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भगवती सूत्रम् शः ९ उ: ३३
वागरेहि-सासए लोए जमाली! असासए लोए जमाली! सासए जीवे जमाली ! असासए जीवे जमाली ! तएणं से जमाली अणगारे भगवया गोयमेणं एवं वुत्ते समाणे संकिए कंखिए जाव...कलुससमावण्णे जाए या वि होत्था णो संचायइ भगवओ गोयमस्स किंचि वि पमोक्खं आइक्खित्तए तुसिणीए संचिट्ठइ।
On hearing these words of Jamāli, Indrabhūti Gautama spoke unto him as follows : "Monk Jamāli ! The knowledge and faith of omniscient personality is neither overshadowed nor obstructed by a mountain, a pillar or a mound. If you have really become a victor, a jina, a kevali, and live like that, will you care to meet a couple of questions I intend to put to you. They are : Is the universe (loka) eternal or transcient ? Is the encased soul (jiva) eternal or transcient ?" On hearing these questions put to him by Indrabhūti Gautama, Jamali was afraid, terror-stricken, till confused. He was unable to meet the questions and stood dumb.
जमाली !त्ति समणे भगवं महावीरे जमालिं' अणगारं एवं वयासी-अत्थि णं जमाली ! ममं बहवे अंतेवासी समणा णिग्गथा छउमत्था जे णं पभू एयं वागरणं वागरित्तए जहा णं अहं णो चेव णं एयप्पगारं भासं भासित्तए जहा णं तुमं । सासए लोए जमाली! जं णं कयाइ णासी ण कयाइ ण भवइ ण कयाइ ण भविस्सइ । भुवि च भवइ य भविस्सइ य । धुवे णिइए सासए अक्खए अव्वए अवट्ठिए णिच्चे। असासए लोए जमाली! जं ओसप्पिणी भवित्ता उस्सप्पिणी भवइ उस्सप्पिणी भवित्ता ओसप्पिणी भवइ। सासए जीवे जमाली ! जं ण कयाइ णासी जाव...णिच्चे। असासए जीवे जमाली ! जं णं णेरइए भवित्ता तिरिक्खजोणिए भवइ तिरिक्खजोणिए भवित्ता मणुस्से भवइ मणुस्से भवित्ता देवे भवइ ।
Thereon Bhagavān Mahävīra addressed him as follows ; “Jamāli ! Many of my monks are, as you say, very ordinary
ersons, but they are able to meet these questions as much as I: but, unlike vou. they never acclaim themselves to be victors, jinas or kevalis.” Continued Bhagavān Mahāvīra, "Jamāli ! This universe is in one sense, eternal, and it is not that it never was, it has always been, it is and it will ever be. The
