bhAva zuM che ? sUkSmakarma zuM che ? eTaluM ja 'tyAM' kAma lAge. have jagata AkhuM sthULakarma upara ja eDajasTa thaI gayuM che. A sAdhu-sanyAsIo badhA tyAga kare, tapa kare, japa kare, paNa e to badhuM dhULakarma che. emAM sUkSmakarma kayAM che ? A dekhAya che emAM AvatA bhava mATenuM sUkSmakarma nathI. A kare che e sthULakarmanA, emane jaza ahIM ja maLI jAya. kriyA nahIM paNa dhyAnathI cArjiMga ! AcArya mahArAja pratikramaNa kare, sAmAyika kare, vyAkhyAna Ape, pravacana kare, paNa e to emano AcAra che, e sthULakarma che. paNa mahIM zuM e jovAnuM che. mahIM je cArja thAya che, te 'tyAM' kAma lAgaze. atyAre je AcAra pALe che, e DiscArja che. Akho bAhyAcAra ja DiscArja svarUpa che. tyAM A loko kahe ke "meM sAmAyika karyuM, dhyAna karyuM, dAna karyuM.' te eno tane jaza ahIM maLaze. temAM AvatA bhavane zuM levAdevA ? bhagavAna evI kaMI kAcI mAyA nathI ke tArA AvAM polane cAlavA de. bahAra sAmAyika karato hoya ne mahIM zuM ya karato hoya. eka zeTha sAmAyika karavA beThA hatA, te bahAra koIe bAraNuM ThokyuM. zeThANIe jaIne bAraNuM kholyuM. eka bhAI AvelA. temaNe puchayuM, zeTha kyAM gayA che ?" tyAre zeThANIe javAba Apyo, 'DheDavADe.' zeThe mahIM rahyA rahyA A sAMbhaLyuM ne aMdara tapAsa karI to kharekhara e DheDavADe ja gayelA hatA ! aMdara to kharAba vicAro ja cAlatA hatA te sUryamakarma ne bahAra sAmAyika karatA hatA, te sthULakarma. bhagavAna AvAM polane cAlavA nA de, aMdara sAmAyika rahetuM hoya ne bahAra sAmAyika nA paNa hoya to tenuM 'tyAM' cAle. A bahAranA ThaThArA 'tyAM cAle evAM nathI. mahIM pheravo bhAva Ama ! sthULakarma eTale tane ekadama gusso Avyo, tyAre gusso nathI lAvavo chatAM te Ave. evuM bane ke nA bane ? praznakartA : bane. dAdAzrI : e gusso Avyo, enuM phaLa ahIMnuM ahIM tarata maLI jAya. loko kahe ke "javA do ne ene, e to che ja bahu krodhI.' koI vaLI ene sAmI dhola paNa mArI de. eTale apajazanuM ke bIjI rIte ene ahIMnuM ahIM phaLa maLI jAya. eTale gusso thavo e sthULakarma che

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karmanuM vijJAna ane gusso Avyo tenI mahIM Ajano tAro bhAva zuM che ke gusso karavo ja joIe. te AvatAM bhavano pharI gussAno hisAba che ane tAro Ajano bhAva che ke gusso nA karavo joIe. tArA manamAM nakkI hoya ke gusso nathI ja karavo, chatAM paNa thaI jAya che to tane AvatAM bhava mATe baMdhana nA rahyuM. 31 A sthULakarmamAM tane gusso thayo, to teno tAre A bhavamAM mAra khAvo paDaze. tema chatAM paNa tane baMdhana nahIM thAya. kAraNa sUkSmakarmamAM tAro nizcaya che ke gusso nA ja karavo joIe ane koI mANasa koInI upare ya gusse nathI thato. chatAM manamAM kaheze ke A lokonI upara gusso karIe to ja e sIdhA thAya evAM che. te AnAthI AvatA bhave pAcho gussAvALo thaI jAya ! eTale bahAra je gusso thAya che, te sthULakarma che ne te vakhate mahIM je bhAva thAya che, te sUkSmakarma che. sthULakarmane bilakula baMdhana nathI, jo A samaje to ! tethI A sAyansa meM navI rIte mUkyuM che. atyAra sudhI sthULakarmathI baMdhana che evuM jagatane ThasAvI dIdhuM che ane tethI loko bhaDaka bhaDaka thAya che. A jJAte saMsAra sAthe mokSa ! have gharamAM strI hoya, paiNyA hoya ane mokSe javuM che, te manamAM thayA kare ke huM paiNyo chuM, te have zI rIte mokSe javAya ? alyA, strI nathI naDatI, tArA sUkSmakarma naDe che. A tArA sthULakarma koI naDatA nathI. e meM opana karyuM che ane A sAyansa opana nA karuM to mahIM bhaDakATa, bhaDakATa, bhaDakATa rahe. mahIM ajaMpo, ajaMpo, ajaMpo rahe. pelA sAdhuo kahe ke ame mokSe jaIzuM. alyA, tame zI rIte mokSe javAnA cho te ? zuM choDavAnuM che, te to tame jANatAM nathI. tame to sthULane choDayuM. AMkhe dekhAya, kAne saMbhaLAya e choDyuM. enuM phaLa to A bhavamAM ja maLI jaze. A sAyansa navI ja jAtanuM che ! A to akrama vijJAna che. jenAthI A lokone badhI rIte phesIliTI thaI paDe. kaMI bairI choDIne nAsI javAya ? ane bairI choDIne nAsI jaIe ane ApaNo mokSa thAya e banne karmanuM vijJAna kharuM ? ko'kane duHkha daIne ApaNo mokSa thAya e bane kharuM ? eTale bairI-chokarAMnI pharajo badhI ja bajAvo ane strI je 'jamavA'nuM Ape, te nirAMte khAva e badhuM sthULa che. e samajI jajo. sthULanI pAchaLa tamAro abhiprAya evo nA rahevo joIe ke jethI karIne sUkSmamAM cArja thAya. eTalA mATe meM tamane pAMca vAkyo AjJA rUpe ApyAM che. mahIM abhiprAya evo nA rahevo joIe ke A karekTa che, huM je karuM chuM, je bhogavuM chuM, e karekTa che. evo abhiprAya nA hovo joIe. basa ATalo ja tamAro abhiprAya pharyo ke badhuM pheraphAra thaI gayuM. A rIte pheravo bALakone ! 32 chokarAmAM kharAba guNo hoya to mA-bApa tene TaiDakAve che ane kahetA phare ke 'mAro chokaro to Avo che, nAlAyaka che, cora che.' alyA, e evuM kare che, te karelAne melane pULo. paNa atyAre enAM bhAva pheravane ! enAM mahIMnA abhiprAya pheravane ! enAM bhAva kema pheravavA, te mA-bApane AvaDatuM nathI. kAraNa ke sarTiphAIDa mA-bApa nathI ane mA-bApa thaI gayA che ! chokarAne corInI kuTeva paDI gaI hoya to mAbApa tene TaiDakAva TaiDakAva kare. mAra mAra kare. Ama mA-bApa eksesa bole haMmezA ekasesa boleluM helpa nA kare. eTale chokaro zuM kare ? manamAM nakkI kare ke 'cho ne bolyAM kare. ApaNe to evuM karavAnAM ja.' te A chokarAne mA-bApa vadhAre cora banAve che. dvApara ne tretA ne satyugamAM je hathiyAro hatAM, te Aje kaLiyugamAM lokoe vAparavA mAMDyA. chokarAne pheravavAnI rIta judI che. enA bhAva pheravavAnA. enA para premathI hAtha pheravIne kahevuM ke 'Ava beTA, cho tArI bA bUmAbUma karatI. e bUmAbUma kare, paNa te AvI rIte koInI corI karI tema koI tArA gajavAmAMthI corI kare to tane sukha lAge ? te vakhate tane mahIM kevuM duHkha thAya ? ema sAmAne ya duHkha nA thAya ?! tevI AkhI thiyarI chokarAne samajAvavI paDe. eka vakhata tene ThasI javuM joIe ke A khoTuM che, tame ene mAramAra karo cho, enAthI to chokarA haThe caDe che. khAlI

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karmanuM vijJAna rIta ja pheravavAnI. jagata AkhuM sthULakarmane ja samajyuM che. sUkSmakarmane samajyuM ja nathI. sUkSmane samajyuM hota to A dazA nA hota ! cArja ane DiscArja karma ! 33 praznakartA : sthULakarma ane sUkSmakarmanA kartA judA judA che ? dAdAzrI : baMnenAM kartA judA che. A je sthULa karyo che, te DiscArja karyo che. A beTarIo hoya ne, tene cArja karyA pachI DiscArja thayA kare ne ? ApaNe DiscArja nA karavI hoya to ya te thayA ja kare ne ? praznakartA : hA. dAdAzrI : evuM A sthULa karmo e DiscArja karyo che ne bIjA mahIM navA cArja thaI rahyAM che te sUkSma karyo che. A bhavamAM je cArja thaI rahyAM che te AvatA bhavamAM DiscArja thayA karaze ane A avatAramAM gayA avatAranI beTarIo DiscArja thayA kare che, eka mananI beTarI, eka vANInI beTarI ane eka dehanI beTarI - A traNeya beTarIo atyAre DiscArja thayAM ja kare che ane mahIM navI traNa beTarIo bharAI rahI che. A boluM chuM, te tane ema thAya ke 'huM' ja boluM chuM. paNa nA, A to rekarDa bolI rahI che. A to vANInI beTarI DiscArja thaI rahI che. huM bolato ja nathI ane A badhA jagatanAM loko zuM kahe ke 'meM kevI vAta karI, kevuM huM bolyo !' e badhA kalpita bhAvo che, IgoIjhama che. khAlI e IgoIjhama (ahaMkAra) jAya to pachI bIjuM kazuM rahyuM ? A IgoIjhama e ja ajJAnatA che ane e ja bhagavAnanI mAyA che. kAraNa ke kare che bIjA ne potAne evuM eDajasTamenTa thAya che ke 'huM ja karuM chuM !' A sUkSmakarmo je mahIM cArja thAya che, te pachI kompyuTaramAM jAya che. eka vyaSTi kompyuTara che ne bIju samaSTi kompyuTara che. te vyaSTimAM pahelAM sUkSmakarmo jAya ne tyAMthI pachI samaSTi kompyuTaramAM jAya. pachI karmanuM vijJAna samaSTi kAma karyA kare. 'huM caMdubhAI chuM' ema riyalI spikIMga bolavuM e ja karma baMdhAya che. 'huM koNa chuM' eTaluM ja jo samajyo to tyArathI badhAM ja karmothI chUTyA. eTale A vijJAna saraLa ne sIdhuM mUkyuM che, nahIM to karoDo upAye ebsolyuTa thavAya evuM nathI ane A to tadana ebsolyuTa thiyarama che. karma - karmaphaLa - karmaphaLa pariNAma ! praznakartA : gayA bhavanAM karmo je che cArja thayelAM, e DiscArjarUpe A bhavamAM Ave che. to A bhavanAM je karmo che, e A bhavamAM ja DiscArjarUpe Ave ke nahIM ? dAdAzrI : nA. praznakartA : to kyAre Ave ? dAdAzrI : gayA avatAranAM kaoNjhIjha che ne te A avatAranI IphekTa che. A avatAranA kaoNjhIjha AvatA avatAranI IphekTa che. 34 praznakartA : paNa keTalAMka karmo evAM hoya che ne ke ahIMyA ne ahIMyA bhogavI levAnAM hoya che ne, Ape evuM kahyuM che, eka vakhata. dAdAzrI : e to A jagatanAM lokone evuM lAge. jagatanAM lokone zuM lAge '........ jo, hoTalamAM bahu khAto hato ne te maraDo thaI gayo.' hoTalomAM khAto hato e karma bAMdhyA, tethI A maraDo thaI gayo kaheze. tyAre jJAnIo zuM kahe, e hoTalamAM zA mATe khAto hato ? e koNe zIkhavADyuM ene hoTalamAM khAvAnuM ? kevI rIte banyuM ? saMjogo UbhA thaI gayA. pahelAM je yojanA karelI, te A yojanA AvI eTale e hoTalamAM gayo. e javAnAM saMjogo badhAM bhegA thaI jAya. eTale have chUTavuM hoya to chUTAya nahIM. enAM manamAM ema thAya ke sAluM AvuM kema thatuM haze ?! te ahIMnA bhrAMtivALAne ema lAge ke A kAma karyuM eTale A

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karmanuM vijJAna 35 36 karmanuM vijJAna thayuM. bhrAMtivALA evuM samaje ke ahIM karma bAMdhe che ke ahIM bhogave. evuM samaje. paNa A zodhakhoLa nahIM karelI ke ene nathI javuM to ya zI rIte jAya che ? ene zI rIte nathI javuM chatAM e kayA kAyadAthI jAya che, te hisAba che. te ApaNe vadhArAnuM zIkhavADIe chIe ke A chokarAne mAra-mAra nA karazo vagara kAmanuM, pharI bhAva nA kare evuM karo. pharI yojanA na kare evuM karo. corI e kharAba che.... hoTalamAM khAvuM e kharAba che, evuM ene jJAna utpanna thAya evuM karo. eTale pharIthI Avate bhava evuM bane nahIM. A to mAra-mAra kare ne chokarAne kaheze, "jo nahIM javAnuM tAre', to enuM mana avaLuM phare che, e chone kahe, ApaNe to javAnAM, basa. UlTo haThe caDhe ne tethI ja A karmo UMdhA thAya che ne ! mA-bApa UMdhA karAvaDAve che. praznakartA : je AgalAM bhAva karyA hatA eTale hoTalamAM gayo, have hoTalamAM gayo, pachI tyAM khAdhuM ane pachI maraDo thayo, A badhuM DiscArja saMcita karmane AdhAre, atyAre mahIM khUba nA che chatAM ya hoTalamAM jaIne khAI Ave che te prArabdha karma ane enuM pharI pAchuM A bhavamAM ja pariNAma Ave ne maraDo thaI jAya e kriyamANa karma ! hoTalamAM khAya tyAre majA AvI te vakhate ya bIja nAkhe che ane maraDo thAya tyAre bhogavatI vakhate ya pharI bIja nAkhe che. eTale karmaphaLa vakhate ane karmaphaLa pariNAma vakhate, be bIja nAkhe che. saMcita, prArabdha te kriyamANakarma ! praznakartA e badhuM pUrvabhavanA saMcitakarma upara AdhArita che ?' dAdAzrI : evuM che ne saMcita karmane e badhA zabdo samajavAnI jarura che. eTale saMcitakarmo e kaoNjhIjha che ane prArabdhakarma e saMcitakarmanI IphekTa che ane IphekTanuM phaLa tarata ja maLe e kriyamANakarma ane saMcitakarmanuM phaLa pacAsa-sATha-so varSa pachI eno kALa paripakva thAya tyAre maLe. saMcitakarmanuM A phaLa che. saMcitakarma phaLa ApatI vakhate saMcita nA kahevAya. phaLa ApatI vakhate prArabdhakarma kahevAya. enA e ja saMcita karma jyAre phaLa ApavA taiyAra thAya, tyAre e prArabdhakarma kahevAya. saMcita eTale peTImAM mUkelI thokaDIo. e je thokaDI bahAra kADhIe e prArabdha. eTale prArabdhano artha zuM ke je phaLa ApavA sanmukha thayuM te prArabdha ane phaLa ApavA sanmukha nahIM thayuM, haju to keTalAMya kALa pachI phaLa Apaze tyAM sudhI e saMcita badhA. saMcita paDI rahelA hoya badhA. dhIme dhIme ukela Avato jAya, tema tema phaLa Ape. ane kriyamANa te AMkhe dekhAya che. pAMca indriyathI anubhavamAM Ave che te kriyamANa karma. eTale A traNa rIte oLakhAya karma. loko kahe juone, Ane be dhola mArI dIdhI. dhola mAranArane dekhe, dhola khAnArane dekhe, te A kriyamANakarma. have kriyamANakarma eTale zuM? phaLa ApavA je sanmukha thayuM te A phaLa. pelAne phaLa evuM AvyuM ke be dholo dAdAzrI : e hoTalamAM gayo e DiscArja che ane peluM maraDo thayo te ya DiscArja che. DiscArja potAnAM tAbAmAM nA rahe, kaMTrola nA rahe, AuTa opha kaMTrola thaI jAya. - have ekkekTa jo karmanI thiyarI kone kahevAya evuM jo samaje, to e mANasa puruSArtha dharmane samajI zake. A jagatanA loko jene karma kahe che, ene karmanI thiyarI karmaphaLa kahe che. hoTalamAM khAvAno bhAva thAya che. pUrvabhave karma bAMdhyuM hatuM, tenA AdhAre khAya che. tyAM e karma kahevAya. e karmanA AdhAre A bhavamAM e hoTalamAM khA khA kare che. e karmaphaLa AvyuM kahevAya ane A maraDo thayo, ene jagatanA loko karmaphaLa AvyuM evuM mAne. tyAre karmanI thiyarI zuM kahe che A maraDo thayo, e karmaphaLanuM pariNAma AvyuM. vedAMtanI bhASAmAM hoTalamAM khAvA kheMcAya che te pUrve bAMdhelA

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna ApI dIdhI. ane pelAne phaLa evuM AvyuM te be dholo khAdhI. have e kriyamANanuM pAchu phaLa Ave. to pelI dhola mArI eTale pachI manamAM rIsa rAkhe ke mArA lAgamAM Ave te ghaDIe joI laIza. eTale pachI pAchuM e eno badalo Ape ! ane pachI navA pAchAM bIja paDatA ja jAya. navA bIja to nAkhato ja jAya mahIM. bAkI saMcita ekalA to ema ne ema paDI rahelo, sTokamAM rahelo mAla. puruSArtha e vastu judI che. kriyamANa to prArabdhanuM rijhalTa che, prArabdhanuM phaLa che. praznakartA : A puruSArthane Apa karmayoga kaho cho? dAdAzrI : karmayoga samajavo joIe. karmayoga je bhagavAne lakhyo ane loko jene karmayoga kahe che e bemAM AkAza-pAtALa jeTalo phera che. puruSArtha eTale karmayoga kharo, paNa karmayoga kevo ? ona pepara. yojanA, e karmayoga kahevAya. e karmayoga je thayo, e pachI hisAba paDayo enuM phaLa e saMcita kahevAya ane saMcita e ya che te yojanAmAM ja che, paNa jyAre phaLa ApavA sanmukha thAya tyAre prArabdha kahevAya ane prArabdha phaLa Ape tyAre kriyamANa UbhA thAya. puSya hoya to kriyamANa sAruM thAya, pApa Ave tyAre kriyamANa avaLA thAya. ajANye karelAM karmonuM phaLa kharuM? praznakartA : jANIne karelo gunAno doSa keTalo lAge ? ane ajANyA karelI bhUlono keTalo doSa lAgato haze ? ajANamAM karelI bhUlone mAphI thatI haze ne ? dAdAzrI : koI kaMI evA gAMDA nathI ke AvuM mApha kare. tamArA ajANapaNAthI koI mANasa marI gayo. koI kaMI navaro nathI ke mApha karavA Ave. have ajANatAthI devatAmAM hAtha paDe to zuM thAya ? praznakartA : dAjhI javAya. dAdAzrI : tarata phaLa ! ajANathI karo ke jANIne karo. praznakartA : ajANamAM karelI bhUlone A rIte bhogavavI paDe, to jANyA pachI keTaluM bhogavavuM paDe ? dAdAzrI : hA, eTale e ja huM tamane samajAyuM ke ajANathI karelA karma, e kevI rIte bhogavavAnA ? tyAre kahe, eka mANase bahu puNyakarma karyA hoya. rAjA thavAnA puNyakarma karyA paNa ajANamAM karyA hoya, samajIne nahIM. lokone joI joIne evAya karma pote karyA. te pachI samajayA vagara rAjA thAya evA karmo bAMdhe che. have e pAMca varSanI uMmare rAjA gAdI para Avyo hoya. phAdhara opha thaI gayA eTale ane 11me varSe ene che te cha varSa rAja karavAnuM hatuM, te 11 varSa chUTo karyo. have bIjA mANasane 28 varSe ja rAjA thayo ane 34 varSa chUTo thayo. emAM koNe vadhAre sukha bhogavyuM ? cha varSa beune rAja maLyuM. praznakartA : 28 varSe Avyo ne e 34 varSe gayo e. dAdAzrI : eNe jANIne puNya bAMdheluM, tethI A jANIne bhogavyuM. pelAe ajANyA puNya kareluM, te ajANe bhogavyuM. evuM ajANyA pApa bAMdho to ajANathI bhogavAI jAya ane ajANyuM puNya karo to ajANe bhogavAI jAya. majA nA Ave. samajamAM Ave che ne ? ajANe karelA pApa huM tamane samajAvuM. A bAju be vaMdA jatA hatA, moTA-moTA vaMdA ane A bAju A be bhaIbaMdho jatA hatA. te eka bhaIbaMdhano paga che te vaMdA upara paDyo, te vaMdo kacaDAI gayo ane bIjA bhaIbaMdhe vaMdo joyo ke ghasI ghasIne mAryo. beu jaNe zuM kAma karyuM? praznakartA : vaMdAne mAryo. dAdAzrI : baMne khUnI gaNAya, kudaratane tyAM. te vaMdAnA gharanA mANasoe karI phariyAda ke amArA baMnenA dhaNIne A chokarAoe mArI nAkhyA che. banneno guno sarakho che. baMne gunegAra khUnI tarIke ja pakaDAyA. khUna karavAnI rIta judI judI che. paNa have enuM phaLa ApatI

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karmanuM vijJAna vakhate baMnene zuM phaLa maLe che ? tyAre kahe, baMnene be dhola ane cAra gALo evI sajA thaI. have pelo jeNe ajANathI kareluM A badhuM, te mANasa bIje janme majUra tarIke hato. te ene ko'ke be dhola mArI dIdhI 39 ane cAra gALo copaDI dIdhI. te thoDeka cheTe jaIne ke Ama Ama khaMkherI dIdhuM ne pelo bIje janme gAmamAM AgevAna hato, bahu moTo sArAmAM sAro mANasa. ene ko'ke be dhola mArI ane cAra gALo dIdhI, te keTalAMya dahADA sudhI UMghyo nathI e. keTalAM dA'DA bhogavyuM ! A to jANIne mAreluM, pelAe A ajANatA kareluM. mATe samajIne karo A badhuM. je karone e javAbadArI ApaNI che. yu Ara hola enDa sola risponsibala. goDa Ijha noTa risponsibala eTa ola. prArabdha bhogavye ja chUTako ! * praznakartA : mukhya to ApaNA ja karma naDe. dAdAzrI : bIjuM koNa tyAre ! bIju koI karatuM nathI. bahAranuM koI karatuM nathI. tamArA ja karma pajave che tamane. vAIpha DAhI lAve ane pachI gAMDI thaI jAya. te kaMI ko'ke karI ? e ApaNAM ja karmanA udaye e gAMDI thaI jAya. eTale ApaNe e manamAM samajI javAnuM ke mArA ja bhoga che, mArA ja hisAba che ne mAre cUkavI devA che jene tene. AI phasAyA bhaI, AI phasAyA. potAne bhogavyA vagara chUTako nahIM. prArabdha amAre ya bhogavavuM paDe, badhAMne, mahAvIra prabhu hau bhogavatA. bhagavAna mahAvIrane to devaloko herAna karatAM, te ya bhogavatA'tA. moTA moTA devaloko mAMkaNa nAkhatAM hatAM. praznakartA : e emane prArabdha bhogavavAnuM thayuM ne ? dAdAzrI : chUTako ja nahIM ne ! e pote samajatA hatA ke A devaloko kare che tyAre kahe, chatAM prArabdha mAruM che. 40 karmanuM vijJAna kayA karmothI dehane bhogavaTo ? praznakartA : kayA karmanA AdhAre zarIranAM rogo thAya ? dAdAzrI : lUlo-laMgaDo thaI jAya che ne ! hA, te badhuM zuM thayuM che ? e zenuM phaLa che ? e ApaNe kAnano durupayoga karIe to kAnanuM nukasAna thaI jAya. AMkhano durupayoga karIe to AMkha jatI rahe, nAkano durupayoga kare to nAka jatuM rahe, jIbhano durupayoga kare to jIbha kharAba thAya, magajano durupayoga kare to magaja kharAba thAya, pagano durupayoga kare to paga bhAMgI jAya, hAthano durupayoga kare to hAtha tUTI jAya. eTale jeno durupayoga kare te phaLa bhogavavuM paDe, ahIM AgaLa. nirdoSa bALakone kema bhogavavAnuM ? praznakartA : ghaNI vakhata evuM jovAmAM Ave che ke nAnA bALako janme che tyAMthI ja apaMga ne evAM hoya che. pAMgaLA hoya che. keTalAMka nAnA chokarAMo kutubimanAra ne himAlaya darzananI durghaTanAomAM marI jAya che. to kahe, A nAnA nAnA bALakoe zuM pApa kareluM haze, te emane evuM thAya che ? dAdAzrI : pApa kareluM ja, eno hisAba cUkate thayo. eTale doDha varSano thayo, mA-bApa joDe ne badhAno hisAba pUro thayo eTale jato rahyo. hisAba cUkate karavo joIe. A hisAba cUkate karavA mATe Ave che. praznakartA : mA-bApe karelA duSkRtyanuM phaLa ApavA mATe peluM bALaka AveluM hatuM ? dAdAzrI : mA-bApa joDe je hisAba goThavAyelo che. jeTaluM duHkha ApavAnuM hoya to duHkha ApI jAya ane sukha ApavAnuM hoya to sukha ApIne jAya ane eka-be varSano marI jAya, te thoDuMka ja duHkha ApIne jAya ane eka bAvIsa varSano paraNIne marI jAya to vadhAre duHkha Ape.

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna evuM bane ke nA bane ? praznakartA : e to bane, barobara che. dAdAzrI : eTale A du:kha ApavA mATe hoya che ne keTalAMka che te moTI uMmaranA thaIne sukha Ape che. cheka sudhI AkhI jIMdagI sukha Ape che. e duHkha ne sukha ApavA mATe ja badhA sAmasAmI saMbaMdha che ! A rileTiva saMbaMdha che. AjatA kukarmonuM phaLa A bhavamAM ja ? praznakartA: A je karmanuM phaLa Ave che. to dhAro ke dAkhalA tarIke ApaNe ko'kanAM vivAhamAM phAcara mArI. to pachI pAchuM evuM ja phaLa ApaNane AvatA bhavamAM maLe ? ApaNAM vivAhamAM koI e ja mANasa phAcara mAre ? evI rItanuM bane kharuM, karmanuM phaLa ? evAM ja prakAre ane evI DIgrI ? dAdAzrI : nA, A bhavamAM maLe. vivAhamAM phAcara mAro, e to pratyakSa jevuM ja kahevAya ane pratyakSanAM phaLa ahIM ja maLe. praznakartA: ApaNe koInAM vivAhamAM phAcara mArI, te pahelAM ApaNe vivAha karI lIdhAM hoya to kyAMthI maLe ? dAdAzrI : nA, e evuM e ja jAtanuM phaLa maLe, evuM nahIM. e tame enuM je mana dukhADyuM evuM tamAruM mana dukhavAno rasto jaDaze. e to ko'kane choDIo nA hoya, zI rIte phaLa Ape ? bIjA lokonI choDIone phAcara mAre ane potAne choDIo hoya nahIM ! ane A bhavamAM ja karmanuM phaLa maLe. A bhavamAM ja phaLa maLyA vagara rahe nahIM. evuM che ne, parokSa karmanuM phaLa AvatA bhavamAM maLe ane pratyakSanuM phaLa A bhavamAM maLe. praznakartA : parokSa zabdano artha zuM ? dAdAzrI : je ApaNane jaNAtuM nathI te karma. praznakartA : koI mANasanuM dasa lAkha rUpiyAnuM nuksAna karavAnAM meM bhAva karyA hoya to mane evuM ja nukasAna pAchuM maLe ? - dAdAzrI : nA, nukasAna nahIM. e to bIjA rUpamAM, tamAruM eTaluM ja du:kha thAya. jeTaluM duHkha ene tame dhayuM eTaluM ja duHkha tamane thAya. pachI chokaro rUpiyA vAparI nAkhIne duHkhI kare ke game te raste, paNa eTaluM ja duHkha thAya tamane. e badho A hisAba nahIM, bahArano hisAba nahIM. eTale A bhIkhArAM bole che ne badhAM ahIM, rastAmAM bolato'to eka jaNa, 'e to ame bhIkha mAMgIe chIe, te ame ApeluM che, te tame pAchuM Apo cho.' nAguM bole e to, 'tame Apo cho, te ame ApeluM che te Apo cho ane nahIM to ame tamane ApIzuM" kahe che. bemAMthI eka to thAya ! nA, evuM nathI. tame koInI AMtaraDI ThArI, tamArI AMtaraDI ThAraze. tame enI AMtaraDI dukhADI to dukhAze, basa. A badhAM karma chevaTe rAga-dveSamAM jAya che. rAga-dveSanuM phaLa maLe che. rAganuM phaLa sukha ane dveSanuM phaLa duHkha maLaze. praznakartA : A je Ape kahyuM ne ke rAganuM phaLa sukha ane dveSanuM phaLa du:kha to A che to parokSa phaLanI vAta che ke pratyakSa phaLanI ? dAdAzrI : pratyakSa naryuM ! evuM che ne, rAgathI purve baMdhAya ane puNyathI lakSmI maLI. have lakSmI maLI, paNa vaparAtI vakhate pAchuM du:kha ApIne jAya eTale A badhAM sukha je tame lo cho, e lona uparanAM sukha che. mATe jo pharI pemenTa karavAnAM hoya to ja lejo A sukha. hA, to ja sukha cAkhajo, nahIM to cAkhazo nahIM. have ApaNe bharavAnI zakti nathI, have pAchuM pemenTa karavAnI, to e cAkhavAnuM baMdha karI do. bAkI, A lona uparanAM sukha che badhAM. koI paNa prakAranuM sukha e lona upara lIdheluM che. puNyanuM phaLa sukha, paNa sukhe ya lona uparanuM ane pApanuM phaLa duHkha, du:khe ya lona uparanuM. eTale badhuM lona upara che A badhuM. to

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karmanuM vijJAna 43 karmanuM vijJAna sodo nA karavo hoya to nA karazo. tethI puNya ne pApa heya (tyajavA yogya) gaNyuM. praznakartA : A pahelAM ApeluM hoya ane atyAre pAchuM laIe, eTale hisAba cUkate thayo. eTale ene to lona para lIdheluM nA kahevAya ne ? dAdAzrI : atyAre je sukho cAkho cho, e badhAM pAchAM AvelAM nathI, paNa cAkho cho A badhAM. te pemenTa karavuM paDaze. have pemenTa te kevI rIte karavuM paDe ? kerI sarasa khAdhI, to te dahADe khuza thaI gayAM ane sukha utpanna thayuM ApaNane. AnaMdamAM divasa gayo. paNa bIjI vakhate kerI kharAba Avaze, te eTaluM ja du:kha Avaze. paNa jo AmAM sukha nA lo, to e duHkha nahIM Ave. praznakartA : emAM mUrchA na hoya to ? dAdAzrI : to pachI kerI khAvAmAM vAMdho nahIM. sAdho sAsu sAthe sumeLa ! praznakartA : sAsu sAthe mAre khUba athaDAmaNo thAya che, tenAthI zI rIte chUTavuM ? - dAdAzrI : eke eka karmanI mukti thavI joIe. sAsu pajave tyAre eke eka vakhata karmathI mukti maLavI joIe. to te mATe ApaNe zuM karavuM joIe ? sAsune nirdoSa jovA joIe, ke sAsuno to zo doSa ? mArA karmano udaya tethI e maLyA che. e to bicArAM nimitta che. to e karmanI mukti thaI ne jo sAsuno doSa joyo eTale karma vadhyAM, pachI ene to koI zuM kare ? sAmAnA doSa dekhAya to karma baMdhAya ne potAnA doSa dekhAya to karma chUTe ! ApaNe ApaNuM karma baMdhAya nahIM evI rIte rahevuM, A duniyAthI cheTe rahevuM. A karma bAMdhelA tethI to A bhegAM thayelA che. A ApaNAM ghare bhegAM koNa thayelA che ? karmanA hisAba baMdhAyelA che, te ja badhA bhegAM thayAM che ane pachI ApaNane bAMdhIne mAre hau ! ApaNe nakkI karyuM hoya ke mAre enI joDe bolavuM nathI, to ya sAmo AMgaLA ghAlI ghAlIne bolAva bolAva kare. alyA, AMgaLA ghAlIne zuM karavA bolAve che ? AnuM nAma vera ! badhA pUrvanAM vera ! koI jagyAe joyeluM che ke ? praznakartA : badhe e ja dekhAya che ne ! dAdAzrI : tethI huM kahuM chuM ne, ke khasI jAva ane mArI pAse Avo. A huM je pAmyo chuM te tamane ApI dauM, tamAruM kAma thaI jaze ane chUTakAro thaI jaze. bAkI, chUTakAro thAya nahIM. ame koInA doSa nA kADhIe, paNa noMdha karIe ke juo A duniyA zuM che ? badhI rIte A duniyAne meM joyelI, bahu rIte joyelI. koI doSita dekhAya che e ApaNI hajI bhUla che. jayAre tyAre to nirdoSa jovuM paDazene ? ApaNA hisAbathI ja che A badhuM. ATaluM TUMku samajI jAvane, to ya badhuM bahu kAma lAge. jyAM ApaNuM cIkaNuM hoya tyAM ApaNane cIkaNAM karmono udaya Ave ane te ApaNI cIkAza choDAvavA Ave che. badho ja ApaNo hisAba che. koIe gALa bhAMDI to te zuM avyavahAra che ? vyavahAra che. 'jJAnI" to koI gALa bhAMDe to pote rAjI thAya ke baMdhanathI mukta thayA, jyAre ajJAnI dhakkA mAre ne navA karma bAMdhe. sAmo gALo bhAMDe che e to ApaNA ja karmano udaya che, sAmo to nimitta mAtra che. evI jAgRti rahe to navuM karma nA baMdhAya. dareka karma enA nirjarAnuM nimitta laIne AveluM hoya che. konA konA nimitte nirjarA thaze e nakkI hoya che. udayakarmamAM rAga-dveSa nA karavA, enuM nAma dharma. pote ja pADyAM aMtarAyo ? praznakartA: ApaNe satsaMgamAM AvIe chIe to tyAM koI mANasa avarodha kare che. te avarodha ApaNA karmane lIdhe che ?

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karmanuM vijJAna 45 karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : hA. tamArI bhUla nA hoya to koI nAma nA le. tamArI bhUlanA ja pariNAma che. potAnAM ja bAMdhelA aMtarAya karma che. karelAM karmanA hisAba badhAM bhogavavAnA che. praznakartA : e bhUla ApaNe gayA janamamAM karelI ? dAdAzrI : hA, gayA janamamAM. praznakartA: atyAranuM mAruM vartana emanI pratye sAruM che. chatAM ya pelAM bole, kharAba vartana kare che, to gayA janamanuM che ? dAdAzrI : gayA avatAranA karma eTale zuM? yojanA rUpe karelA hoya. eTale mananA vicArathI karma karelAM hoya, te atyAre rUpakamAM Ave ane te ApaNe kArya karavuM paDe. na karavuM hoya to ya karavuM ja paDe. ApaNe chUTako ja nA thAya. evAM kArya karIe chIe. te pAchalAM yojanArUpanA AdhAre karIe chIe ane pachI tenuM phaLa pAchuM bhogavavuM paDe. pati-patnItI athaDAmaNo... mAkaNa kaiDe che, e to bicArA bahu sArA che paNa A dhaNI bairIne keDe che, bairI dhaNIne keDe che e bahu vasamuM hoya che. kaiDe ke nA kaMDe ? praznakartA : kaiDe. dAdAzrI : to e keDavAnuM baMdha karavAnuM che. mAkaNa keDe che, e to keDIne jatAM rahe. bicAro e mahIM dharAI gayo eTale jato rahe. paNa bairI to kAyama keDatI ja hoya. eka jaNa to mane kahe che, mArI vAIpha mane sApaNanI peTha keDe che ! tyAre mUA, paiNyo to zuM karavA te sApaNanI joDe ?! te e sApa nahIM hoya mUo ?! ema ne ema sApaNa AvatI haze ? sApa hoya tyAre sApaNa Ave ne ! praznakartA : enAM karmamAM lakhyuM haze eTale ene bhogavavuM ja rahyuM, eTale e karaDe che, emAM vAIphano vAMka nathI ! dAdAzrI : basa. eTale A karmanA bhogavaTA che badhA. tethI evI vAIpha maLI Ave, evo dhaNI maLI Ave. sAsu evAM maLI Ave. nahIM to A duniyAmAM kevI kevI sArI sAsuo hoya che ! dhaNI kevA kevA sArA hoya che ! bairI kevI kevI sArI hoya che ! ne ApaNane ja AvAM vAMkA kema bhegA thayA ?! A to bairI joDe laDhavADa karyA kare. alyA, tArA karmano doSa. eTale ApaNA loko nimittane bacakAM bhare. bairI, te nimitta che. nimittane zuM karavA bacakAM bhare che ? nimittane bacakAM bhare, temAM bhalIvAra Ave koI dahADo ? avaLI gatio thAya badhI. A to lokonI zuM gati thavAnI che, e kahetAM nathI eTale bhaDakatAM nathI. jo kahI de ne ke cAra paga ne pUMchaDuM vadhArAnuM maLaze, to hamaNA DAhyA thaI jAya. praznakartA : emAM konuM karma kharAba samajavuM ? banne dhaNIdhaNIyANI laDhatA hoya temAM ? dAdAzrI : bemAMthI je kaMTALe enuM ? praznakartA : te emAM to koI kaMTALe ja nahIM, e to laDyA ja dAdAzrI : to bannenuM bheguM. aNasamajaNathI badhuM thAya che. praznakartA ane e samaja AvI jAya to du:kha ja nathIne kaMI ! dAdAzrI : e samaje to kazuM du:kha ja nathI. A to evuM che, eka chokaro kAMkaro mAre, to pachI ene mAravA pharI vaLe ane gusse thaI jAya ekadama. gusse thAya ke nA thAya ? ane DuMgara uparathI kAMkaro mAthe paDe ne lohI nIkaLe to ? konI joDe gusso kare ? praznakartA : koI upara nahIM. dAdAzrI : evI rIte A che. haMmezAM je mAranAra chene e nimitta

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karmanuM vijJAna ke karmanuM vijJAna ja che, e to bhAna nathI tethI A gusso kare che ! AvuM nimitta, samaje to duHkha ja nathI ! sukha ApI sukha lo ! jema ApaNe bAvaLIyA vAvIe ane pachI emAM AMbAnI AzA rAkhIe to cAle nahIM ne ? jevuM vAvIe evuM phaLa maLe. jevAM jevAM karma karyA che evuM phaLa ApaNe bhogavavAnuM che. atyAre ko'kane gALa bhAMDI, te dahADAnuM pelAnAM gAMThamAM ja hoya ke kyAre bhego thAya ne ApI dauM. loka badalA vALe, mATe AvAM karma nA karavA ke loko duHkhI thAya. ApaNe jo sukha joItuM hoya to sukha Apo. koI be gALo bhAMDI jAya to zuM karavuM joIe ? jame karI devAnuM. pUrve ApelI che te pAchI ApI gayo che ane jo gamatI hoya to bIjI be-pAMca gALo dhIravI ane nA gamatI hoya to dhIravI-karavI nahIM, nahIM to e pAchI Ape tyAre sahana nahIM thAya. mATe je je dhIre e jame karavuM. A duniyAmAM anyAya nathI. bilakula eka sekanDa paNa nyAyanI bahAra gaI nathI A duniyA. mATe e tame jo paddhatisara hazo to tamAruM koI nAma denAra nathI. hA, be gALo ApavA Ave to laI lo. laIne jame karI levAnI ane kahI devAnuM ke A hisAba patI gayo. kleza, e nathI udayakarma ! jANyuM to konuM nAma kahevAya, gharamAM matabheda nA hoya, manabheda nA hoya, kleza-kaMkAsa nA hoya. A to mahinAmAM ekAda dahADo kleza thaI jAya ke nA thaI jAya gharamAM ? pachI e jIvana kema kahevAya ? AthI to AdivAsIo sArI rIte jIve che. praznakartA: paNa udayakarmane AdhIna haze, to kleza-kaMkAsa thavAno ja ? dAdAzrI : nA kleza udayakarmanA AdhIna nathI paNa ajJAnathI UbhA thAya che. kleza UbhA thAya che ne, te navA karmabIja paDe che. udayakarma klazavALuM hotuM nathI. ajJAnatAthI pote ahIM kema vartavuM, te jANato nathI eTale kleza thaI jAya. atyAre mArA eka khAsa phrenDa hoya, te opha thaI gayA evI khabara ahIM lAvIne mane Ape, eTale tarata ja A zuM thayuM, jJAnathI mane enuM pRththakaraNa thaI jAya, eTale pachI mane kleza thavAnuM koI kAraNa ja nathI ne ! A to ajJAna muMjhAvI nAkhe ke mAro bhaIbaMdha marI gayo ne, e badhuM kleza karAve ! eTale kleza eTale ajJAnatA. ajJAnatAthI kleza badhA UbhA thAya che. ajJAnatA jAya to kleza dUra thaI jAya ! badhuM zuM che, e jANI levuM joIe. sAdhAraNa rIte ApaNe gharamAM eka mATalI hoya, te chokaro phoDI nAkhe to koI kleza karatuM nathI ane kAcanuM AvaDuM vAsaNa hoya e phoDI nAkhe to ? dhaNI zuM kahe baIne ? tuM sAcavatI nathI A bAbAne, to mUA mATalImAM kema nA bolyA ? tyAre kahe, e to DIvelyu hatI. enI kiMmata ja nhotI. kiMmata nA hoya to ApaNe kleza nathI karatAM ane kiMmatavALAmAM kleza karIe chIene ! vastu to beu udayakarmane AdhIna phUTe che ne ! paNa jo ApaNe mATalI upara kleza nathI karatAM ! eka mANasanA be hajAra rUpiyA khovAI jAya, te ene mAnasika ciMtA-upAdhi thAya. bIjA eka mANasane khovAI jAya to e kaheze, 'A karmanA udaya haze te thayuM have.' eTale Ama samajaNa hoya to niveDo lAve, nahIM to kleza thaI jAya. pUrvajanmanA karmamAM kleza nathI hoto. kleza to atyAranI ajJAnatAnuM phaLa che. keTalAMka mANaso be hajAra jatAM rahe to kazuM asara nA thAya. evuM

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna bane ke nA bane ? koI du:kha udayakarmane AdhIna hotuM nathI. badhA duHkho e ApaNI ajJAnatAnA che. keTalAMka mANasane vImo nA utAryo hoya, chatAM enuM goDAuna saLage te ghaDIe zAMta rahI zake che, aMdara paNa zAMta rahI zake che, bahAra ne aMdara beu rIte ane keTalAMka loko to, aMdara du:khe ne bAhya paNa du:kha dekhADe. e badhuM ajJAnatA, aNasamajaNa. e goDAuna to saLagavAnuM ja hatuM. emAM navuM che ja nahIM. pachI tuM mAthA phoDIne marI jauM to ya eno pheraphAra thavAno nathI. praznakartA : A koI paNa vastunA pariNAmane sArI rIte levuM joIe. dAdAzrI : hA, pojhiTiva levuM, paNa te jJAna hoya to pojhiTiva le. nahIM to pachI buddhi to negeTiva ja jue. A jagata AkhuM duHkhI che. mAchalAM taraphaDe ema taraphaDI rahyuM che. Ane jIvana kema kahevAya che ? samajavAnI jarUra che, jIvana jIvavAnI kaLA jANavAnI jarUra che. kaMI badhAno mokSa hoto nathI paNa jIvana jIvavAnI kaLA e to hovI joIe ne ! amaMgala patra, posTametato zuM guno ? duHkha badhuM aNasamajaNanuM ja che A jagatamAM ! pote UbhuM kareluM che badhuM, nA dekhAvAthI ! dAjhe tyAre kahene ke bhaI, kema tame dAjhayA ? tyAre kahe, 'bhUlathI dAjhayo, kaMI jANI joIne dAkhuM ?" evuM A badhuM bhUlathI du:kha che. badhA duHkha ApaNI bhUlanuM pariNAma. bhUla jatI raheze eTale thaI rahyuM. praznakartA : karma cIkaNAM hoya che, tene lIdhe ApaNane duHkha bhogavavuM paDe che ? dAdAzrI : ApaNAM ja karma karelAM, tethI ApaNI ja bhUla che. koI anyano doSa A jagatamAM che ja nahIM. bIjA to nimitta mAtra che. du:kha tamAruM che ne sAmA nimittane hAthe apAya che. bApa marI gayA ne kAgaLa posTamena ApI jAya, temAM posTamenano zo doSa ? pUrvabhavatA RNAnubaMdhIo... praznakartA ApaNA je sagAvahAlAM hoya athavA to vAIpha hoya, chokarAM hoya, Aje ApaNAM je sagA RNAnubaMdhI hoya che, emanI joDe ApaNe kaMI pUrvabhavanuM kaMI saMbaMdha hoya che mATe bhegA thAya che ? dAdAzrI : kharuM. RNAnubaMdha vagara to kazuM hoya ja nahIM ne ! badhA hisAba che. ApaNe kAM to emane godA mAryA che agara godA emaNe ApaNane mAryA che. upakAra karyA haze, to enuM phaLa atyAre mIThuM Avaze. godA mAryA haze, tenuM kaDavuM Avaze. praznakartA : dhAro ke atyAre mane koI bhAI kaMI godo mAre che ane mane duHkha thAya che, to e du:kha mane thAya che e to mArA ja karmanAM phaLa che. paNa e bhAI ja mane godo mAre che, mATe emane gayA bhavamAM kaMI mArI joDe kaMI evo hisAba baMdhAyo haze, mATe e ja mane godo mAre che, evuM kaMI kharuM ? dAdAzrI : kharuMne. badho hisAba. jeTalo hisAba hoya eTalAM vakhata mAre. eno hisAba hoya to be godA mAre, traNano hisAba hoya to traNa mAre. A maracuM godo nA mAre ? praznakartA : mAre. dAdAzrI : moDhe lhAya baLe, nahIM ? evuM A badhuM. pote nahIM mAratA, pudgala godA mAre che ane ApaNe jANIe ke A e mAre che. e guno che pAcho. pudgala godA mAre che. maracuM godA mAre che to pAchuM kyAM nAkhe che ene ?! maracuM koI dI godo mAre tethI ApaNe samajI javuM ke bhaI emAM

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karmanuM vijJAna pa1 karmanuM vijJAna godo khAnArano doSa che. maracuM enA svabhAvamAM ja che. praznakartA : ApaNe paNa koIne godo mArIe ane ene duHkha thAya, to zuM karavuM ? dAdAzrI : ApaNe pratikramaNa karavuM paDe. kapaDAM to cokhkhA rAkhavA paDe ne ! melAM kema karAya te ! chellAmAM chelluM vartana, koIne kiMcitmAtra paNa du:kha na thAya evuM hovuM joIe. to atyAre du:kha thAya, tenuM pratikramaNa karIe to chellI dazA Ave. koI koInuM duHkha laI zake ? praznakartA eka mahAna saMta be varSa pahelAM eka hospiTalamAM khUba pIDAtA hatA. tyAM meM prazna emane pUchelo ke kema tamane AvuM thAya che ? to ema kahe ke meM ghaNAM mANasonAM duHkho laI lIdhAM che. eTale A badhuM mane thAya che. evuM koI karI zake ? dAdAzrI : koInuM duHkha koI laI zake nahIM. A to bahAnA kADhyA saMta tarIke pUjAIne ! potAnA ja kaoNjhIjhanA A pariNAma che. A to bahAnuM kADhe che, potAnI Abaru rahe eTalA mATe. moTA du:kha lenArA pAkyA ! saMDAsa javAnI zakti nathI. e zuM du:kha levAnA hatA te ! koI koInuM laI zI rIte zake ? praznakartA : huM ya nathI mAnato. duHkha laI zakAya ja nahIM. dAdAzrI : nA, nA ! A to lokone mUrakha banAve che. koI laI zake ja nahIM. eTale A to badhuM e bahAnA kADhavAnA ! pachI pUjAya ! huM to moDhA upara kahI dauM ke tamArA du:kha tame bhogavI rahyA cho. zuM joIne AvuM bolo cho ? moTA duHkha levAvALA AvyA. praznakartA : duHkha ApI to zakAya ne ? dAdAzrI : e duHkha laI zakato nathI ane je koI ApaNane duHkha ApI zake, e to ApaNuM IphekTa che. ApI zake te ya IphekTa che ne laI zake te ya IphekTa che. IphekTa eTale ITa hepansa, koI kartA nahIM ! bhayAnaka dardo, pApakarme ! praznakartA : koI paNa roga thavAthI mRtyu pAme tyAre loko ema bole ke pUrvajanmanAM koI pApa naDe che. e sAcI vAta che ? dAdAzrI : hA. pApathI roga thAya ane pApa nA hoya to roga nA thAya. te koI rogavALAne joyelAM ? praznakartA : mArA mAtRzrI hamaNAM ja be mahinA upara kensarathI gayA. dAdAzrI: e to badhA pApakarmanA udayathI bane. pApakarmano udaya hoya tyAre kensara thAya, A badhuM hArTaeTeka ne e pelA pApakarmathI badhuM thAya che. nardhA pApo ja bAMdhyA che, A kALanA jIvoe, dhaMdhA ja e, Akho dahADo pApakarma ja karyA kare che. bhAna nathI eTale. jo bhAna hota to AvuM nA karata ! praznakartA : emaNe AkhI jiMdagI bhakti karelI, to emane kema kensara thayuM ? dAdAzrI : bhakti karI, enuM phaLa to haju have Avaze. AvatAM janamamAM maLaze. A pAchalAM janmanuM phaLa atyAre maLyuM ane atyAre tame sArA ghauM vAvI rahyA cho, to AvatA bhavamAM tamane ghauM maLaze. praznakartA : karmane lIdhe roga thAya, to davAthI kema maTe che ? dAdAzrI : hA. e rogamAM e ja pApa karelAMne, te pApa aNasamajaNathI karelA eTale A davAthI madada maLI Ave ane helpa thaI jAya. samajaNapUrvaka karyA hoya tenI davA-bavA koI maLe nahIM, davA bhegI ja nA thAya. aNasamajaNathI karanArAM che, bicArA ! aNasamajaNathI

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karmanuM vijJAna pa3 54 karmanuM vijJAna pApa karelAM choDe nahIM ane samajaNavALAne ya choDe nahIM. paNa aNasamajaNavALAne kaMIka madada maLI Ave ane samajaNavALAne nA maLe. e che pArakAMte pajavyAnuM pariNAma ! praznakartA H zarIranA sukha-duHkha ApaNe bhogavIe chIe e vyAdhi hoya ke game te AvatuM hoya, te pUrvenA kyA prakAranA karmonA pariNAmo hoya ? dAdAzrI : AmAM to evuM che, keTalAMya loko aNasamajaNamAM bilADIne mArI nAkhe. kUtarAne mArI nAkhe, khUba du:kha de che, herAna kare che. e to du:kha de che, e ghaDIe potAne bhAna nathI hotuM ke javAbadArI zuM Avaze ? nAnI uMmaramAM bilADInAM baccAM mArI nAkhe. kUtarAnA baccAM mArI nAkhe ane bIjuM A dAktaro deDakAM kApe che, e eno paDagho enA zarIra para paDavAno. je tame karI rahyA cho, teno ja paDagho paDaze. paDaghA che A badhA. praznakartA : eTale anyanA zarIra sAthe karelA ceDAMnA paDaghA paDe tethI bhagavAne kahyuM ke mana-vacana-kAyAthI ahiMsA pALa. koI jIvane kiMcitmAtra duHkha nA thAya evuM kara, jo tamAre sukhI thavuM hoya to ! praznakartA : koI mahAtmA hoya teNe DaoNkaTara nA banavuM joIe ? dAdAzrI : thavuM nA joIe ke thavuM joIe, e DipharanTa meTara che. e to enI prakRti pramANe thayA ja karavAnuM. bAkI, manamAM bhAva Avo hovo joIe. eTale e dAkataranI lAInamAM javAya ja nahIM pachI. koIne kiMcitmAtra duHkha nA thAya evo bhAva jeno che, e tyAM AgaLa kema deDakAM mAre ? praznakartA : bIjI bAju DaoNkaTarI zIkhIne hajAro lokonA darda maTADIne phAyado paNa kare che ne ? dAdAzrI : e duniyAno vyavahAra che. e phAyado nA kahevAya. maMda magajatAMte karma baMdhata kevuM ? praznakartA : je sAro mANasa hoya to ene jAtajAtanA vicAro Ave, miniTamAM keTalAMya vicAra karI nAkhe. karma bAMdhI nAkhe ane maMda magajanAMne to samajaNa ja nA hoya kazI ! eTale ene to kazuM hoya ja nahIM, nirdoSa hoya ne ! dAdAzrI : e samajaNavALA samajaNanA karma bAMdhe ne nA samajaNavALA nA samajaNanA karma bAMdhe. paNa nA samajaNavALAnA karma bahu jADA hoya ane samajaNavALA to viveka sahita Ama bAMdhe. eTale pelo che enAM karma badhA jaMgalI jevAM hoya, jAnavara jevAM, ene samajaNa ja nathI, bhAna ja nahIM pachI ! e to ko'ka dekhe ne DhekhALo mAravA taiyAra thaI jAya. praznakartA : ApaNe evA mANasanI dayA na karavI joIe ? dAdAzrI : rAkhavI ja joIe. jene samajaNa nA hoya, tenAM tarapha dayAbhAva rAkhavo joIe. ene helpa karavI joIe kaMIka. magajanI dAdAzrI : hA. e ja. koI jIvane kiMcitmAtra du:kha devuM, e tamArA ja zarIra para Avaze. praznakartA : eTale eNe jyAre A badhuM karyuM hoya, jIvone cIryA hoya to te vakhate te ajJAna dazAmAM hoya ne ! ene evo verabhAva paNa nA hoya, to ya ene bhogavavuM paDe ? dAdAzrI : bhUlathI, ajJAna dazAmAM hAtha devatAmAM paDe ne, te devatA phaLa Ape ja. eTale koI choDe nahIM. ajJAna ke ajJAna, abhAnatA ke sabhAnatA, bhogavavAnI rIta judI hoya che. paNa bAkI kazuM choDe nahIM ! A badhA loko duHkha bhogavI rahyA che e potAno ja hisAba che badho.

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karmanuM vijJAna kharAbI, ene laIne bicAro Avo hoya, temAM pachI eno zo doSa ?! e DhekhALo mArI jAya to ya ApaNe enI sAthe vera nahIM rAkhatA, enI para karuNA rAkhavI joIe ! 55 garIba-amIra kyA karme ? je bane che te ja nyAya mAnavAmAM Ave to kalyANa thaI jAya. praznakartA : to dAdA, tamane nathI lAgatuM ke, be mANasa hoya, eka mANasa joto hoya ke A mANasa ATalo badho kharAba, chatAM paNa ATalI sArI sthitimAM che ane huM ATalo dharmapArAyaNa chuM to Avo du:khI chuM. to enuM mana dharmamAMthI nahIM pharI jAya ? dAdAzrI : evuM che ne A je duHkhI che e kaMI badhAMya dharma pArAyaNavALA duHkhI hotA nathI. sekaDe pAMca TakA sukhI ya hoya che. Aje je duHkha AvyuM che, te ApaNA ja karmanuM pariNAma che. Aje e je sukhI thayelo che, Aje enI pAse paisA che ne e sukha bhogavI rahyo che, e enA karmanuM pariNAma che. ane have je kharAba karI rahyo che enuM pariNAma Avaze, tyAre e bhogavaze. ApaNe je have sArA karI rahyA che, tenuM pariNAma ApaNe Avaze tyAre bhogavIzuM. praznakartA : dAdA, A tamArI vAta sAcI che. paNa eka vyavahArika draSTie joIe ke eka mANasa jhUMpaDapaTTImAM raheto hoya, bhUkhyo hoya, tarasyo hoya. sAme mahelamAM eka mANasa raheto hoya. jhUMpaDIvALo jue che ke mArI Ama dazA kevI che. huM to ATalo badho pramANika chuM. nokarI karuM chuM. to mArA chokarAMne khAvA nathI maLatuM. tyAre A mANasa to ATaluM badhuM UMdhuM kare che chatAM e mahelamAM rahe che. to ene gusso nA thAya ? e kema sthiratA rAkhI zake ? dAdAzrI : atyAre je duHkha bhogavI rahyo che, te pahelAMnI parIkSA ApI che tenuM pariNAma AvI rahyuM che ane pelAM eNe ya parIkSA ApI che, tenuM A pariNAma AvyuM che. pAsa thayo che ne have pharI nApAsa karmanuM vijJAna thavAnAM pAchAM lakSaNo UbhA thayA che ene. ane Ane pAsa thavAnA lakSaNo UbhA thayA che. 56 praznakartA : paNa pelo garIba mANasa, enI potAnI mAnasika sthiti jyAM sudhI paripakva na hoya tyAM sudhI kyAMthI samaje e ? dAdAzrI : e Ave ja nahIM mAnyAmAM. eTale AmAM ulaTuM che te vadhAre pApa bAMdhe. eNe e jANavuM ja joIe ke mArA ja karmanuM pariNAma che. karIe sAruM te phaLa kharAba ! praznakartA : ApaNe sAruM karIe paNa enuM phaLa sAruM nA maLe. eno artha evo thayo ke pUrvajanmanAM kaMIka kharAba karma haze. te ene kensala karI nAkhe che. dAdAzrI : hA, karI nAkhe. ApaNe che te juvAra to vAvI ane moTI thaI ane pUrvabhavanuM ApaNuM kharAba karma udaya thAya, te chello varasAda nA paDe, te sUkAI jAya badhuM ya ane puNya jora kare to thaI jAya taiyAra. hAthamAM AveluM khUMcavAI jAya. mATe sArA karmo karo. nahIM to mukti khoLo. bemAMthI eka rasto lo ! A duniyAmAMthI chUTI javAnuM khoLo, kAM to sArA karma karo, kAyamane mATe. paNa kAyamane mATe sArA karma thAya nahIM mANasathI, UMdhe raste caDhI ja javAno. kusaMga maLyA ja kare. praznakartA : zubha karma ne azubha karma oLakhavAnuM tharmomITara kyuM ? dAdAzrI : zubha karma Ave tyAre ApaNane mIThAza lAge, zAMti lAge, vAtAvaraNa zAMta lAge ane azubha Ave tyAre kaDavATa utpanna thAya, manane cena paDe nahIM. ayukta karma tapAvaDAve ane yukta karma hRdayane AnaMda Ape. mRtyu pachI joDe zuM jAya ?

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karmanuM vijJAna 57 karmanuM vijJAna praznakartA : zubha ane azubha je karmo che, enuM je pariNAma che e have bIjI je paNa koI yonimAM jAya, tyAM ene bhogavavuM paDe ne ? dAdAzrI : tyAM bhogavavuM ja paDe. eTale ahIMthI mRtyu thAya eTale mULa zuddhAtmA jAya che. joDe zubhAzubha je AkhI jiMdagImAM karmo karyA te yojanArUpe, eTale kAraNa zarIra kahevAya che ene, kaoNjhala boDI, pachI sUkSma boDI eTale IlekTrikala boDI. A badhuM sAthe javAnuM. bIjuM kazuM jatuM nathI. praznakartA: manuSya janma je maLe che, te pharI pharI maLe che ke pachI pAcho amuka vakhata manuSyamAM AvIne pAchuM bIjI yonimAM ene javuM paDe ? dAdAzrI : badhI yoniomAM ahIMthI javAnuM. atyAre lagabhaga sIttera TakA mANaso cAra pagamAM javAnA che. ahIMthI sIttera TakA !! ane vastI jhapATAbaMdha khalAsa thaI jaze. eTale mANasamAMthI jAnavare ya thAya, deva thAya, narkagati thAya ane pharI manuSya ya thAya. jevAM jevAM karma karyA hoya tevAM tevAM thAya. loko pAzavatAne lAyaka evAM karmo kare che kharA atyAre ? praznakartA : ghaNAM loko pAzavatAnA ja karmo atyAre to karI rahyAM dAdAzrI : manuSyamAMthI pachI to devamAM ya, moTAmAM moTo deva thaIne Ubho rahe, A duniyAmAM TopamosTa. ane nIca yoni eTale kevI nIca yoni te ? dhRNAjanaka yonimAM jAya. enuM nAma sAMbhaLatA ja dhRNA thAya. manuSyabhavamAM ja karma bAMdhI zake che mANasa. bAkI bIjA koI avatAramAM karma bAMdhato nathI. bIjA badhA avatAromAM karma bhogave che. ane A manuSyamAM karma bAMdhe che ya kharo ne bhogave che ya kharo, beu thAya che. pAchalAM karmo bhogavatA jAya che ne navA bAMdhe che. eTale ahIMthI cAragatimAM bhaTakavAnuM, ahIMthI javAnuM thAya che ane A gAyobheMso, A badhA jAnavaro dekhAya che, A devaloko, emane karma bhogavavAnA khAlI, ene karma karavAnA adhikAra nathI. praznakartA : paNa lagabhaga to manuSyanA karma sArA thatAM ja nathI ne ? dAdAzrI : A to kaLiyuga che ne duSamakALa che, eTale ghaNAMkharAM karma kharAba ja thAya. praznakartA : eTale ke ahIMyA bIjA navA karmo baMdhAvAnA ja ne ? dAdAzrI : rAta-dA'Do baMdhAyA ja kare. jUnA bhogavato jAya ne navA bAMdhato jAya. praznakartA : to AnAthI have bIjo koI sAro bhava kharo ? dAdAzrI : koI jagyAe nahIM. ATalo ja sAro che. bIjA to be jAtanA bhavo. ahIM jo devuM thaI gayuM hoya, eTale kharAba karmo baMdhAyA hoya, enuM nAma devuM. te pachI A jAnavaromAM javuM paDe, DebiTa bhogavavA mATe ane narkagatimAM javAnuM to, DebiTa vadhAre thaI gayuM hoya to te tyAM AgaLa devuM bhogavIne pAchuM AvavAnuM, DebiTa bhogavIne. ahIM sArA karma thayA hoya to moTA UMcI jAtanA manuSyo thAya, tyAM AkhI jiMdagI sukha hoya. e bhogavIne pAcho hato tevo ne tevo ane dAdAzrI : to tyAMnI TikITa AvI gaI, rIjharvezana thaI gayA. eTale bheLaseLa karato hoya, aNahakkanuM khAI jato hoya, bhogavI leto hoya, A jUThuM bolato hoya, corIo karato hoya, e badhAnI have niMdA karavAno artha ja zuM che ? e emanI TikITo maLI gaI che emane ! cAgatimAM bhaTakaNa ! praznakartA : A manuSya nIca yonimAM jAya kharo ?

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna nahIM to devagatimAM jAya. kreDiTanA sukho bhogavavA mATe. paNa kreDiTa pUrI thaI gaI, lAkha rUpiyA pUrA thaI gayA, vaparAI gayA eTale pAcho ahIM mUo ! praznakartA : bIjA badhA bhavo karatAM A manuSya bhavanuM AyuSya vadhAre ne ? dAdAzrI : nA, evuM kaMI nahIM. A devalokone lAkho varSanuM AyuSya. praznakartA: paNa deva thavA mATe to A badhA karmo pUrA thAya pachI naMbara lAge ne ? dAdAzrI : nA, evuM kazuM nahIM. e koI suparahyumana hoya to deva ja thAya. potAnuM sukha pote bhogave nahIM ne bIjAne ApI de, e suparahyumana kahevAya. te devagatimAM jAya ! praznakartA : potAne sukha nA hoya, to pachI e bIjAne kevI rItanA sukha ApI zake ? dAdAzrI : eTale ja nA ApI zake ne paNa ko'ka evo mANasa hoya. karoDomAM ekAda mANasa te potAnuM sukha bIjAne ApI deto hoya, te devagatimAM jAya. pahelAM to AvAM bahu mANaso hatA. sekaDe babbetraNa TakA, pAMca-pAMca TakA hatA. atyAre to karoDomAM be-cAra nIkaLe vakhate. atyAre to du:kha nA Ape to ya DAhyo kahevAya. bIjAne kaMI paNa duHkha nA Ape to pharI manuSyamAM Ave, manuSyamAM sArI jagyAe ke jyAM baMgalo taiyAra hoya, gADIo taiyAra hoya tyAM janma thAya ane pAzavatAnA karmo kare, A bheLaseLa kare, luccAIo kare, corIo kare to pazumAM javuM paDe. praznakartA : to kAyado kevo che ? dAdAzrI : adhogatimAM javAno hoya pakaDAI jato nathI ane urdhvagatimAM je jAya evAnAM halakA karma hoya ne, to ene polIsavALAne pakaDAvI ja de tarata ja te AgaLa UMdhuM jatAM aTakI jAya ne enA bhAva pharI jAya. kudarata helpa kone kare che ? ke je bhAre che tene bhAre thavA de che. halako che tene halako thavA de. halakAvALA urdhvagatimAM jAya. bhArevALo adhogatimAM jAya. eTale A kudaratanA niyama che evA. hamaNAM koIke jema koI dahADo corI nA karI hoya ne eka vakhata corI karene to tarata pakaDAI jAya ane aThaMga cora pakaDAya nahIM. kAraNa ke enA bhAre karyo che eTale emAM pUrA mArkasa joIe ne ! mAInasa mArka ya paNa pUrA joIe ne ! to ja duniyA cAle ne ? manuSyamAM ja baMdhAya karma ! praznakartA : huM eTale ja pUchuM chuM ke manuSya bhava sivAya bIjo koI evo bhava kharo ke nahIM ke jemAM ochA karmo baMdhAtA hoya. dAdAzrI : bIje karma ja baMdhAtA nathI. bIjA koI avatAramAM karma baMdhAtA nathI, ahIM ekalA ja baMdhAya che ane jyAM nathI baMdhAtA e loko zuM kahe che ? ke ahIM kyAM A jelamAM AyA ? karma baMdhAya evI jagyA e to muktapaNuM kahevAya, A to jela kahevAya. praznakartA : manuSyabhavamAM ja karma baMdhAya. sArA karmo paNa ahIMyA ja baMdhAya ne ? dAdAzrI : sArA karmo paNa ahIM ja baMdhAya ne khoTAM ya ahIM baMdhAya. A manuSyo karma bAMdhe che. temAM jo lokone nukasAna karanArA, lokone duHkha denArA karma hoya to che te janAvaramAM jAya ne narkagatimAM jAya. lokone sukha ApanArA karma hoya to mANasamAM Ave ne devagatimAM jAya. eTale jevAM karma e kare che tenA uparathI gati thAya che. have gati thaI eTale pachI bhogavIne pachI pAchuM ahIM AvavAnuM.

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna karma bAMdhavAno adhikAra manuSyone ja che, bIjA koIne nathI, ane jene bAMdhavAno adhikAra che tene cAreya gatimAM rakhaDavuM paDe che. ane jo karma nA kare, bilakule ya karma ja nA kare to mokSe jAya. manuSyamAMthI mokSe javAya. bIjI koI jagyAethI mokSe nA javAya. karma nA kare evuM tame joyeluM ? praznakartA : nA, evuM nathI joyuM. dAdAzrI : tame joyelA karma nA kare evAM ? emaNe joyelAM che ne tame nathI joyA ?! A jAnavaro-bAnavaro badhA che te khAya che, pIe che, mAramArA kare che, laDhamUlaDhA kare che to ya karma baMdhAya nahIM emane. evuM mANasane karma nA baMdhAya evI sthiti che. paNa pote karmano kartA nA thAya to ne karma bhogave eTaluM ja ! eTale ahIM amAre tyAM Ave ane "selpha riyalAIjha'nuM jJAna prApta thAya to karmanuM kartApaNuM chUTI jAya, karavApaNuM chUTI jAya, bhogavavAnuM rahe pachI. ahaMkAra hoya tyAM sudhI karmano kartA. ATha avatAra sudhInI sillaka sAthe ! praznakartA : je je avatAramAM karma baMdhAtA nathI, khAlI karma bhogavavA ja paDe che, to te jIvano pachIno bhava kevI rIte thAya ? dAdAzrI : A eTaluM badhuM che ke mANasa ahIMthI gayo, te gAyano avatAra Avyo. te gAyano avatAra bhogave. pUro thaI jAya, tyAra pachI bakarIno avatAra Ave, e bakarIno ja Ave evuM nahIM, game te avatAra eno hisAba hoya e pramANe Ave. DijhAIna hoya e pramANe Ave. pachI, gadheDAno avatAra Ave. so-baso varSa AvuM bhaTakI Ave. eTale badhuM bhogavAI jAya DebITa. eTale ahIMyA manuSya janmamAM pAcho Ave. bIje badhe eka avatAra pachI bIjo avatAra thAya, te emAM karma karavAthI nathI thato. e karma bhogavAI gayA tethI thAya che. eka A paDa gayuM ne bIjuM paDa AvyuM, bIjuM paDI gayuM ne trIjuM paDa AvyuM, evuM badhA paDa bhogavAI jAya eTale badhA ATha avatAra pUrA thAya ne ahIM manuSyamAM Avato rahe. vadhumAM vadhu ATha avatAra bIjI gatimAM bhaTakIne pAcho manuSyamAM AvI ja jAya. evo karmano niyama che ! manuSyone lAyakanuM karma to enI pAse sillaka rahe che ja. jyAM jAya, devagatimAM jAya to ya. eTale sillakanA AdhAre pAcho phare che. eTale A sillaka rAkhIne bIjA badhA karma bhogavAI jAya che. praznakartA: manuSyamAM Ave che, pachI enuM jIvana kaI rIte cAle ? e enAM bhAva para ja cAle ne ? enA kayA karmanA AdhAre enuM jIvana cAle ? dAdAzrI : enI pAse manuSyanA karma to sillaka che ja A to. A sillaka to ApaNI pAse che ja, paNa devuM thaI gayuM hoya to devuM bhogavI Avo ne pachI pAchA Avo, kahe che. kreDiTa thaI gaI hoya tyAre kreDiTa bhogavI pAchA ahIM Avo. A to sillaka che ja ApaNI pAse. A sillaka to khaTe evI nathI. A sillaka kyAre khaTe ? ke jyAre kartApada chUTe tyAre chUTe. tyAre mokSe cAlyo jAya. nahIM to kartApada chUTe ja nahIM ne ! ahaMkAra khalAsa thAya eTale chUTe. ahaMkAra hoya eTale pelAM bhogavIne pAcho ahIM ne ahIM mUo hoya. praznakartA : bIjI badhI yoniomAMthI pAcho manuSyamAM Ave, to Ave to kyAM AgaLa janma le ? mAchImAramAM le ke rAjAmAM le ? dAdAzrI : ahIM manuSyamAM enI pAse je sAmAna taiyAra mUkI gayo che ne te bIjuM A devuM ubhuM thayuM che te devuM vALI Ave ane pachI tyAM no tyAM ja Ave ane e sAmAnamAM (pAchuM) cAlu kare. eTale ApaNe je bajAramAM jaIe chIe, te badhA kAma patAvIne pAchA gheranAM ghera AvIe chIe. evI rIte A ghara che. ahIMnuM ahIM pAchuM AvavAnuM. ahIM A ghara che. ahIM jyAre ahaMkAra khalAsa thaI jaze tyAre ahIM paNa nahIM rahevAnuM. mokSamAM jatuM rahevAnuM basa. have bIjA avatAramAM

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna ahaMkAra vaparAto nathI. jyAM bhogavavAnuM che tyAM ahaMkAra vaparAto nathI. eTale karma ja baMdhAtA nathI. A pADAne, gAyane, koIne ahaMkAra nA hoya. dekhAya kharAM ke A ghoDo ahaMkArI che paNa e DiscArja ahaMkAra. sAco ahaMkAra nathI. sAco ahaMkAra hoya to karma baMdhAya. eTale ahaMkArane laIne pAcho ahIM Avyo che. ahaMkAra jo khalAsa thaI jAya to mokSe cAlyo jAya. rIrTana TikTi lIdhelI, jAtavaramAMthI ! praznakartA Ape kahyuM ke karmonuM phaLa maLe che, to A je jAnavaro che te pachI manuSyamAM AvI zake kharAM ? dAdAzrI : e ja Ave che. e ja atyAre AvyA che, tenI vastI vadhI che ne ! ane te ja bheLaseLa kare che A badhA. praznakartA : emaNe pelA jAnavaroe kayA satkarma karyA haze ke e mAnava thayA ? dAdAzrI : ene satkarma karavAnuM nA hoya. huM tamane samajAvuM. eka mANasa devAdAra thayo. devAdAra thayo eTale nAdAra kahevAya. loko nAdAra kahe ene, to pachI eNe devuM ApI dIdhuM eTale ene pharI nAdAra kahe kharAM ? praznakartA : nA, pachI nA kahe. dAdAzrI : tevI rIte ahIMthI jAnavaramAM jAyane, devuM patAvavA pUratuM ja. devuM bhogavIne ahIM pAcho Avato rahe ane devagatimAM jAya to kreDiTa (leNuM) bhogavIne pAcho ahIM ja Ave. Ama toMtare adhogati ! praznakartA manuSyane jAnavarano ja avatAra maLe, e kevI rIte khabara paDe ? dAdAzrI : badhAM lakSaNa ja kahI Ape enAM. atyAre enAM vicAra chene, te vicAro ja pAzavatAnAM Ave. kevAM Ave ? konuM bhogavI lauM, konuM khaI jauM, konuM e karuM ? maraNa thatI vakhate phoTo paNa jAnavarano paDe. praznakartA: AMbAnI goTalI ApaNe vAvIe to AMbo ja thAya, evuM manuSya mare to manuSyamAMthI pachI manuSya ja thAya ? dAdAzrI : hA, manuSyamAMthI pachI eTale A meTaraniTI vorDamAM manuSyanI strInAM peTe kataruM nA Ave. samajAya che ne ! paNa manuSyamAM jene sajajanatAnAM vicAra hoya eTale mAnavatAnAM guNo hoya to pharI manuSyamAM Ave ane potAnAM hakkanuM bhogavavAM lokone ApI de to devagatimAM jAya, supara hyumana kahevAya. ane potAnI strI bhogavavA mATe vAMdho nathI, e hakkanuM kahevAya, paNa aNahakkanuM nA bhogavAya. e bhogavavAnAM vicAra che e ja manuSyamAMthI bIje bhave jAnavaramAM javAnI nizAnI che enI e vijhA che, ApaNe eno vijhA joI laIe ne, te khabara paDI jAya. praznakartA : karmano siddhAMta evo che ke manuSyane enAM karmo manuSyayonimAM ja bhogavavA paDe che. dAdAzrI : nA. karmo to ahIM ne ahIM ja bhogavavAnAM. paNa je vicAro karelAM hoya ke konuM bhogavI lauM ne konuM laI lauM ne konuM e karI lauM, evAM saMkalpa-vikalpa karyA hoya, te ene laI jAya tyAM. pelAM to ahIM ne ahIM ja bhogavI le. pAzavatAnuM karma karyuM hoya, te to ahIMnuM ahIM bhogavI le. eno vAMdho nahIM. AMkhe dekhAya evA pAzavatAnA karma karyA hoya te ahIMnAM ahIM ja bhogavavAM paDe. e bhogave kevI rIte ? lokomAM niMdA thAya, lokomAM haDadhUta thAya. paNa je pAzavatAnAM vicAro karyA, saMkalpa-vikalpa kharAba karyA ke Ama karavuM joIe, Ama karavuM joIe, Ama bhogavavuM joIe. yojanAo karI. e yojanA ene jAnavaragatimAM laI jAya. yojanA ghaDe chene mahIM ? nathI ghaDatAM ? e

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna jAnavaragatimAM laI jAya. AmAM bhogavatAro koNa ? praznakartA : sArA karma kare to puNya baMdhAya ane khoTA karma kare to pApa. A pApa-puNya koNa bhogave zarIra ke AtmA ? dAdAzrI : A pApa-puNya je kare che e bhogave che. koNa bhogave che ? ahaMkAra kare che ne ahaMkAra bhogave che. zarIra bhogavatuM nathI ne AtmA ya bhogavato nathI. e ahaMkAra bhogave che. zarIra sAtheno ahaMkAra hoya to zarIra sAthe bhogave. zarIra vagarano ahaMkAra zarIra vagara bhogave. mAnasika khAlI bhogave. praznakartA : mRtyu pachI svarga ke narka jevuM che kharuM ? dAdAzrI : mRtyu pachI svarga ke narka banne ya che. praznakartA : eTale kharAba karma karyA hoya to narkamAM koNa jAya ? AtmA jAya ? dAdAzrI : vaLI AtmA ne zarIra be bheguM ja hoya ne ! praznakartA : marI jAya tyAre zarIra to ahIMyA chUTI gayuM hoya ne ? dAdAzrI tyAM zarIra pachI navuM baMdhAya. narkanuM zarIra juduM baMdhAya, tyAM pArA jevuM zarIra hoya. praznakartA : tyAM zarIra bhogave ke AtmA bhogave ? dAdAzrI : ahaMkAra bhogave. jeNe karelAM hoya ne ! narkanA kAma karyA e bhogave. hiTalare bAMdhyAM kevAM karma ?' hiTalare A lokone mAryA, tenuM phaLa kema nA maLyuM ? eNe mAryA, e badhAM bhegAM kyAMthI thayA ? ene A plena kyAMthI bhegA thayA? A badhuM bheguM kyAMthI thayuM ? bheguM thayuM to mAryA eTale A karmaphaLa hatuM enuM bicArAnuM ? AnuM ya phaLa pAchuM narkagati Avaze. zAstrakAroe pAchuM kahyuM, ahIM je marI gayA ane jagatamAM niMdanIya thaI paDyA to narkagati ke jAnavaramAM Avaze. jagatamAM jo kadI vakhANavA rUpa thayAM ane khyAti enI phelAya to devagati agara manuSyamAM mUkAya bahu to ! eTale AnuM pAchuM phaLa to Ave. eTale A lokone tole joI levuM. khokhetInAM hisAbo prajAsaMga ! praznakartA : A irAnanAM khormanI che ne, khormanI, tyAMnA dharmaguru kaho ke atyAre sattA badhI enA hAthamAM che. IrAnanA meIna kahevAya atyAre e. atyAre lAkho mANaso mare che. duniyAnA badhAM dezoe ene vinaMtI karI ke tame samAdhAna karo. paNa e samAdhAna karavA taiyAra nathI ane lAkho mANasonuM nikaMdana thAya ja che. e kevuM karma ? enI sAthe RNAnubaMdha, lAkho mANaso sAtheno RNAnubaMdha zo ? dAdAzrI : mANaso to e enAM karma bhogavI rahyA che ane e bAMdhI rahyA nathI. e bhogavI rahyA che. praznakartA : ane pelo je mArI rahyo che tenuM ? dAdAzrI : e che to karma bAMdhI rahyo che. e narkagatimAM jaze. praznakartA: A badhAM marI jAya che. eno nimitta to A mAranAra bane che ne ? e kayA kAraNe ? dAdAzrI : nimitta bane che ane tethI e narka jaze. praznakartA: narka jaze barobara che. paNa A banyuM kevI rIte ? kayA hisAbe banyuM hoya ? dAdAzrI : lokono hisAba ! pelA joDeno hisAba nahIM, lokoe gunA karelA tethI evo nimitta maLI Avyo.

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna praznakartA : jene bhogavavAno che eno udaya ? dAdAzrI : manuSyono udaya, jAnavaro ne badhAne. hA, sAmuhika udaya Ave. juone, A hIrozImA ne nAgAsAkIne udaya Avyo hato lokoe gunA karelAM, e koI paNa nimitta maLI AvyuM te emaNe khalAsa karI nAkhyA. A badhAnuM karma e vyaktigata nahIM. A vyaktigata to kyAre kahevAya ? Ama tame amathAM vAtacIta nA karo ane tamane jouM ane mane mahIM ukaLATa thAya e vyaktigata. cheTAM rahIne kAma thAya e vyaktigata nA kahevAya. e kahevAya sAmuhika karmoya ! praznakartA H have A jagatamAM je dharatIkaMpa thAya ane jvALAmukhI phATe, e badhuM kaI zakti kare che ? dAdAzrI : badhuM vyavasthita zakti. vyavasthita zakti dareka cIja kare. eviDansa Ubho thavo joIe. badhI bhegI thaI ke jarAka kaMI kAcuM rahyuM hoyane thoDuMka bheguM thayuM ke phUTyuM haDahaDATa. praznakartA : A vAvAjhoDuM vyavasthita mokale ? dAdAzrI : to bIjuM koNa mokale ? e to vAvAjhoDuM AkhA muMbaI para hoya, paNa keTalAMya mANasane, vAvAjhoDuM AvyuM che ke nahIM ? ema karIne pUche. "alyA mUA, pUcho cho ?" tyAre kahe, 'ame joyeluM nathI haju to ! ahIM AvyuM nathI amAre tyAM." evuM badhuM A to. vAvAjhoDuM muMbaImAM badhAne nA sparze. koIne amuka jAtanuM sparza, koIne AkhuM makAna UDADI de haDahaDATa ane koInI sAdaDIo paDI rahelI nAma nA de. badhuM paddhatisara kAma karI rahyuM che. vAvAjhoDuM Ave tethI bho rAkhavAno nathI. badhuM vyavasthita mokale che. praznakartA : A badhA dharatIkaMpa thAya, sAyaklona (vAvAjhoDA) thAya, laDAI thAya, e badhuM hAni-vRddhinA AdhAre nahIM ? dAdAzrI : nA. karmanA udayane AdhAre e badhAM. badhAM udaya bhogavI rahyAM che. manuSyonI vRddhi thatI hoya ne to ya dharatIkaMpa thayA kare. jo hAni-vRddhinAM AdhIna hoya to nA thAyane ? praznakartA : jevI rIte eka jaNe pApa karyuM, evI rIte sAmuhika pApa kare, eno badalo sAmuhika rIte maLe ? eka jaNa e pote corI karavA gayo ane dasa jaNAM sAthe dhADa pADavA gayA. to eno daMDa sAmuhika maLato haze ? dAdAzrI : hA. phaLa saMpUrNa ya maLavAnuM, paNa daseyane ochuM-vadhatuM. enA kevAM bhAva che te upara. koIka mANasa to ema kaheto hoya ke A mArA kAkAnI jagyAe mAre parANe javuM paDyuM. evAM bhAva hoya. eTale jevo sTroMga bhAva che, e upara hisAba badhA cUkavavAnA. bilakula karekTa. dharmanA kAMTA jevuM. praznakartA : paNa je A kudaratI kopa thatAM haze, A koI jagyAe plena paDyuM ne ATalAM marI gayA ne koI jagyAe koI pelo javALAmukhI phATyo ne be hajAra jaNa marI gayA, e badhA eka sAthenA e sAmuhika daMDanuM pariNAma haze e ? dAdAzrI : e badhAno hisAba badho. eTalAM hisAbavALA ja pakaDAI jAya emAM, koI bIjo pakaDAya nahIM. Aja muMbaI gayo hoyane tyAra pachI kAle dharatIkaMpa ahIM thAya ane muMbaIvALA ahIM AvyA hoya. te muMbaIvALA ahIM mUA hoya, eTale badho hisAba. praznakartA : eTale atyAre je ATaluM badhuM jyAM tyAM badhA mare che, te koI pAMcaso-baso ne badhI saMkhyAo. je pahelAM koI dahADo ATalAM badhAM, samUhamAM maratA jovAmAM hotA AvatAM. to ATaluM badhuM samUha pApa thatuM haze ? dAdAzrI : pahelAM samUha hatAM ya nahIM ne ! atyAre to lAla

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karmanuM vijJAna 70 karmanuM vijJAna vAvaTAvALA nIkaLyA hoya to keTalAM hoya ? e dhoLA vAvaTAvALA keTalAM hoya ? atyAre samUha che te samUhanA kAma. pahelAM samUha hatAM ya nahIM ne ! praznakartA : haM... eTale kudaratI kopa e samUhanuM ja pariNAma ne ! A anAvRSTi thavI, A koI jagyAe khUba pUra AvI javA, koI jagyAe dharatIkaMpa thaIne lAkho marI javA. dAdAzrI : badhuM A lokonuM pariNAma. praznakartA : eTale je vakhate daMDamAM AvavAno hoya, tyAre game tyAMthI kheMcAIne ahIM AvI ja gayo hoya. dAdAzrI : e kudarata ja lAvI nAkhe tyAM ane bAphI nAkhe, zekI nAkhe. ene plenamAM lAvIne plena pADe. praznakartA : hA dAdA. evAM dAkhalA jovAmAM Ave che ke je janAro hoya, te koI kAraNasara rahI jAya ane koI dahADo nA janAro hoya, te pelAnI TikiTa laIne mahIM besI gayo hoya. pachI plena paDI bhAMge. dAdAzrI : nA, plasa-mAInasa nA thAya. paNa ene bhogavaTAmAM ochA karI zakAya. plasa-mAInasano to A duniyA che ne tyArathI kAyado ja nathI. nahIM to loko akkalavALA ja lAbha uThAvI jAta ema karIne. kAraNa ke so puNyanA kare ane dasa pApa kare, e dasa bAda karIne mArA nevuM che, jame karajo, kaheze. te akkalavALA to phAvI jAya badhA. A to kahe che, A puNya bhogava ane pachI A dasa pApa bhogava. praznakartA : dAdA, ApaNe ahaMkAra vagara koI paNa satkarma thAya athavA koI saMsthAne hospiTala ke ene paisA Ape to ApaNA karmo pramANe je bhogavavuM paDe e ochuM thAya e sAcI vAta ? dAdAzrI : nA, ochuM nA thAya. ochuM-vadhatuM nA thAya. e bIjA karma baMdhAya. bIjA puNyanA karma baMdhAya. paNa te ApaNe ko'kane godo mArI AvyA enuM phaLa to bhogavavuM paDe, nahIM to jANe badhA vepArI loko pelA bAda karIne pachI napho ekalo ja rAkhe. e evuM nathI. kAyadA bahu suMdara che. eka godo mAryo hoya tenuM phaLa Avaze. so puNyamAMthI be bAda nahIM thAya. be pApe kharuM ane so peluM puNya paNa kharuM. banne judA bhogavavAnA. praznakartA : eTale A zubha karma karIe ane azubha karma karIe, bannenuM phaLa juduM maLe ? - dAdAzrI : azubhanuM azubha phaLa Ape ja. zubhanuM zubha Apaze. kazuM ochuM-vatuM thAya nahIM. bhagavAnane tyAM kAyado kevo che ? ke tame Aje zubhakarma karyuM eTale so rUpiyA dAna ApyA, to so rUpiyA jame kare e ane pAchA pAMca rUpiyA ko'kane gALa bhAMDI udhAryA, tamAre khAte udhAre e. e paMcANuM jame nA kare. e pAMca udhAre ya kare ne so jame ya kare. bahu pAkAM che. nahIM to A vepArI loko, pharI duHkha ja nA paDe evuM hoya ne, e to jameudhAra karIne emanuM jame ja hoya ane to pachI koI mokSe jAya ja nahIM. ahIM AgaLa Akho dA'Do puNya ne puNya hoya. pachI koNa jAya mokSe ? A kAyado ja evo che ke so jame kare dAdAzrI : hisAba badho. padhdhatasara nyAya. bilakula dharmanA kAMTA jevuM. kAraNa ke eno mAlika nathI, mAlika hoya to to anyAya thAya. praznakartA : era inDiyAnuM plena tUTI gayuM. e badhAnuM nimitta hatuM, A vyavasthita hatuM ? dAdAzrI : hisAba ja. hisAba vagara kazuM bane nahIM. pApa-puNyanuM na thAya plasa-mAInasa ! praznakartA : pApakarma ane puNyakarmanuM plasa-mAInasa thaIne neTamAM rIjhalTa Ave che bhogavaTAmAM ?

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karmanuM vijJAna karmanuM vijJAna ne pAMca udhAre ya kare. bAdabAkI karavAnI nahIM. eTale mANasane jame karyuM hoya te pAchuM bhogavavuM paDe, te purve game nahIM pAchuM, bahu puNya bheguM thayeluM hoya ne, dasa dA'DA, paMdara dA'DA jamavAnuM karavAnuM, badhuM lagana-bagana cAlatAM hoya, game nahIM, kaMTALo Ave. bahu puNyamAM ya kaMTALo Ave. bahu pApamAM ya kaMTALo Ave. paMdara dA'DA sudhI senTa ne attaro Ama ghasaghasa karatAM hoya, jamADo khuba, to ya khIcaDI khAvA ghera nAsI jAya. kAraNa ke A sAcuM sukha nathI. A kalpeluM sukha che. sAcuM sukha koI dA'Do abhAve ya nA thAya. e AtmAnuM je sAcuM sukha che, eno abhAva kyAre ya paNa nA thAya. A to kalpita sukha che. karmabaMdhanamAMthI muktino mArga.. praznakartA : purnajanmamAM karmabaMdha ukelavAno rasto zo ? ApaNane ema sAdhAraNa khabara che ke gayA bhavamAM ApaNe sArA ke khoTA karma badhA karelAM ja che, to enAthI ukela lAvavAno zo rasto ? dAdAzrI : A ko'ka tane herAna karatuM hoya, to tuM have samajI jauM ke meM emanI joDe pUrvabhavamAM kharAba karma karyA che, tenuM A phaLa Ape che. to tAre zAMti ane samatAthI eno niveDo lAvavAno. zAMti rahe nahIM potAthI ne pharI bIja nAkhuM tuM. eTale pUrvajanmanAM baMdhana ukelavAno eka ja rasto, zAMti ane samatA. enA mATe kharAba vicAra paNa na Avavo joIe ane mAro ja hisAba bhogavuM chuM evuM hovuM joIe. A je karI rahyo che e mArA pApane AdhAre ja, huM ja mArA pApa bhogavI rahyo chuM, evuM lAgavuM joIe, to chUTakAro thAya. ane kharekhara tamArA ja karmanA udayathI e duHkha de che. e to nimitta che. AkhuM jagata nimitta che, du:kha denAra ! so Dolara rastAmAM laI lenArA badhA ya nimitta che. tamAro ja hisAba che. tamane A InAma kyAMthI pahelA naMbaranuM lAgyuM ? Amane kema nathI lAgatuM ? so Dolara laI lIdhA, e InAma nA kahevAya ? prArthatAnuM mahatva, karma bhogavaTAmAM ! praznakartA: dAdA, huM prazna ema pUchato hato ke je prArabdha to banI gayuM che, koIne mAMdu paDavAnuM che ke koIne kaMI nukasAna javAnuM che, to prArthanAthI e badalAya kharuM ? dAdAzrI : evuM che ne, prArabdhano bhAga che. prArabdhanA prakAra hoya che. eka prakAra evo hoya che e prArthanA karavAthI UDI jAya. bIjo prakAra evo che ke tame sAdhAraNa puruSArtha karo to uDI jAya ane trIjo prakAra evo che ke tame game teTalo puruSArtha karone bhogavyA vagara chUTako ja nA thAya. bahu cIkaNo hoya. te koI mANasa ApaNI upara, kapaDAM upara theMkyo, ene Ama dhovA jaIe to moLuM hoya to pANI reDIe to dhovAI jAya. bahu cIkaNuM hoya to ? praznakartA : nA nIkaLe. dAdAzrI : evI ja rIte karmo cIkaNAM hoya che. ene nikAcita karma kahyAM. praznakartA : paNa karma bahu cIkaNuM hoya to ya prArthanAthI kazo phera nA paDe ? dAdAzrI : kazuM phera nA paDe. paNa prArthanAthI te ghaDIe sukha thAya. praznakartA : bhogavavAnI zakti maLe ? dAdAzrI : nahIM, e tamAre je du:kha AvyuM che ne ! du:khamAM sukhano bhAga lAge, prArthanAne laIne paNa prArthanA rahI zakavI, e muzkela che. A saMjogo kharAba hoya ane mana jyAre bagaDeluM hoya te ghaDIe prArthanA rahevI muzkela che. rahe to bahu uttamatA kahevAya. te dAdA bhagavAna jevAne saMbhArIne bolAvo tyAre, ke je zarIramAM pote rahetA nA hoya. zarIranA mAlika nA hoya emane jo saMbhArIne bolAve to rahe, nahIMtara nA rahe ! praznakartA : nahIM to te saMjogomAM prArthanA yAda ja nA Ave.

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karmanuM vijJAna 74 karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : yAda ja na Ave. yAda ja uDADI mele, bhAna ja UDI jAya badhuM. deva-devInI bAdhAtuM baMdhata ? praznakartA : koI paNa deva-devInI bAdhA rAkhavAthI karmabaMdhana thAya kharuM ? dAdAzrI : bAdhA rAkhavAthI karmabaMdhana avazya thAya. bAdhA eTale zuM ke emanI pAsethI ApaNe maherabAnI mAMgI. eTale e maherabAnI kare ya kharAM, eTale tame emane badalo Apo. ane tethI ja karma baMdhAya. praznakartA : saMta puruSanA sahavAsathI karmabaMdhana chUTe kharAM ? dAdAzrI : karmabaMdhana ochAM thaI jAya ane puNyanA karma baMdhAya paNa e ene nukasAna na kare. pelA pApanA nA baMdhAya. jAgRti karmabaMdhanatI sAme.... praznakartA : karma nA baMdhAya, enA mATe rasto zuM ? dAdAzrI : A kahyuM ne, tarata ja bhagavAnane kahI devuM , arere ! meM AvAM AvAM kharAba vicAra karyA. have je AvyA che e to eno hisAba haze tyAM sudhI raheze paNa mAre to A atyAre kyAMthI mUA ! e meM hisAba bAMdhyo. tenI kSamA mAMguM chuM, pharI AvuM nahIM karuM. praznakartA : koI khUna kare ane pachI pAcho bhagavAnane Avo pastAvo karIne kahe, to kevI rItanA chUTe karma ? dAdAzrI : hA, chUTe. khUna karIne rAjI thAya to karma kharAba baMdhAya ne khUna karIne Avo pastAvo karavAthI karma halakuM thAya ! praznakartA game te kare to ya karma to baMdhAyuM ja ne ? dAdAzrI : baMdhAI ne chUTe ya che. khUna thayuM ne e karma chUTayuM che. te vakhate baMdhAya kyAre ? manamAM ema thAya ke A khUna karavAM ja joIe. to pharI navuM baMdhAyuM. A karma pUruM chUTayuM ke chUTatI vakhate pastAvo karIe ne, to chUTAze. mAryo e bahu moTuM nukasAna kare. A mAryo tenI apakIrti thaze, zarIramAM jAta jAtanAM roga utpanna thaI jaze, bhogavavA paDaze. ahIMnuM ahIM ja bhogavavAnuM. navuM karma cIkaNuM nahIM baMdhAya. A karmaphaLa che, e bhogavavAnuM. mAryo te ja karmanA udayathI mAryo ane mAryo eTale karmaphaLa bhogavavAnuM paNa sAcA dilathI pastAvo le to navAM karma DhIlAM thaI jAya. mAravAthI navuM karma baMdhAya kyAre ? ke mAravo ja joIe, e navuM karma. rAjIkhuzIthI mAre to karma cIkaNuM baMdhAya ane pastAvApUrvaka kare to karma DhIlAM thaI jAya. ulhAse bAMdhelAM karma pazcAttApa karIne nAza pAme. eka musalamAnane enAM bIbI ne chokarAM pajavatAM hoya ke mAMsAhAra tame khavaDAvatA nathI. tyAre kahe, paisA nathI, zuM khavaDAvuM ? to kahe, haraNa mArI lAvo. to chAnomAno jaIne haraNa mArI lAvyo ane khavaDAvyuM. have ene doSa beTho ane evuM ne evuM haraNa eka rAjAno chokaro hato, te zikAra karavA gayo. te zikAra karIne khuza thaI gayo. have pelAM haraNa to beu maryA. A enAM mojazokhanI mATe mAre che, pelo khAvA mATe mAre che. have je khAya che, ene AnuM phaLa manuSyamAMthI jAnavara thAya, te musalamAna ! ane rAjAno chokaro zokhamoja zokha mATe kare che, khAto nathI, sAmAne mArI nAkhe che. potAnAM kaMI paNa lAbha vagara, potAne kaMI lAbha bIjo thato nathI ane nakAmo zikAra karIne mArI nAkhe che. mATe enuM phaLa narkagati Ave che. karma eka ja prakAranuM paNa bhAva judA judA. pelo to enA chokarA mAthAkUTa kare eTalAM hAruM bicAro ane A to mojazokhanI mATe jIvo mAre, zikArano zokha hoya che ne ! pachI tyAMnuM tyAM haraNuM paDI rahe, enI kaMI paDelI nahIM. paNa zuM kahe pAcho ? jo ekkekTa dhAryuM ne AvuM pADayuM ene. A TrAphikanA laoNjha ApaNe nA samajIe, to pachI TrAphikamAM mArI ja nAkhane, sAmasAmI ! paNa e to AvaDe badhAne ! 'A' AvaDe evAM nathI, eTale amArA jevA zIkhavADanArA joIe.

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karmanuM vijJAna 75 karmanuM vijJAna phAMsInI sajAnuM jajate zuM baMdhata ? eka jaja mane kahe ke, "sAheba, tame mane jJAna to ApyuM ane have mAre korTamAM tyAM dehAntadaMDanI zikSA karavI ke nahIM ? tyAre meM ene kahyuM, "ene zuM karazo, dehAntadaMDanI zikSA nahIM Apo to ?!' eNe kahyuM, 'paNa ApuM to mAre doSa bese.' pachI ene rIta batAvI ke tamAre A kahevuM ke, "he bhagavAna, mAre bhAge A kAma kyAM AvyuM te ?" ane tenuM dilathI pratikramaNa karajo ne bIjuM gavarmenTanA (sarakAranA) kAyadA pramANe kAma karyuM jajo. praznakartA: koIne ApaNe du:kha pahoMcADIe ane pachI ApaNe pratikramaNa karI laIe, paNa ene jabarajasta AghAta-Thesa lAgI hoya to enAthI ApaNane karma nA baMdhAya ? dAdAzrI : ApaNe enA nAmanAM pratikramaNa karyA karIe, ne ene jeTalAM pramANamAM duHkha thayuM hoya, eTalA pramANamAM pratikramaNa karavAM paDe. ApaNe to pratikramaNa karyA karavAnAM, bIjI javAbadArI ApaNI nathI. haMmezAM koI paNa kAryano pastAvo karo, eTale e kAryanuM phaLa bAra AnI nAza ja thaI jAya che. pachI baLelI dorI hoyane, enAM jevuM phaLa Ave. te baLelI doraDI Avate bhava Ama ja karIe, te UDI jAya. koI kriyA ema ne ema nakAmI to jAya ja nahIM. pratikramaNa karavAthI e doraDI saLagI jAya che. paNa DijhAIna tenI te ja rahe che. paNa Avate bhave zuM karavuM paDe ? Ama ja karyuM. khaMkherI ke UDI gaI. japa-tapathI karma baMdhAya ke khape ? praznakartA japa-tapamAM karma baMdhAya ke karma khape ? dAdAzrI: emAM karma ja baMdhAya ne ! dareka bAbatamAM karma ja baMdhAya. rAtre sUI jAya to ya karma baMdhAya ane A japa-tapa kare, emAM to moTA karma baMdhAya. paNa e puNyanA baMdhAya. tenAMthI AvatA bhave bhautika sukho maLe che. praznakartA : to karma khapAvavA mATe dharmanI zakti keTalI ? dAdAzrI : dharma-adharma beu karmo khapAvI Ape, saMsArika baMdhAyelA karmo ne ! vijJAna hoya to tarata karmane nAza karI de. vijJAna hoya to karma nAza thAya. dharmathI puNyakarma baMdhAya ane adharmathI pApakarma baMdhAya ane AtmajJAnathI karmo nAza, bhasmibhUta thaI jAya. praznakartA : dharma ane adharma, beune khapAvato hoya to ene dharma kema kahevAya ? dAdAzrI : dharmathI puNyanA karma baMdhAya ane adharmathI pApanA karma baMdhAya. hamaNAM dhola mAre tyAre zuM thAya ? ko'ka dhola mAre to zuM karo tame ? ene be ApI do ne ! Dabala karIne Ape. khoTa khavaDAvyA vinA Ape che, eTaluM Dabala karIne. e tamArA pApano udaya Avyo, tethI pelAne dhola mAravAnuM mana thayuM. tamAro karmano udaya tamane bIjA pAse dhola marAvaDAve che, pelo nimitta banyo. have eka dhola Ape, to ApaNe kahI devAnuM ke patI gayo hisAba ApaNo. huM jame karI dauM chuM ne jame karI devAno. pahelAM ApelI, te pAcho ApI gayo. jame karI devAnuM, navuM dhIravuM nahIM. gamatuM hoya to dhIravuM. game kharuM ? nahIM ? to dhIravuM nahIM. ApaNAM puNyano udayakarma hoya to sAmo sAruM bole ne pApano udayakarma hoya to sAmo gALa Ape che. emAM kono doSa ? mATe ApaNe kaheluM ke udayakarma mAro ja che ane sAmo to nimitta. Ama karavAthI ApaNo doSa nirjarI jaze. ne navo nahIM baMdhAya. karma akarma dazAnI sthiti ! praznakartA : koI paNa khoTuM kAma karIe eTale karma to baMdhAya ja evuM huM mAnuM chuM.

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karmanuM vijJAna 78 karmanuM vijJAna dAdAzrI : to sArA karmanuM baMdhana nathI ? praznakartA : sAruM ne khoTuM, beuthI karma baMdhAyane ! dAdAzrI : are ! atyAre hau tame karma bAMdhI rahyo cho ! atyAre tame bahu puNyanuM karma bAMdhI rahyA cho ! paNa karma kyAre ya baMdhAya nahIM evo divasa nathI Avato ne ? enuM zuM kAraNa haze ? praznakartA : kaMI pravRti to karatA ja hoIzuM ne sArI agara kharAba ? dAdAzrI : hA, paNa karma baMdhAya nahIM, evo rasto nahIM hoya ? bhagavAna mahAvIra zI rIte karma bAMdhyA vagara chuTyA haze ? A deha hoya to karma to thayA ja karavAnA ! saMDAsa javuM paDe, badhuM nA karavuM paDe ? praznakartA : hA, paNa je karma bAMdhyA hoya, enAM phaLa pAchAM bhogavavAM paDe ne ! dAdAzrI : karma bAMdhe to to pAcho Avato bhava thayA vagara rahe nahIM ! eTale karma bAMdhe to AvatA bhavamAM javuM paDe ! paNa A bhavamAM mahAvIrane AvatA bhavamAM javuM nahotuM paDyuM ! to kaMIka rasto to haze ne ! karma karIe chatAM karma nA baMdhAya evo ? praznakartA : haze. dAdAzrI : tamane evI IcchA thAya che ke karma nA baMdhAya ? karma karavA chatAM karma baMdhAya nahIM evuM vijJAna hoya che. e vijJAna jANo. eTale chUTo thAya ! taDe ajJAnatA, nahIM karma re. praznakartA : ApaNAM karmanA phaLane lIdhe A janma maLe che ne ? dAdAzrI : hA, A AkhI jiMdagI karmanA phaLa bhogavavAno che ! ane emAMthI navA karma UbhAM thAya che, jo rAga-dveSa kare to ! jo rAgadvaSa nA kare to kazuM ya nathI. karmano vAMdho nathI, karma to A zarIra che eTale thavAnAM ja, paNa rAga-dveSa kare teno vAMdho che. vItarAgo zuM kahe che ke vItarAga thAva ! A jagatamAM kaMI paNa kAma karo cho, temAM kAmanI kiMmata nathI paNa enI pAchaLa rAga-dveSa thAya to ja AvatA bhavano hisAba baMdhAya che. rAga-dveSa thatAM nA hoya to javAbadAra nathI ! Akho deha, janmathI te maraNa sudhI pharajiyAta che. emAMthI rAgadveSa je thAya che, eTalo ja hisAba baMdhAya che. eTale vItarAgo zuM kahe che ke vItarAga thaIne mokSe cAlyA jAva ! amane to koI gALa bhAMDe to ame jANIe ke e aMbAlAla paTelane gALo bhAMDe che, pudgalane gALo bhAMDe che. AtmAne to e jANI zake nahIM, oLakhI zake nahIM ne, eTale "ame" svIkArIe nahIM. amane aDe ja nahIM, ame vItarAga rahIe ! amane enI para rAgadveSa nA thAya. eTale pachI eka avatArI ke be avatArI thaIne badhuM khalAsa thaI jAya ! vItarAga eTaluM ja kahevA mAMge che ke karma naDatAM nathI, tArI ajJAnatA naDe che ! ajJAnatA zenI? 'huM koNa chuM" enI. deha che tyAM sudhI karma to thayA ja karavAnAM, paNa ajJAna jAya eTale karma baMdhAtA baMdha thaI jAya ! karmatI nirjarA kyAre thAya ? praznakartA : karma thatAM kyAre aTake ? dAdAzrI : 'zuddhAtmA chuM' eno anubhava hovo joIe. eTale tuM zuddhAtmA thauM tyAra pachI karmabaMdha aTakaze, karmanI nirjarA thayA kare

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karmanuM vijJAna 79 ane karma thatAM aTake ! eTale karma nA baMdhAya, teno rasto zuM ? svabhAva bhAvamAM AvavuM te. 'jJAnI puruSa' potAnA svarUpanuM bhAna karAvaDAve, pachI karma nA baMdhAya. pachI navA karmo cArja nA thAya. jUnA karmo DiscArja thayA kare ne badhAM ja karmo pUrA thaI jAya eTale aMte mokSa thAya ! A karmanI vAta tamane samajaNa paDI AmAM ! jo kartA thAya to karma baMdhAya. have kartApaNuM chUTI jAya, eTale pachI karma bAMdhe nahIM. eTale tame Aje karma bAMdho cho, paNa jyAre huM tamane kartApaNuM choDAvI daIza eTale tamane karma baMdhAze nahIM ane jUnA che te bhogavI levAnA. jUno hisAba eTale cUkate thaI jAya ane "kaoNjha' UbhAM nahIM thAya. "IphekTa ekalI raheze ane pachI IphekTa paNa pUrepUrI bhogavAI jAya ke saMpUrNa mokSa thaI gayo ! - jaya saccidAnaMda saMparka sUtro pUjya DaoN. nIrubahena amIna tathA Aptaputra dIpakabhAI desAI amadAvAda muMbaI dAdA darzana, 5, mamatApArka sosAyaTI, 904-bI, navInaAzA epArTamenTa, navagujarAta kolejanI pAchaLa, dAdAsAheba phALake roDa, usmAnapurA, amadAvAda - 380014. | dAdara (se.re.), phonaH (079)7540408, 7543979 muMbaI - 400014. E-Mail: info @dadabhagwan.org | phona : (022) 241376 16 aDAlaja : trimaMdira saMkula, sImaMdhara sITI, amadAvAda-kalola hAIve, aDAlaja, jI.gAMdhInagara-382421. phonaH (079) 397 102 thI 106 rAjakoTa : zrI atula mAladhArI, mAdhavaprema epArTamenTa, mAI maMdiranI sAme, 11, manahara ploTa, rAjakoTa. phona:(0281)468830, 238925 surata : zrI viThThalabhAI paTela, 35, zAMtivana sosAyaTI, laMbe hanumAna roDa, paMcaratna TAvara pAchaLa, surata. phona : (0261) 8544964 godharA : zrI ghanazyAma varIyA, sI-11, AnaMdanagara sosAyaTI, sAyansa kolejanI pAchaLa, godharA. phona : (02672) 51875 U.S.A. : Dada Bhagwan Vignan Institue : Dr. Bachu Amin, 902 SW Mifflin Rd, Topeka, Kansas 66606, U.S.A. Tel : 785-271-0869, E-mail: bamin@cox.net Dr. Shirish Patel, 2659, Raven Circle, Corona, CA 92882 Tel. : 909-734-4715, E-mail : spatelspatel@yahoo.com U.K. : Mr. Maganbhai Patel, 2, Winifred Terrace, Enfield, Great Cambridge Road, London, Middlesex, ENI 1HH, U.K. Tel: 020-8245-1751 Mr. Ramesh Patel, 636, Kenton Road, Kenton Harrow Tel.:020-8204-0746, E-mail: dadabhagwan_uk@yahoo.com Canada : Mr. Bipin Purohit, 151, Trillium Road, Montreal, Quebec HoB 1T3. Tel. : 514-421-0522 Africa : Mr. Manu Savla, PISU & Co., Box No. 18219, Nairobi, Kenya. Tel: (R) 254-2-744943 (O) 254-2-554836 Website : www.dadabhagwan.org, www.dadashri.org