Book Title: Aptavani 01
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-1 189 190 Aptavani-1 Dadashri : Yes, a great difference. Say if your income is a thousand rupees a month, your expense should be around eight hundred rupees a month and if your income is five hundred rupees a month, your expense should be around four hundred rupees. That is called being frugal. But a miser will spend only four hundred rupees whether his salary is a thousand rupees or two thousand rupees. He would rather walk than take a taxi. Frugality is economics; it helps make provision for future problems. People become imitated with miserly people, not with those who are frugal. In fact frugality and miserliness are relative values. A generous person will not like even a frugal person. All these problems arise from the terminology of the worldly language - some people may say that it is not good to be over generous. But a frugal person would never give up his economic approach and a miser will remain a miser. Excessive generosity or miserliness are natural attributes, and no matter how hard a person tries, these attributes cannot be changed. All prakrut (the non-Self) attributes are natural. Ultimately normality will be needed in everything. As far as I am concerned, even the money that my business partner gives me will be used only for the taxi fare or the train fare. For me there is neither the inclination to want to spend nor the inclination to not want to spend. There is no decision either way. Money is not to be wasted. It is to be used as needed. This Dada is very precise, frugal and also generous. He is very generous but completely adjustable. He is very generous but at the same time he is frugal. He is generous where others are concemed and for himself he is frugal and in satsang he is very precise. People notice that I use my speech sparingly in satsang. My economy is adjustable; it is the finest. I am frugal even when I use water. For me these attributes are natural and spontaneous. Vishaya : Subjects Of Enjoyment The world says that vishayas (sex and other topics or subjects that engages the attention of the self) does not allow one to achieve liberation. The term vishaya means a subject or a topic in English. There are endless subjects in this world. If these subjects (vishayas) were truly an obstacle to liberation, then no one would have ever achieved liberation. Visahayas did not stop Lord Mahavir from achieving liberation, then why do they become an obstacle for you? It is not vishayas that hinders your liberation; it is your own obstinacy. The Lord remained nirvishayi-detached from vishaya despite living amindst countless vishayas and acquired liberation. What is vishaya? It is anything in which the mind becomes absorbed and delights. Anything in which the mind, buddhi, chit and ego become engrossed in, is vishaya. How many kinds of vishayas are there? There are endless vishayas. If you see a rose that you like in a garden and you run after it, then it is a vishaya. If you keep being reminded of diamonds - it is vishaya. If after acquiring it you are not reminded of it again, then it has been settled with equanimity. If you keep remembering it, then it is not settled and that is indeed a vishaya. It is natural for desire to arise, but it is harmful and obstructive to liberation to continue to desire. Women will look at sarees, but if they keep thinking about them, that is their vishaya. Discord is a result of interactions of vishaya. Abundant vishayas will confront those who are on the path of liberation. However this Akram path of liberation is Dada Bhagwan's path of liberation, where one can remain nirvishayee amidst endless vishayas! A diseased person (one with excess anger, greed, pride and attachment) is more susceptible to passion and sensuality.

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