Mai Kaun Hun

Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation
Catalog link: https://jainqq.org/explore/009591/1

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jIvana kA dhyeya yadi yaha saMsAra Apako pusAtA harakata nahIM karatA ) ho to Age kucha bhI samajhane kI jarUrata nahIM hai aura yadi yaha saMsAra Apako kucha harakata karatA ho to adhyAtma jAnane kI jarUrata hai / adhyAtma meM 'sva-rUpa' ko jAnane kI jarUrata hai| maiM kauna hU~.' yaha jAnane para sAre pajala solva ho jAyeM / - dAdAzrI 1 418972592-0 9 788189 725921 dAdA bhagavAna prarUpita maiM kauna hU~ ? 9 DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna

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dAdA bhagavAna prarUpita prakAzaka : zrI ajIta sI. paTela mahAvideha phAunDezana 5, mamatApArka sosAyaTI, navagujarAta kaoNleja ke pIche, usmAnapurA, ahamadAbAda - 380014, gujarAta phona - (079) 27540408, 27543979 E-Mail : info@dadabhagwan.org a All Rights reserved - Dr. Niruben Amin Trimandir, Simandhar City, Ahmedabad-Kalol Highway, Post - Adalaj, Dist.-Gandhinagar-382421, Gujarat, India. maiM kauna hU~? prathama saMskaraNa : prata 3000, dvitiya saMskaraNa : prata 4400, tRtiya saMskaraNa : prata 5000, navambara 2004 agasta 2005 mArca 2005 bhAva mUlya : 'parama vinaya' aura 'maiM kucha bhI jAnatA nahIM', yaha bhAva! dravya mUlya : 5 rupaye lesara kampojha : dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana, ahamadAbAda, saMkalana : DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna mudraka : mahAvideha phAunDezana (priMTiMga DivIz2ana), pArzvanAtha caimbarsa, naye riz2arva baiMka ke pAsa, inkamaTaiksa eriyA, ahamadAbAda-380014. phona : (079) 27542964, 27540216

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trimaMtra 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna ? jUna 1958 kI eka saMdhyA kA karIba chaH baje kA samaya, bhIr3a se bharA sUrata zahara kA relve stteshn| pleTaphArma naM. 3 kI beMca para baiThe zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela rUpI dehamaMdira meM kudaratI rUpa se, akrama rUpa meM, kaI janmoM se vyakta hone ke lie Atura 'dAdA bhagavAna' pUrNa rUpa se pragaTa hue| aura kudarata ne sarjita kiyA adhyAtma kA adbhuta Azcarya / eka ghaNTe meM unako vizva darzana huA / 'maiM kauna ? bhagavAna kauna ? jagata kauna calAtA hai ? karma kyA ? mukti kyA ?' ityAdi jagata ke sAre AdhyAtmika praznoM ke saMpUrNa rahasya prakaTa hue| isa taraha kudarata ne vizva ke sanmukha eka advitIya pUrNa darzana prastuta kiyA aura usake mAdhyama bane zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, carotara kSetra ke bhAdaraNa gA~va ke pATIdAra, kAnTrekTa kA vyavasAya karane vAle, phira bhI pUrNatayA vItarAga puruSa ! unheM prApti huI, usI prakAra kevala do hI ghaNToM meM anya mumukSu janoM ko bhI ve AtmajJAna kI prApti karavAte the, unake adbhuta siddha hue jJAnaprayoga se / use akrama mArga kahA / akrama, arthAta binA krama ke, aura krama arthAta sIr3hI dara sIr3hI, kramAnusAra upara cddh'naa| akrama arthAta liphTa mArga / zaoNrTa kaTa / ApazrI svayaM pratyeka ko 'dAdA bhagavAna kauna ?' kA rahasya batAte hue kahate the ki "yaha dikhAI denevAle dAdA bhagavAna nahIM hai, ve to 'e. ema. paTela' hai| hama jJAnI puruSa haiM aura bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' haiN| dAdA bhagavAna to caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| ve Apa meM bhI haiN| sabhI meM haiN| ApameM avyakta rUpa meM rahe hue haiM aura 'yahA~' saMpUrNa rUpa se vyakta hue haiN| dAdA bhagavAna ko maiM bhI namaskAra karatA hU~ / " 'vyApAra meM dharma honA cAhie, dharma meM vyApAra nahIM, isa siddhAMta se unhoMne pUrA jIvana bitaayaa| jIvana meM kabhI bhI unhoMne kisI ke pAsa se paisA nahIM liyaa| balki apane vyavasAya kI atirikta kamAI se bhaktoM ko yAtrA karavAte the|

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AtmajJAna prApti kI pratyakSa lIMka ! 'maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karanevAlA huuN| pIche anugAmI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie ? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na ?" - dAdAzrI parama pUjya dAdAzrI gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza paribhramaNa karake mumukSu jIvoM ko satsaMga aura svarupa jJAna kI prApti karAte the| ApazrI ne apanI hayAta meM hI pUjya DaoN. nIrabahana amIna ko AtmajJAna pradAna kI jJAnasiddhi pradAna kI thii| parama pUjya dAdAzrI ke dehavilaya ke pazcAt Aja bhI pUjya DaoN. nIrabahana amIna gA~va-gA~va, deza-videza ghUmakara mumukSu jIvoM ko satsaMga aura AtmajJAna kI prApti nimitta bhAva se karA rahI hai| hajAroM mumukSuoM isakA lAbha pAkara AtmaramaNatA kA anubhava karate haiM aura saMsAra meM rahakara jimmevAriyA~ nibhAte hue mukta raha sakate haiN| dAdA bhagavAna phAunDezana ke dvArA prakAzita hindI - aMgrejI pustakeM jJAnI purUSa kI pahacAna sarva duHkho se mukti karma kA vijJAna Atmabodha yathArtha dharma (prakAzanAdhIna) jagata kartA kauna? (prakAzanAdhIna) aMta:karaNa kA svarUpa (prakAzanAdhIna) maiM kauna hU~? TakarAva TAlie 10 huA so nyAya eDajasTa evarIvheyara 12. bhUgate usI kI bhUla 13 vartamAna tIrthakara zrI sImaMdhara svAmI Adjust Everywhere 2. The Fault of the sufferer Whatever has happened is Justice Avoid Clashes Anger 6. Worries 7. The Essence of All Religion 8. Shree Simandhar Swami 9. Pure Love 10. Death : Before, During & After... 11. Gnani Purush Shri A.M.Patel 12. Who Am I? 13. The Science of Karma 14. Ahimsa (Non-violence) 15. Money 16. Celibacy : Brahmcharya 17. Harmony in Marriage 18. Pratikraman 19. Flawless Vision 20. Generation Gap 21. Apatvani-1 graMtha meM mudrita vANI mokSArthI ko mArgadarzaka ke rupa meM atyaMta upayogI siddha ho, lekina mokSaprApti hetu AtmajJAna pAnA jarUrI hai| akrama mArga ke dvArA AtmajJAna kI prApti Aja bhI jArI hai, isake lie pratyakSa AtmajJAnI ko milakara AtmajJAna kI prApti kare tabhI saMbhava hai| prajvalita dIpaka hI dUsarA dIpaka prajvalita kara sakatA hai|

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saMpAdakIya jIvana meM jo kucha bhI sAmane AyA, usakA pUrNa rUpa se rIyalAijezana kiye bagaira manuSya usako apanAtA nahIM hai| saba kA rIyalAijezana kiyA. mAtra 'selpha' kA hI rIyalAiz2ezana nahIM kiyA hai| anaMta janmoM se maiM kauna hU~' usakI pahacAna hI aTakI huI hai, isalie to isa bhaTakana kA aMta nahIM hotA! usakI pahacAna kaise ho? jise khuda kI pahacAna ho gaI ho, vahI vyakti anya vyaktiyoM ko AsAnI se pahacAna karA sakatA hai| aisI vibhUti yAnI svayaM jJAnI' hI! jJAnI puruSa, ki jise isa saMsAra meM kucha bhI jAnane ko, ki kucha bhI karane ko bAkI nahIM rahA ho vaha ! aise jJAnI puruSa parama pUjya dAdAzrI, isa kAla meM hamAre bIca Akara. hamArI hI bhASA meM, hama samajha pAyeM aisI sarala bhASA meM, hara kisI kA mUla prazna 'maiM kauna hU~' kA hala sahajatA se batA dete haiN| itanA hI nahIM, para yaha saMsAra kyA hai ? kisa prakAra cala rahA hai ? kartA kauna? bhagavAna kyA hai ? mokSa kyA hai ? jJAnI puruSa kise kahate haiM ? sImaMdhara svAmI kauna haiM ? saMta, guru aura jJAnI puruSa meM kyA bheda hai ? jJAnI ko kisa taraha pahacAneM ? jJAnI kyA kara sakate haiM ? usameM bhI parama pUjya dAdAzrI kA akrama mArga kyA hai ? kramika rupa se to mokSamArga para anaMta janmoM se car3hate hI Aye haiM para 'liphTa' (eliveTara) jaisA bhI mokSamArga meM kucha ho sakatA hai na? akrama mArga se, isa kAla meM, saMsAra meM rahate hue bhI mokSa hai aura mokSa kaise prApta karanA isakI pUrNatayA samajha aura sahI dizA kI prApti parama pUjya dAdAzrI ne karavAI hai| 'maiM kauna hU~' kI pahacAna ke pazcAt kaisI anubhUti rahatI hai, saMsAra vyavahAra nibhAte hue bhI saMpUrNa nirlepa Atmasthiti kI anubhUti meM rahA jA sakatA hai| Adhi-vyAdhi aura upAdhi meM bhI niraMtara svasamAdhi meM raha sakeM, aisA akrama vijJAna kI prApti ke pazcAta hajAroM mahAtmAoM kA anubhava hai ! isa sabhI kI prApti hetu prastuta saMkalana mokSArthiyoM ke lie mokSamArga meM prakAza staMbha banakara dizA darzana kare yahI abhyrthnaa| - DaoN. nIrUbahana amIna ke jaya saccidAnaMda nivedana AtmajJAnI zrI aMbAlAla mUlajIbhAI paTela, jinheM loga 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke nAma se bhI jAnate haiM, unake zrImukha se Atmatattva ke bAre meM jo vANI nikalI, usako rikArDa karake saMkalana tathA saMpAdana karake graMtho meM prakAzita kI gaI hai| 'maiM kauna hU~ ?' pustaka meM AtmA, AtmajJAna tathA jagatakartA ke bAre meM buniyAdI bAteM saMkSipta meM saMkalita kI gaI haiN| sujJa vAcaka ke adhyayana karate hI AtmasAkSAtkAra kI bhUmikA nizcita bana jAtI hai, aisA anekoM kA anubhava hai| 'aMbAlAlabhAI' ko saba'dAdAjI' kahate the| 'dAdAjI' yAne pitAmaha aura 'dAdA bhagavAna' to ve bhItaravAle paramAtmA ko kahate the| zarIra bhagavAna nahIM ho sakatA hai, vaha to vinAzI hai| bhagavAna to avinAzI hai aura use ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' kahate the, jo jIvamAtra ke bhItara hai| prastuta anuvAda meM yaha vizeSa khyAla rakhA gayA hai ki vAcaka ko dAdAjI kI hI vANI sunI jA rahI hai, aisA anubhava ho| unakI hindI ke bAre meM unake hI zabda meM kaheM to "hamArI hindI yAne gujarAtI, hindI aura aMgrejI kA mizcara hai, lekina jaba 'TI' (cAya) banegI, taba acchI bnegii|" jJAnI kI vANI ko hindI bhASA meM yathArtha rUpa se anuvAdita karane kA prayatna kiyA gayA hai kintu dAdAzrI ke AtmajJAna kA sahI Azaya, jyoM kA tyoM to, Apako gujarAtI bhASA meM hI avagata hogaa| jinheM jJAna kI gaharAI meM jAnA ho, jJAna kA sahI marma samajhanA ho, vaha isa hetu gujarAtI bhASA sIkheM, aisI hamArI namra vinatI hai| anuvAda saMbaMdhI kamiyoM ke lie Apa ke kSamAprArthI haiM /

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? to seTha kyA kaheMge ki 'merA nAma to jayaMtIlAla hai aura janarala TreDarsa to merI dukAna kA nAma hai|' arthAta dukAna kA nAma alaga aura seTha usase alaga, mAla alaga, saba alaga alaga hotA hai na ? Apako kyA lagatA hai? prazrakartA : sahI hai| dAdAzrI : para yahA~ to, 'nahIM, maiM hI candUlAla hU~' aisA kheNge| arthAta dukAna kA borDa bhI maiM, aura seTha bhI maiM ! Apa candalAla haiM, vaha to pahacAna kA sAdhana hai| asara huA, to Atmasvarupa nahIM ! (1) 'maiM' kauna hU~? bhinna, nAma aura 'khuda' ! dAdAzrI : kyA nAma hai ApakA ? praznakartA : merA nAma candUlAla hai| dAdAzrI : vAqaI Apa candUlAla haiM ? praznakartA : jI haaN| dAdAzrI : candUlAla to ApakA nAma hai| candUlAla ApakA nAma nahIM hai ? Apa 'khuda' candUlAla haiM ki ApakA nAma candUlAla hai ? praznakartA : vaha to nAma hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, to phira 'Apa' kauna ? yadi 'candUlAla' ApakA nAma hai to 'Apa' kauna haiM ? ApakA 'nAma' aura 'Apa' alaga nahIM ? 'Apa' nAma se alaga haiM to 'Apa'(khada) kauna haiM? yaha bAta Apako samajha meM AtI hai na, ki maiM kyA kahanA cAhatA hU~? 'yaha merA cazmA' kahane para to cazmA aura hama alaga hue na ? aise hI Apa(khuda) nAma se alaga haiM, aisA aba nahIM lagatA ? jaise ki dukAna kA nAma rakheM 'janarala TreDarsa', to vaha koI gunAha nahIM hai| para usake seTha se hama kaheM ki 'ai! janarala TreDarsa, yahA~ aa|' Apa candUlAla bilakula nahIM haiM aisA bhI nhiiN| Apa haiM candUlAla, magara 'bAi rileTiva vyU paoNinTa' (vyAvahArika dRSTi) se yU Ara candUlAla, ija krektt| praznakartA : maiM to AtmA hU~, para nAma candUlAla hai| dAdAzrI : hA~, para abhI 'candUlAla' ko koI gAlI de to Apako asara hogA ki nahIM? praznakartA : asara to hogA hii| dAdAzrI : taba to Apa 'candUlAla' haiM, 'AtmA' nahIM haiN| AtmA hote to Apako asara nahIM hotA, aura asara hotA hai, isalie Apa candUlAla hI haiN| candUlAla ke nAma se koI gAliyAM de to Apa use pakar3a lete haiN| candUlAla kA nAma lekara koI ulTA-sIdhA kahe to Apa dIvAra se kAna lagAkara sunate haiN| hama kaheM ki, 'bhaiyA, dIvAra Apase kyA kaha rahI hai ?' taba kahate haiM, 'nahIM, dIvAra nahIM, bhItara merI bAta cala rahI hai use maiM suna rahA huuN|' kisakI bAta cala rahI hai ? taba kaheM, 'candUlAla kii|' are, para Apa candUlAla nahIM haiN| yadi Apa AtmA haiM to candUlAla kI bAta apane Upara nahIM lete|

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? dAdAzrI : sahaja bhAva se bole to bhI ahaMkAra kyA calA jAtA hai ? 'merA nAma candUlAla hai' aisA sahaja bolane para bhI vaha ahaMkAra hI hai| kyoMki Apa 'jo haiM' yaha jAnate nahIM haiM aura 'jo nahIM haiM' usakA AropaNa karate haiM, vaha saba ahaMkAra hI hai na ! praznakartA : vAstava meM to 'maiM AtmA hI hU~' na ? dAdAzrI : abhI Apa AtmA hue nahIM hai na ? candUlAla hI haiM na? 'maiM candUlAla hU~' yaha Aropita bhAva hai| Apako 'maiM candUlAla hI hU~', aisI bilIfa (mAnyatA) ghara kara gaI hai, yaha rauMga bilIfa hai| (2) bilIfa - rauMga, rAiTa ! kitanI sArI rauMga bilIfa ! 'maiM candUlAla hU~' yaha mAnyatA, yaha bilIfa to ApakI, rAta ko nIMda meM bhI nahIM haTatI hai na! phira loga hamArI zAdI karavA ke hamase kaheMge ki ,'tU to isa strI kA pati hai|' isalie hamane phira svAmitva mAna liyaa| phira 'maiM isakA pati hU~, pati hU~' karate rheN| koI sadA ke lie pati hotA hai kyA? DAivorsa hone ke bAda dUsare dina usakA pati rahegA kyA ? arthAta ye sArI rauMga bilIfa baiTha gaI haiN| 'maiM candUlAla hU~' yaha rauMga bilIfa hai| phira 'isa strI kA pati hU~' yaha dUsarI rauMga biliiph'| 'maiM vaiSNava hU~' yaha tIsarI ga biliiph'| 'maiM vakIla hU~' yaha cauthI gaiMga biliiph'| 'maiM isa lar3ake kA phAdara hU~' yaha pA~cavI rauMga biliiph'| isakA mAmA hU~', yaha chaTThI rauMga biliiph'| 'maiM gorA hU~' yaha sAtavIM rauMga biliiph'| 'maiM paiMtAlIsa sAla kA hU~', yaha AThavIM rauMga biliiph'| 'maiM isakA bhAgI (hissedAra) hU~' yaha bhI rauMga biliiph'| 'maiM inkamaTaiksa peyara hU~' esA Apa kaheM to vaha bhI rauMga biliiph'| aisI kitanI gaiMga bilIfa baiTha gaI hoMgI? ___ maiM' kA sthAna parivartana ! 'maiM candUlAla hU~' yaha ahaMkAra hai| kyoMki jahA~ 'maiM' nahIM, vahA~ 'maiM' kA AropaNa kiyA, usakA nAma ahNkaar| praznakartA : 'maiM candUlAla hU~' kaheM, usameM ahaMkAra kahA~ AyA ? 'maiM aisA hU~, maiM vaisA hU~' aisA kare vaha alaga bAta hai, para sahaja rUpa se kaheM, usameM ahaMkAra kahA~ AyA ? 'Apa candalAla haiM' vaha DAmeTika vastu hai| arthAta 'maiM candUlAla hU~' aisA bolane meM harja nahIM para 'maiM candUlAla hU~' yaha bilIfa nahIM honI caahie| praznakartA : hA~, varnA 'maiM' pada A gyaa| dAdAzrI : 'maiM' 'maiM' kI jagaha para baiThe to ahaMkAra nahIM hai| para 'maiM' mUla jagaha para nahIM hai, Aropita jagaha para hai isalie ahaMkAra / Aropita jagaha se 'maiM' haTa jAye aura mUla jagaha para baiTha jAye to ahaMkAra gayA smjho| arthAta 'maiM' nikAlanA nahIM hai, 'maiM' ko usake ekjaikTa plesa (yathArtha sthAna) para rakhanA hai| _ 'khuda' khuda se hI anajAna ! yaha to anaMta janmoM se, khuda, 'khuda' se gupta (anajAna) rahane kA prayatna hai| khuda, 'khuda' se gupta rahe aura parAyA saba kucha jAne, yaha ajUbA hI hai na! khuda, khuda se kitane samaya taka gupta rahoge? kaba taka rahoge? 'khada kauna hai' isa pahacAna ke lie hI yaha janma hai| manuSya janma isalie hI hai ki 'khuda kauna haiM' usakI khoja kara leN| nahIM to, taba taka bhaTakate rheNge| 'maiM kauna haiM' yaha jAnanA par3egA na? Apa khuda kauna haiM' yaha jAnanA hogA ki nahIM jAnanA hogA? (3) 'I' aura 'My' ko alaga karane kA prayoga ! separeTa, 'I' enDa 'My' ! Apase kahA jAye ki, Separate 'I' and 'My' with Separator, to Apa 'I' aura 'My' ko separeTa kara sakeMge kyA? 'I' enDa 'My' ko

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__ maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? w separeTa karanA cAhie ki nahIM ? jagata meM kabhI na kabhI jAnanA to par3egA na! separeTa 'I' enDa 'My' | jaise dUdha ke lie separeTara hotA hai na, usameM se malAI separeTa (alaga) karate haiM na? aise hI yaha alaga karanA hai| Apake pAsa 'My' jaisI koI cIz2a hai ? 'I' akelA hai ki 'My' sAtha meM hai? prazrakartA : 'My' sAtha meM hogA na ! dAdAzrI : kyA kyA 'My' hai Apake pAsa? praznakartA : merA ghara aura ghara kI sabhI ciijeN| dAdAzrI : sabhI ApakI kahalAyeM ? aura vAipha kisakI kahalAye? praznakartA : vaha bhI merii| dAdAzrI : aura bacce kisake ? praznakartA : ve bhI mere| dAdAzrI : aura yaha ghar3I kisakI ? prazrakartA : vaha bhI merii| dAdAzrI : aura yaha hAtha kisake ? praznakartA : hAtha bhI mere haiN| dAdAzrI : phira 'merA sira, merA zarIra, mere paira, mere kAna, merI A~kheM' aisA kheNge| isa zarIra kI sArI vastuoM ko 'merA' kahate haiM, taba 'merA' kahanevAle 'Apa' kauna haiM ? yaha nahIM socA ? ''My' nema iz2a candUlAla' kaheM aura phira kaheM 'maiM candUlAla hU~', isameM koI virodhAbhAsa nahIM lagatA? praznakartA : lagatA hai| dAdAzrI : Apa candUlAla haiM, para isameM 'I' enDa 'My' do haiN| yaha 'I' enDa 'My' kI do relvelAina alaga hI hotI haiN| pairelala hI rahatI haiM, kabhI ekAkAra hotI hI nahIM haiN| phira bhI Apa ekAkAra mAnate haiM, ise samajhakara isameM se 'My' ko separeTa kara diijie| ApameM jo 'Mv' hai, use eka ora rkhiye| 'My' hArTa, to use eka ora rkheN| isa zarIra meM se aura kyA kyA separeTa karanA hogA ? praznakartA : paira, indriyaaN| dAdAzrI : hA~, sbhii| pA~ca indriyA~, pA~ca karmendriyA~ sbhii| aura phira 'mAi mAinDa' kahate haiM ki 'Ai ema mAinDa' kahate haiM ? prazrakartA : 'mAi mAinDa' kahate haiN| dAdAzrI : merI buddhi kahate haiM na ? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : merA citta kahate haiM na ? praznakartA : haaN| dAdAzrI : aura 'mAi Igoijma' bolate haiM ki 'Ai ema Igoijma' bolate haiM?' praznakartA : 'mAi iigoijm'| dAdAzrI : 'mAi Igoijma' kaheMge to use alaga kara skeNge| para usake Age jo hai, usameM ApakA hissA kyA hai, yaha Apa nahIM jaante| isalie phira pUrNa rUpa se separezana nahIM ho paataa| Apa, apanA kucha hada taka hI jAna paayeNge| Apa sthUla vastu hI jAnate haiM, sUkSma kI pahacAna hI nahIM haiN| sUkSma ko alaga karanA, phira sakSmatara ko alaga karanA, phira sUkSmatama ko alaga karanA to jJAnI puruSa kA hI kAma hai| para eka-eka karake sAre speyarapArTsa bAda karate jAyeM to 'I' aura mAi, donoM alaga ho sakate haiM na ? 'I' aura 'My' donoM alaga karane

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? para Akhira kyA bacegA ? 'My' ko eka ora rakheM to Akhira kyA bacA? praznakartA : II dAdAzrI : vaha 'I' hI Apa haiN| basa, usI 'I' ko rIyalAiz2a karanA praznakartA : to separeTa karake yaha samajhanA hai ki jo bAkI bacA vaha 'maiM' hU~ ? dAdAzrI : hA~, separeTa karane para jo bAkI bacA, vaha Apa 'khuda haiM', 'I' Apa khuda hI haiN| usakI talAza to karanI hogI na ? arthAta yaha AsAna rAstA hai na ? 'I' aura 'My' alaga kareM to? praznakartA : vaise rAstA to AsAna hai, para vo sUkSmatara aura sUkSmatama bhI alaga ho taba na ? vaha binA jJAnI ke nahIM hogA na ? dAdAzrI : hA~, vaha jJAnI puruSa batA deNge| isIlie hama kahate haiM na, Separate 'T' and 'My' with Gnani's separator. usa separeTara ko zAstrakAra kyA kahate haiM ? bhedajJAna kahate haiN| binA bhedajJAna ke Apa kaise alaga kareMge? kyA-kyA cIz2a ApakI hai aura kyA-kyA ApakI nahIM hai, ina donoM kA Apako bhedajJAna nahIM hai| bhedajJAna mAne yaha saba 'merA' hai aura 'maiM' alaga hU~ inse| isalie jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa, unake sAnidhya meM raheM to bhedajJAna prApta ho jAye aura phira hamako ('I' aura mAi) separeTa ho jaayegaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, z2arUrata hogii| para jJAnI puruSa to adhika hote nahIM na! para jaba kabhI hoM, taba hama apanA kAma nikAla leN| jJAnI puruSa kA 'separeTara' le lenA ekAdha ghaNTe ke lie, usakA bhADA-vAr3A (kirAyA) nahIM hotA! usase separeTa kara lenaa| isase 'I' alaga ho jAyegA, varnA nahIM hogA na! 'I' alaga hone para sArA kAma ho jaayegaa| sabhI zAstroM kA sAra itanA hI hai| AtmA honA hai to 'merA'(mAi) saba kucha samarpita kara denA pdd'egaa| jJAnI puruSa ko 'My' sauMpa diyA to akelA 'I' Apake pAsa rhegaa| 'I' vida 'My' usakA nAma jiivaatmaa| 'maiM hU~ aura yaha saba merA hai' vaha jIvAtma dazA aura 'maiM hI hU~ aura merA kucha nahIM' vaha paramAtma dshaa| arthAta 'My' kI vajaha se mokSa nahIM hotA hai| maiM kauna hU~' kA jJAna hone para 'My' chUTa jAtA hai| 'My' chUTa gayA to saba chUTa gyaa| 'My' iz2a rileTIva DipArTamenTa enDa 'I' iz2a riiyl| arthAta 'I' TempararI nahIM hotA, 'T' iz2a prmaanentt| 'My' iz2a ttemprrii| yAne Apako 'I' DhU~Dha nikAlanA hai| (4) saMsAra meM UparI kauna ? jJAnI hI pahacAna karAye 'maiM' kI ! praznakartA : 'maiM kauna hU~' yaha jAnane kI jo bAta hai, vaha isa saMsAra meM rahakara kaise saMbhava ho sakatI hai ? dAdAzrI : taba kahA~ rahakara jAna sakeM use ? saMsAra ke alAvA aura koI jagaha hai jahA~ raha sakeM ? isa jagata meM sabhI saMsArI hI haiM aura sabhI saMsAra meM rahate haiN| yahA~ 'maiM kauna hU~' yaha jAnane ko mile, aisA hai| 'Apa kauna haiM' yaha samajhane kA vijJAna hI hai yahA~ pr| yahA~ AnA, hama Apako pahacAna karA deNge| aura yaha hama Apase jitanA pUchate haiM, vaha hama Apase aisA nahIM kahate ki Apa aisA kreN| Apase ho sake, aisA nahIM hai| arthAta hama 'I' aura 'My' kA bheda kareM to bahuta AsAna hai na yaha ? maiMne yaha tarIkA batAyA, isake anusAra adhyAtma sarala hai ki kaThina hai ? varnA isa kAla ke jIvoM kA to zAstra par3hate par3hate dama nikala jaayegaa| praznakartA : Apa jaisoM kI z2arUrata hogI na, samajhane ke lie to?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? (5) jagata meM kartA kauna ? jagata kartA kI vAstavikatA ! phaikTa vastu nahIM jAnane se hI yaha saba ulajhA huA hai| aba Apako, 'jo jAnA huA hai' vaha jAnanA hai, yA 'jo nahIM jAnA huA hai' vaha jAnanA hai? Apase kyA kahate haiM ki hama Apako saba kara deNge| isalie Apa ciMtA mata krnaa| yaha to pahale samajha leM ki vAstava meM 'hama' kyA haiM aura kyA jAnane yogya hai ? sahI bAta kyA hai ? karekTanesa kyA hai ? duniyA kyA hai? yaha saba kyA hai ? paramAtmA kyA hai ? paramAtmA hai ? paramAtmA hai hI aura vaha Apake pAsa hI hai| bAhara kahA~ khojate haiM ? para koI hameM yaha daravAjA khola de to darzana kara pAyeM na! yaha daravAz2A aise baMda ho gayA hai ki khuda se khula pAye, aisA hai hI nhiiN| vaha to jo khuda pAra hue hoM, aise taraNatAraNa jJAnI puruSa kA hI kAma hai| khuda kI hI bhUleM khuda kI UparI ! bhagavAna to ApakA svarUpa hai| ApakA koI UparI hai hI nhiiN| koI bApa bhI UparI nahIM hai| Apako koI kucha karane vAlA hI nhiiN| Apa svataMtra hI haiM, kevala apanI bhUloM ke kAraNa Apa ba~dhe hue haiN| ApakA koI UparI nahIM hai aura Apa meM kisI jIva kA dakhala (hastakSepa) bhI nahIM hai| itane sAre jIva haiM, para kisI jIva kA Apa meM dakhala nahIM hai| aura ye loga jo kucha dakhala karate haiM, to vaha ApakI bhUla kI vajaha se dakhala karate haiN| Apane jo (pUrva meM) dakhala kI thI, usakA yaha phala hai| yaha maiM khuda dekhakara' batAtA huuN| hama ina do vAkyoM meM gAranTI dete haiM, isase manuSya mukta raha sakatA hai| hama kyA kahate haiM ki, 'ApakA UparI duniyA meM koI nhiiN| Apake UparI Apake blaMDarsa aura ApakI misTeksa haiN| ye do nahIM hoM to Apa paramAtmA hI haiN|' aura 'Apa meM kisI kI jarA bhI dakhala nahIM hai| koI jIva kisI jIva ko kiMcitmAtra dakhala kara sake aisI sthiti meM hI nahIM hai aisA yaha jagata hai|' ye do vAkya saba samAdhAna lA dete haiN| jagata kyA hai ? kisa taraha banA ? banAnevAlA kauna? hameM isa jagata se kyA lenA-denA? hamAre sAtha hamAre saMbaMdhiyoM kA kyA lenAdenA? biz2anesa kisa AdhAra para ? maiM kartA hU~ yA koI aura kartA hai ? yaha saba jAnane kI z2arurata to hai hI na? praznakartA : jI haaN| dAdAzrI : isalie isameM zuru meM Apako kyA jAnanA hai, usakI bAtacIta pahale kreN| jagata kisane banAyA hogA, Apako kyA lagatA hai? kisane banAyA hogA aisA ulajhana bharA jagata ? ApakA kyA mata hai ? praznakartA : Izvara ne hI banAyA hogaa| dAdAzrI : to phira sAre saMsAra ko ciMtA meM kyoM rakhA hai? ciMtA se bAhara kI avasthA hI nahIM hai| prazrakartA : saba loga ciMtA karate hI haiM na ? dAdAzrI : hA~, magara usane yaha saMsAra banAyA to ciMtAvAlA kyoM banAyA ? usako pakar3avA do, sIbIAI vAle ko bhejkr| para bhagavAna gunahagAra hai hI nahIM ! yaha to logoM ne use gunahagAra karAra diyA hai| vAstava meM to, goDa iz2a noTa kriyeTara oNpha disa varlDa eTa oNl| onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa hai| arthAta yaha to sArI kudaratI racanA hai| use gujarAtI meM maiM 'vyavasthita zakti' kahatA huuN| yaha to bahuta sUkSma bAta hai|

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maiM kauna haiM? maiM kauna hU~? use mokSa kahate hI nahIM ! choTA baccA ho vaha bhI kahatA hai ki, 'bhagavAna ne bnaayaa'| bar3e saMta ho ve bhI kahate haiM ki 'bhagavAna ne bnaayaa'| yaha bAta laukika hai, alaukika (rIyala) nahIM hai| bhagavAna yadi kriyeTara hotA to vaha sadA ke lie hamArA UparI ThaharatA aura mokSa jaisI cIja nahIM hotii| para mokSa hai| bhagavAna kriyeTara nahIM hai| mokSa ko samajhane vAle loga bhagavAna ko kriyeTara nahIM maante| 'mokSa' aura 'bhagavAna kriyeTara' ye donoM virodhAbhAsI bAteM haiN| kriyeTara to hamezA kA upakArI huA aura upakArI huA isalie Akhira taka UparI kA UparI hI rhaa| to bhagavAna ko kisane banAyA ? bhagavAna ne banAyA, yadi aisA hama alaukika taura para kaheMge to 'lojika' vAle hameM pUchege ki, 'bhagavAna ko kisane banAyA ?' isalie prazna khar3e hote haiN| loga mujhe kahate haiM, 'hameM lagatA hai ki bhagavAna hI duniyA ke kartA haiN| Apa to inkAra karate haiM, para ApakI bAta mAnane meM nahIM AtI hai| taba maiM pUchatA hU~ ki yadi maiM svIkAra karU~ ki bhagavAna kartA hai, to usa bhagavAna ko kisane banAyA hai ? yaha Apa mujhe btaayeN| aura usa banAne vAle ko kisane banAyA ? koI bhI kartA huA to usakA kartA honA cAhie, yaha 'lojika' hai| para phira usakA enDa(aMta) hI nahIM AyegA, isalie vaha bAta galata hai| na Adi, na hI aMta, jagata kA ! pramANita karane ke lie Apa mere sAtha thor3I bAtacIta kiijie| yadi vaha kriyeTara hai to usane kisa sAla meM kriyeTa kiyA yaha btaaie| taba ve kahate haiM, 'sAla hameM mAlUma nahIM hai|' maiMne pUchA, 'para usakI biginiMga huI ki nahIM huI?' taba kaheM, 'hA~, biginiMga huii| kriyeTara kahA, mAne biginiMga hogI hI !' jisakI biginiMga hogI, usakA aMta hogaa| para yaha to binA enDa kA jagata hai| biginiMga nahIM huI phira enDa kahA~ se hogA? yaha to anAdi anaMta hai| jisakI biginiMga nahIM huI ho, usakA banAnevAlA nahIM ho sakatA, aisA nahIM lagatA ? bhagavAna kA sahI patA ! taba ina phorina ke sAyaMTisToM ne pUchA ki, 'to bhagavAna nahIM hai, kyA?' taba maiMne kahA, 'bhagavAna nahIM hote to isa jagata meM jo bhAvanAe~ hai, sukha aura duHkha kA jo anubhava hotA hai, usakA koI anubhava hI nahIM hotaa| isalie bhagavAna avazya haiN|' unhoMne mujhase pachA ki, 'bhagavAna kahA~ rahate hai ?' maiMne kahA, 'Apako kahA~ lagate haiM ?' taba ve kaheM, 'uupr'| maiMne pUchA, 've Upara kahA~ rahate haiM ? unakI galI kA naMbara kyA ? kauna sI galI, jAnate haiM Apa ? khata pahu~ce aisA sahI eDresa hai Apake pAsa?' Upara to koI bApa bhI nahIM hai| saba jagaha maiM ghUma aayaa| saba loga kahate the ki Upara hai, Upara u~galI uThAte rhe| isase mere mana meM huA ki sabhI loga batA raheM haiM, isalie kucha honA caahie| isalie maiM Upara saba jagaha talAza kara AyA to Upara to khAlI AkAza hI hai. Upara koI nahIM milaa| Upara to koI rahatA nahIM hai| aba una phorina ke sAyaMTisToM ne mujhase kahA ki, 'bhagavAna kA sahI eDresa batAyeMge ?' maiMne kahA, 'likha liijie| gaoNDa ija ina evarI kriyecara, vhedara 'viz2ibala' aura 'inaviz2ibala', noTa ina kriyeshn|' (bhagavAna, A~khoM se dikhAI denevAle yA nahIM dikhAI denevAle, hara eka jIva meM vidyamAna haiM, para mAnava nirmita kisI cIz2a meM nhiiN|') yAnI kisI ke banAye bagaira banA hai, kisI ne banAyA nahIM ise| kisI ne banAyA nahIM hai, isalie aba kisase pUchege isake bAre meM hama? maiM bhI DhU~DhatA thA ki kauna isakA jimmevAra hai, jisane yaha sArA jhamelA kiyA ! maiMne saba jagaha talAza kiyA, para kahIM nahIM milaa| maiMne 'phorIna' ke sAyanTisToM se kahA ki, 'goDa kriyeTara hai, ise yaha TeparikArDara 'kriyezana' kahalAtA hai| jitanI mainameDa (mAnava

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? nirmita) vastue~ haiM, manuSyoM kI banAI huI vastue~ haiM, unameM bhagavAna nahIM haiN| jo kudaratI racanA hai, usameM bhagavAna hai| manonukUla kA siddhAMta ! kitane sAre saMyoga ikaTThA hone para koI kArya hotA hai, yAnI yaha sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa hai| usameM Igoijma karake. 'maiMne kiyA', kahakara hA~kate rahate haiN| para acchA hone para 'maiMne kiyA' aura bigaDane para 'mere saMyoga abhI ThIka nahIM haiM' aisA hamAre loga kahate haiM na? saMyogoM ko mAnate haiM na, hamAre loga ? prazrakartA : haaN| sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa ! isalie bAtacIta kIjie, jo kucha bhI bAtacIta karanI ho vaha saba kiijie| aisI bAtacIta kIjie ki jisase Apako saba khulAsA ho jaaye| praznakartA : yaha 'sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa' samajha meM nahIM aayaa| dAdAzrI: yaha saba sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa (vaijJAnika sAMyogika pramANoM) ke AdhAra para hai| saMsAra meM eka bhI paramANu cenja ho sake aisA nahIM hai| abhI Apa bhojana karane baiThe, to Apako mAlUma nahIM ki maiM kyA khAnevAlA hU~ ? banAnevAlA nahIM jAnatA ki kala khAne meM kyA pakAnA hai ? yaha kaise ho jAtA hai, yahI ajUbA hai| Apase kitanA khAyA jAyegA aura kitanA nahIM, vaha saba paramANu mAtra, nizcita hai| Apa Aja mujhase mile na, vaha kisa AdhAra para mila pAye? onlI sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDensa hai| ati ati guhya kAraNa hai| usa kAraNa ko khoja nikaaleN| dAdAzrI : kamAI hotI hai to usakA garvarasa khuda cakhatA hai aura jaba ghATA hotA hai taba kucha bahAnA banAtA hai| hama pache, 'seThajI, aise kyoM ho gaye haiM abhI ?' taba ve kaheMge, 'bhagavAna rUThe haiN|' praznakartA : manonukUla kA siddhAMta ho gyaa| dAdAzrI : hA~, manonukUla, para aisA Aropa usake Upara (bhagavAna para) nahIM lagAnA caahie| vakIla para Aropa lagAyeM yA aura kisI para Aropa lagAyeM vaha to ThIka hai, para bhagavAna para Aropa lagA sakate haiM kyA ? vakIla to dAvA dAyara karake hisAba mA~ge para isakA dAvA kauna dAyara karegA? isakA phala to agale janma meM (saMsAra kI) bhayaMkara ber3I mile| bhagavAna ke Upara Aropa lagA sakate haiM kyA ? praznakartA : nahIM lagA skte| dAdAzrI : yA phira kahegA, 'sTArsa phevarebala (graha anukUla) nahIM haiN|' yA phira 'hissedAra muA Ter3hA hai' aisA khe| nahIM to 'lar3ake kI bahU manahUsa hai' aisA kheN| para apane sira nahIM Ane detA! apane sira kabhI gunahagArI nahIM letaa| isake bAre meM merI eka phorinavAle se bAtacIta huI thii| usane pUchA ki 'Apake inDiyana loga gunAha apane sira kyoM nahIM Ane dete ?' maiMne kahA, 'yahI inDiyana paz2ala hai| inDiyA kA sabase bar3A paz2ala (samasyA) ho to, yahI hai|' praznakartA : para vaha khojeM kisa taraha ? dAdAzrI : jaise abhI Apa yahA~ Aye, usameM Apake basa meM kucha hai nhiiN| vaha to ApakI mAnyatA hai, Igoiz2ama karate ho ki. 'maiM AyA aura gyaa|' yaha jo Apa kahate haiM, 'maiM AyA' aura maiM kahU~ ki, 'kala kyoM nahIM Aye the ?' taba 'aise' paira dikhAye, isase kyA samajhA jAye? praznakartA : paira du:khate the| dAdAzrI : hA~, paira duHkhate the| paira kA bahAnA kare to nahIM samajha jAyeM ki AnevAle Apa, ki paira AnevAle ? prazrakartA : para maiM hI AyA kahalAye na ?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? dAdAzrI : Apa hI Aye haiM na, nahIM ? yadi paira dukhate hoM taba bhI Apa AyeMge? praznakartA : merI khuda kI icchA thI Ane kI, isalie AyA huuN| dAdAzrI : hA~, icchA thI ApakI, isalie aaye| para yaha paira Adi saba ThIka the tabhI A pAye na ? ThIka nahIM hote to ? praznakartA : taba to nahIM A pAtA, ThIka bAta hai| dAdAzrI : yAnI Apa akele A pAte haiM ? jaise eka AdamI ratha meM baiThakara yahA~ para AyA aura kahe, 'maiM AyA, maiM aayaa|' taba hama pUche, 'yaha Apake paira ko to pairelIsisa haA hai, to Apa Aye kaise ?' taba vaha kahe, 'ratha meM aayaa| para maiM hI AyA, maiM hI aayaa|' 'are! magara ratha AyA ki Apa Aye?' taba vaha kaheM, 'ratha aayaa|' phira maiM kahU~ ki, 'ratha AyA ki baila Aye?' praznakartA : smjhaaiye| dAdAzrI : isa saMsAra meM koI manuSya saMDAsa jAne kI bhI svataMtra sattAvAlA janmA nahIM hai| saMDAsa jAne kI bhI svataMtra sattA nahIM hai kisIkI, phira aura kauna sI sattA hogI? yaha to, jahA~ taka ApakI maraz2I ke anusAra thor3A bahuta hotA hai, to mana meM mAna lete haiM ki mere se hI hotA hai saba kuch| kabhI jaba aTake na, taba patA cle| maiMne phorina riTarna DaoNkTaroM ko yahA~ bar3audA meM bulAyA thA, dasabAraha janoM ko| unase maiMne kahA, 'saMDAsa jAne kI svataMtra zakti ApakI nahIM hai|' isa para unameM khalabalI maca gii| Age kahA ki. vaha to kabhI aTakane para mAlUma hogaa| taba vahA~ para kisI kI helpa lenI pdd'egii| isalie yaha ApakI svataMtra zakti hai hI nhiiN| yaha to bhrAMti se Apane kudarata kI zakti ko khuda kI zakti mAna liyA hai| parasattA ko khuda kI sattA mAnate haiM, usI kA nAma bhraaNti| yaha bAta thor3I bahuta samajha meM AyI Apako? do AnA yA cAra AnA, jitanA bhI samajha meM AyA ? praznakartA : hA~, samajha meM AtA hai| dAdAzrI : utanA samajha meM Aye to bhI hala nikala aaye| ye loga jo bolate haiM na ki, 'maiMne itanA tapa kiyA, aise jApa kiye, anazana kiyA' yaha saba bhrAMti hai| phira bhI jagata to aise kA aisA hI rhegaa| ahaMkAra kiye bagaira nahIM rhegaa| svabhAva hai na ? kartA, naimittika kartA... praznakartA : agara vAstava meM khuda kartA nahIM hai, to phira kartA kauna hai ? aura usakA svarUpa kyA hai ? dAdAzrI : aisA hai, naimittika kartA to khuda hI hai| khuda svataMtra kartA to hai hI nahIM para naimittika kartA hai| yAnI pArliyAmenTrI paddhati se kartA hai| pArliyAmenTrI paddhati mAne ? jaise pArliyAmenTa meM sabakI voTiMga hotI hai aura phira aMta meM khuda kA voTa hotA hai na, usake AdhAra para arthAta bAta kahA~ kI kahA~ hai yaha to! para dekhie ulaTA mAna liyA hai na! sAre saMyoga anukUla hoM, to A sake, varnA nahIM A skte| sira dukhatA ho to, Apa Aye hoM to bhI vApasa cale jAyeMge? hama hI Ane-jAnevAle hoM, to sira dukhane kA bahAnA nahIM banA sakate na? are, taba sira AyA thA ki Apa Aye the? agara koI rAste meM mile aura kahe, 'caliye candUlAla mere sAtha' to bhI Apa vApasa cale jaayeNge| isalie saMyoga anukUla hoM, yahA~ pahu~cane taka koI rokanevAlA nahIM mile tabhI A paayeNge| khuda kI sattA kitanI ? Apane to kabhI khAyA bhI nahIM hai na! yaha to sArA candUlAla khAte haiM aura Apa mana meM mAnate haiM ki maiMne khaayaa| candUlAla khAte haiM aura saMDAsa bhI candUlAla jAte haiN| binA vaz2aha isameM phaMse haiN| yaha ApakI samajha meM AtA hai ?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? khuda kahatA hai ki yaha to mujhe karanA hogaa| usa hisAba se kartA hotA hai, aise yojanA kA sarjana hotA hai| yojanA karanevAlA khuda hI hai| kartApana kevala yojanA meM hI hotA hai| yojanA meM usake dastaqhata haiN| para saMsAra meM loga yaha jAnate nhiiN| vaha vyaSTi kampyUTara, choTA kampyUTara jaisA hai| jaise choTe kampyUTara meM se phIDa kiyA haA nikale aura bar3e kampyUTara meM vaha phIDa ho jAye, isa taraha yaha yojanA sarjana hokara bar3e kampyUTara meM jAtI hai| bar3A kampyUTara vaha samaSTi kampyUTara hai| vaha phira usakA visarjana karatA hai| isalie isa janma kI sArI lAipha visarjana svarUpa meM hai, jisakA sarjana pichale janma meM kiyA huA hotA hai| isalie isa bhava meM janma se lekara mRtyu taka visarjana svarUpa hI hai| khuda ke hAtha meM kucha bhI nahIM hai, parasattA meM hI hai| eka bAra yojanA ho gaI ki saba parasattA meM calA jAtA hai| pariNAma meM parasattA kA hI amala calatA hai| arthAta pariNAma alaga hai| pariNAma parasattA ke adhIna hai| Apako samajha meM AtA hai ? yaha bAta bahuta gahana hai| kartApada se karmabaMdhana ! praznakartA : isa karma ke baMdhana meM se chUTane ke lie kyA kareM ? dAdAzrI: yaha karma jo hai vaha kartA ke adhIna hai| isalie kartA hoM to hI karma hogaa| kartA na hoM to karma nahIM hogaa| kartA kaise ? Aropita bhAva meM jA baiThA isalie kartA huaa| apane mUla svabhAva meM Aye to khada kartA hai hI nhiiN| 'maiMne kiyA aisA kahA isalie kartA huaa| yAnI karma ko AdhAra diyaa| aba khuda kartA na ho to karma gira jAye, nirAdhAra karane para karma gira jaayegaa| yAnI kartApana hai taba taka karma hai| 'chUTe dehAdhyAsa to nahIM kartA tU karma, nahIM bhoktA tU isakA, yahI dharma kA marma' zrImad rAjacandra abhI Apa 'maiM candUlAla hU~' aisA mAna baiThe haiM, isalie saba ekAkAra ho gayA hai| aMdara do vastue~ alaga alaga haiN| Apa alaga aura candUlAla alaga haiN| para yaha Apa nahIM jAnate, taba taka kyA ho ? jJAnI puruSa bheda vijJAna se alaga alaga kara deM, phira jaba 'Apa' ('candUlAla' se) alaga ho jAyeM, taba 'Apako' kucha bhI karane kA nahIM, saba 'candUlAla' kiyA kre|| (6) bhedajJAna kauna karAye ? AtmA-anAtmA kA vaijJAnika vibhAjana ! jaise isa aMgUThI meM sonA aura tA~bA donoM mile hue haiM, use hama gA~va meM le jAkara kisI ko kaheM ki, 'bhaiyA, alaga alaga kara dIjie na!' to kyA koI bhI kara degA ? kauna kara pAyegA ? praznakartA : sunAra hI kara paayegaa| dAdAzrI : jisakA yaha kAma hai, jo isameM eksaparTa hai, vaha sonA aura tA~bA donoM alaga kara degaa| sau kA sau TaMca sonA alaga kara degA, kyoMki vaha donoM ke guNadharma jAnatA hai ki sone ke guNadharma ye haiM aura tA~be ke guNadharma aise haiN| usI prakAra jJAnI puruSa AtmA ke guNadharma ko jAnate haiM aura anAtmA ke guNadharma ko bhI jAnate haiN| jaise aMgUThI meM sonA aura tA~be kA 'mikScara' ho to use alaga kiyA jA sakatA hai| sonA aura tA~bA donoM kampAunDa svarUpa ho jAte to unheM alaga nahIM kiyA jA sktaa| kyoMki isase guNadharma alaga hI prakAra ke ho jaate| isI prakAra jIva ke aMdara cetana aura acetana kA mikScara hai, ve kampAunDa svarUpa nahIM he| isalie phira se apane svabhAva ko prApta kara sakate haiN| kampAunDa huA hotA to patA hI nahIM cltaa| cetana ke guNadharmoM kA bhI patA nahIM calatA aura acetana ke guNadharmoM kA bhI patA nahIM calatA aura tIsarA hI guNadharma utpanna ho jaataa| para aisA nahIM hai| vaha to kevala mikScara huA hai| isalie jJAnI puruSa inako alaga karake de deM to AtmA kI pahacAna ho jaaye|

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? jJAnavidhi kyA hai ? praznakartA : ApakI jJAnavidhi kyA hai ? dAdAzrI : jJAnavidhi to separezana (alaga) karanA hai, pudgala (anAtmA) aura AtmA kA! zuddha cetana aura pudgala donoM kA sepreshn| praznakartA : yaha siddhAMtataH to ThIka hI hai lekina usakI paddhati kyA hai ? dAdAzrI : isameM lene-dene jaisA kucha hotA nahIM hai, kevala yahA~ baiThakara yaha jaisA hai vaisA bolane kI jarUrata hai ('maiM kauna hU~' usakI pahacAna, jJAna karAnA, do ghaNTe kA jJAnaprayoga hotA hai| usameM ar3atAlIsa miniTa AtmA-anAtmA kA bheda karanevAle bhedavijJAna ke vAkya bulavAye jAte haiN| jo sabhI ko bolane hote haiN| usake bAda eka ghaNTe meM pA~ca AjJAe~ udAharaNa dekara vistArapUrvaka samajhAI jAtI hai, ki aba bAkI kA jIvana kaise vyatIta karanA ki jisase naye karma nahIM baMdhe aura purAne karma pUrNatayA khatma ho jAyeM, sAtha hI 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' kA lakSya hamezA rahA kare!) AvazyakatA guru kI ? jJAnI kI ? praznakartA : dAdAjI milane se pahale kisI ko guru mAnA ho to? to unakA kyA kareM? dAdAzrI : unake vahA~ jAnA, aura nahIM jAnA ho to, jAnA Avazyaka bhI nahIM hai| hama jAnA cAheM to jAyeM aura nahIM jAnA ho to nahIM jaayeN| unheM duHkha na ho, isake liye jAnA caahie| hameM vinaya rakhanA caahie| yahA~ para 'AtmajJAna' lete samaya mujhase koI pUche ki, 'aba maiM guru ko chor3a dU~ ?' taba maiM kahU~ ki, 'nahIM chodd'naa| are, usa guru ke pratApa se to yahA~ taka pahu~ca pAyA hai|' guru kI vajaha se manuSya kucha maryAdA meM raha sakatA hai| guru nahIM ho to maryAdA bhI nahIM hogii| aura guru se kahanA cAhie ki 'mujhe jJAnI puruSa mile haiN| unake darzana karane jAtA huuN|' kucha loga to apane guru ko bhI mere pAsa le Ate haiM, kyoMki guru ko bhI mokSa to cAhie na ! saMsAra kA jJAna bhI guru binA nahIM hotA aura mokSa kA jJAna bhI guru binA nahIM hotaa| vyavahAra ke guru 'vyavahAra' ke lie haiM aura jJAnI puruSa 'nizcaya' ke lie haiN| vyavahAra rileTiva hai aura nizcaya rIyala hai| rileTiva ke lie guru cAhie aura rIyala ke lie jJAnI puruSa caahie| (7) mokSa kA svarUpa kyA ? dhyeya kevala yahI honA cAhie ! praznakartA : manuSya kA dhyeya kyA honA cAhie ? dAdAzrI : mokSa meM jAne kA hI! yahI dhyeya honA caahie| Apako bhI mokSa meM hI jAnA hai na? kahA~ taka bhaTakanA? anaMta janmoM se bhaTaka bhaTaka... bhaTakane meM kucha bAkI hI nahIM chor3A hai na! tiryaMca (jAnavara) gati meM, manuSyagati meM, devagati meM, sabhI jagaha bhaTakatA hI rahA hai| kisa lie bhaTakanA huA? kyoMki 'maiM kauna hU~' yahI nahIM jaanaa| khuda kA svarUpa hI nahIM phcaanaa| khuda kA svarUpa pahacAnanA caahie| khuda kauna hai' isakI pahacAna nahIM karanI cAhie? itanA ghUmeM phira bhI nahIM jAnA Apane? kevala paise kamAne ke pIche par3e haiM? mokSa ke lie bhI thor3Abahuta karanA cAhie ki nahIM karanA cAhie ? prazrakartA : karanA caahie| dAdAzrI : arthAta svataMtra hone kI z2arUrata hai na? aise paravaza kaba taka rahanA ? praznakartA : svataMtra hone kI z2arUrata nahIM hai magara svataMtra hone kI samajha kI z2arUrata hai, aisI merI mAnyatA hai| ___ dAdAzrI : hA~, usI samajha kI hI z2arUrata hai| usa samajha ko hama jAna leM to bahuta ho gayA, bhale hI svataMtra nahIM ho paayeN| svataMtra ho pAyeM ki nahIM ho pAyeM vaha usake bAda kI bAta hai, lekina usa samajha kI jarUrata to hai na? pahale samajha prApta ho gaI, to bahuta ho gyaa|

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? 'svabhAva' meM Ane meM mehanata nahIM ! mokSa yAne apane svabhAva meM AnA aura saMsAra yAnI apane vizeSa bhAva meM jaanaa| yAnI AsAna kyA? svabhAva meM rahanA ! yAnI mokSa kaThina nahIM hotaa| saMsAra hamezA hI kaThina rahA hai| mokSa to khicar3I banAne se bhI AsAna hai| khicar3I banAne ke lie to lakar3I lAnI par3e, dAlacAvala lAne par3e, patIlI lAnI par3e, pAnI lAnA par3e, taba jAkara khicar3I bne| jabaki mokSa to khicaDI se bhI AsAna hai para mokSadAtA jJAnI milane caahie| varnA mokSa kabhI nahIM ho sktaa| karor3oM janma lene para bhI nahIM hogaa| anaMta janma ho hI cuke haiM na ? mehanata se mokSaprApti nahIM ! yaha hama kahate haiM na, ki hamAre pAsa Akara mokSa le jAie, taba loga mana meM socate haiM ki 'aisA diyA gayA mokSa kisa kAma kA, apanI mehanata kiye binA ?' to bhaiyA, mehanata karake laanaa| dekhiye, usakI samajha kitanI acchI (!) hai?' bAkI mehanata se kucha bhI milanevAlA nahIM hai| mehanata se kabhI kisI ko mokSa milA nahIM hai| praznakartA : mokSa diyA yA liyA jA sakatA hai kyA ? dAdAzrI : vaha lene-dene kA hotA hI nahIM hai| yaha to naimittika hai| Apa mujhase mile, yaha nimitta huaa| nimitta z2arUrI hai| bAkI, na to koI denevAlA hai aura na hI koI lenevAlA hai| denevAlA kauna kahalAtA hai ? koI apanI vastu detA ho, to use denevAlA kahate haiN| para mokSa to Apake ghara meM hI hai, hameM to kevala Apako dikhAnA hai, rIyalAiz2a karA denA hai| yAnI lene dene kA hotA hI nahIM, hama to kevala nimitta haiN| caahie| taba maiM kahatA hU~ ki, 'bhaiyA, Apako mokSa kI jarUrata nahIM hai lekina sukha to cAhie ki nahIM? ki duHkha pasaMda hai ?' taba kahate haiM, 'nahIM, sukha to cAhatA huuN|' maiMne kahA, 'sukha thor3A-bahuta kama hogA to calegA?' taba vaha kahe, 'nahIM, sukha to pUrA hI caahie|' taba maiMne kahA, 'to hama sukha kI hI bAta kreN| mokSa kI bAta jAne deN|' mokSa kyA cIja bAta kara mAmalosA hai, yaha loga samajhate hI nhiiN| zabda meM boleM itanA hI hai| loga aisA samajhate haiM ki mokSa nAma kI koI jagaha hai aura vahA~ jAne se hameM mokSa kA majA AtA hai ! para aisA nahIM hai yh| mokSa, do sTeja meM ! praznakartA : mokSa kA artha, hama Ama taura para 'janma-maraNa se mukti ', aisA karate haiN| dAdAzrI : hA~, yaha sahI hai| para jo aMtima mukti hai, vaha sekanDarI sTeja hai| para pahale sTeja meM, pahalA mokSa yAnI saMsArI duHkha kA abhAva brte| saMsAra ke duHkha meM bhI duHkha lage nahIM, upAdhi meM bhI samAdhi rahe. vaha pahalA mokss| aura phira yaha deha chUTane para AtyaMtika mokSa hai| para pahalA mokSa yahA~ honA caahie| merA mokSa ho hI gayA hai na! saMsAra meM rahane para bhI saMsAra chue nahIM, aisA mokSa ho jAnA caahie| isa akrama vijJAna se aisA ho sakatA hai| jIte jI hI mukti ! prazrakartA : jo mukti yA mokSa hai, vaha jIte jI mukti hai yA marane ke pazcAt kI mukti hai ? dAdAzrI : marane ke pazcAt kI mukti kisa kAma kI ? marane ke bAda mukti hogI, aisA kahakara logoM ko pha~sAte haiN| are, mujhe yahIM kucha dikhA na! svAda to cakhA kucha, kucha pramANa to btaa| vahA~ mokSa hogA, usakA kyA ThikAnA ? aisA udhAriyA mokSa hameM kyA karanA ? udhAra meM baraqata nahIM hotii| isalie kaiza (naqada) hI acchaa| hamArI yahA~ jIte mokSa yAnI sanAtana sukha ! prazrakartA : mokSa pAkara kyA karanA ? dAdAzrI : kucha loga mujhe milane para kahate haiM ki mujhe mokSa nahIM

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maiM kauna hU~ ? jI mukti honI cAhie, jaise janaka rAjA kI mukti Apane nahIM sunI ? praznakartA sunI hai| (8) akrama mArga kyA hai ? hai ? 23 akrama jJAna se anokhI siddhi ! praznakartA : para isa saMsAra meM rahate hue AtmajJAna aise mila sakatA dAdAzrI : hA~, aisA rAstA hai| saMsAra meM rahakara itanA hI nahIM, para vAipha ke sAtha rahate hue bhI AtmajJAna mila sake, aisA hai| kevala saMsAra meM rahanA hI nahIM, para beTe-beTiyoM ko byAhakara, sabhI kArya karate hue AtmajJAna ho sakatA hai| maiM saMsAra meM rahakara hI Apako yaha karavA detA huuN| saMsAra meM, arthAta sinemA dekhane jAnA Adi Apako sabhI chUTa detA huuN| beTe-beTiyoM ko byAhanA aura acche kapar3e pahanakara byAhanA / phira isase jyAdA aura kyA gAranTI cAhate haiM ? praznakartA : itanI sArI chUTa mile, taba to z2arUra AtmA meM raha sakate haiN| dAdAzrI : sArI chUTa ! yaha apavAda mArga hai| Apako kucha mehanata nahIM karanI hai| Apako AtmA bhI Apake hAthoM meM de deMge, usake bAda AtmA kI ramaNatA meM rahie aura isa liphTa meM baiThe rhie| Apako aura kucha bhI nahIM karanA hai| phira Apako karma hI nahIM bNdheNge| eka hI janma ke karma ba~dheMge, ve bhI merI AjJA ke pAlana ke hI hamArI AjJA meM rahanA isalie jarUrI hai ki liphTa meM baiThate samaya yadi hAtha idhara-udhara kare to muzkila meM par3a jAye na ! praznakartA : yAnI agalA janma hogA jarUra ? dAdAzrI : pichalA janma bhI thA aura abhI agalA janma bhI hai para yaha jJAna aisA hai ki aba eka-do janma hI bAkI rahate haiN| pahale ajJAna maiM kauna hU~ ? se mukti ho jAtI hai| phira eka-do janma meM aMtima mukti mila jAyegI / eka janma to zeSa rahe, yaha kAla aisA hai| 24 Apa eka dina mere pAsa aanaa| hama eka dina taya kareMge taba Apako AnA hai| usa dina sabhI kI rassI pIche se kATa dete haiM (svarUpa ke ajJAna rUpI rassI kA baMdhana dUra karate hai)| roz2a roz2a nahIM kaattnaa| roz2a to sabhI bAteM satsaMga kI karate haiM, lekina eka dina taya kareM usa dina bleDa se aise rassI kATa dete haiM (jJAnavidhi se svarUpajJAna prApti karavAte haiM) aura kucha nhiiN| phira turaMta hI Apa samajha jAyeMge ki yaha saba khula gyaa| yaha anubhava hone para turaMta hI kahe ki mukta ho gayA / arthAta mukta huA, aisA bhAna honA caahie| mukta honA, yaha koI gappa nahIM hai| yAnI hama Apako mukta karA dete haiN| jisa dina yaha 'jJAna' dete haiM usa dina kyA hotA hai ? jJAnAgni se usake jo karma haiM, ve bhasmIbhUta ho jAte haiN| do prakAra ke karma bhasmIbhUta ho jAte haiM aura eka prakAra ke karma bAkI rahate haiN| jo karma bhAparUpa haiM, unakA nAza ho jAtA hai| aura jo karma pAnI svarUpa haiM, unakA bhI nAza ho jAtA hai para jo karma barpha svarUpa haiM, unakA nAza nahIM hotA hai| barpha svarUpa jo karma hai, unheM bhoganA hI par3atA hai| kyoMki ve jame hue haiN| jo karma phala dene ke lie taiyAra ho gayA hai, vaha phira chor3atA nahIM / para pAnI aura bhApa svarUpa jo karma haiM, unheM jJAnAgni ur3A detI hai| isalie jJAna pAte hI loga ekadama halke ho jAte haiM, unakI jAgRti ekadama bar3ha jAtI hai| kyoMki jaba taka karma bhasmIbhUta nahIM hote taba taka jAgRti bar3hatI hI nahIM hai manuSya kii| jo barpha svarUpa karma haiM ve to hameM bhogane hI rheN| aura ve bhI sarala rIti se kaise bhogeM, usake saba rAste hamane batAye haiM ki, "bhAI, yaha 'dAdA bhagavAna ke asIma jaya jayakAra ho bolanA', trimaMtra bolanA, nava kalameM bolnaa| " hama jJAna dete haiM, usase karma bhasmIbhUta ho jAte haiM aura usa samaya kaI AvaraNa TUTa jAte haiN| taba bhagavAna kI kRpA hone ke sAtha hI vaha khuda jAgRta ho jAtA hai| vaha jAgRti phira jAtI nahIM, jAgane ke pazcAta vaha

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maiM kauna hU~ ? jAtI nahIM hai| niraMtara jAgRta raha sakate haiN| yAnI niraMtara pratIti rahegI hI / pratIti kaba rahe ? jAgRti ho to pratIti rhe| pahale jAgRti, phira pratIti / phira anubhava, lakSya aura pratIti ye tInoM rheNge| pratIti sadA ke lie rhegii| lakSya to kisI kisI samaya rhegaa| kucha dhaMdhe meM yA kisI kAma meM lage ki phira se lakSya cUka jAyeM aura kAma khatma hone para phira se lakSya meM A jaayeN| aura anubhava to kaba ho, ki jaba kAma se, sabase nivRta hokara ekAMta meM baiThe hoM taba anubhava kA svAda Aye / yadyapi anubhava to bar3hatA hI rahatA hai, kyoMki pahale candUlAla kyA the aura Aja candUlAla kyA haiM, vaha samajha meM AtA hai| to yaha parivartana kaise ? Atma-anubhava se pahale dehAdhyAsa kA anubhava thA aura aba yaha Atma-anubhava hai| praznakartA : AtmA kA anubhava ho jAne para kyA hotA hai ? dAdAzrI : AtmA kA anubhava ho gayA, yAnI dehAdhyAsa chUTa gayA / dehAdhyAsa chUTa gayA, yAnI karma baMdhanA ruka gyaa| phira aura kyA cAhie ? AtmA - anAtmA ke bIca bheda - rekhA ! 25 yaha akrama vijJAna hai, isalie itanI jaldI samyaktva hotA hai| varnA kramika mArga meM to, Aja samyaktva ho sake aisA hai hI nhiiN| yaha akrama vijJAna to bahuta ucca koTi kA vijJAna hai / isalie AtmA aura anAtmA ke bIca yAnI ApakI aura parAyI cIz2a aise donoM kA vibhAjana kara detA hai| 'yaha' hissA ApakA aura 'yaha' ApakA nahIM, aura bIca meM lAina oNpha DimArkezana, bheda-rekhA lagA dU~ vahA~ para / phira par3ausI ke kheta kI bhiMDI hama nahIM khA sakate na ? mArga 'krama' aura 'akrama' ! tIrthaMkaroM kA jo jJAna hai vaha kramika jJAna hai| kramika yAnI sIr3hI dara sIr3hI car3hanA / jyoM-jyoM parigraha kama karate jAyeM, tyoM-tyoM mokSa ke nikaTa pahu~cAye, vaha bhI lambe arase ke bAda, aura yaha akrama vijJAna 26 maiM kauna hU~ ? yAnI kyA ? sIr3hiyA~ nahIM car3hanI, liphTa meM baiTha jAnA aura bArahavIM maMjila para car3ha jAnA, aisA yaha liphTa mArga nikalA hai| jo isa liphTa meM baiTha gaye, unakA kalyANa ho gyaa| maiM to nimitta hU~ / isa liphTa meM jo baiTha gaye, usakA hala nikala AyA na! hala to nikAlanA hI hogA na ? hama mokSa meM jAnevAle hI haiM, usa liphTa meM baiThe hone kA pramANa to honA cAhie ki nahIM honA cAhie ? usakA pramANa yAnI krodha-mAnamAyA-lobha nahIM ho, ArtadhyAna - raudradhyAna nahIM ho| yAnI pUrA kAma ho gayA na ? jo 'mujhe' milA vahI pAtra ! praznakartA yaha mArga itanA AsAna hai, to phira koI adhikAra (pAtratA) jaisA dekhanA hI nahIM ? hara kisI ke lie yaha saMbhava hai ? dAdAzrI : loga mujhe pUchate hai kiM, maiM adhikArI (pAtra) hU~ kyA ? taba maiMne kahA, 'mujhe milA, isalie tU adhikArI / ' yaha milanA, vo sAyanTiphika sarakamasTenziyala eviDansa hai isake piiche| isalie hameM jo koI milA, use adhikArI samajhA jAtA hai| jo nahIM milA vaha adhikArI nahIM hai| vaha kisa AdhAra para milatA hai ? vaha adhikArI hai, isI AdhAra para to mujhase milatA hai| mujhase milane para bhI yadi use prApti nahIM hotI, to phira usakA aMtarAya karma bAdhA rUpa hai| krama meM 'karane kA' aura akrama meM... eka bhAI ne eka bAra prazna kiyA ki krama aura akrama meM pharka kyA hai ? taba maiMne batAyA ki, krama mAne jaisA ki sabhI kahate haiM ki yaha ulaTA (galata ) chor3ie aura sIdhA (sahI) kiijie| sabhI yahI kahA kare bAra-bAra, usakA nAma kramika mArga / krama mAne saba chor3ane ko kaheM, yaha kapaTa- lobha chor3ie aura acchA kiijie| yahI Apane dekhA na Aja taka ? aura yaha akrama mAne, karanA nahIM, karomi karosi karoti nahIM! jeba kATane para akrama meM kaheMge, 'usane kATI nahIM aura merI kaTI nahIM' aura krama meM to aisA kahe ki, 'usane kATI aura merI kttii|'

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? yaha akrama vijJAna laoNTarI ke samAna hai| laoNTarI meM inAma mile, usameM usane koI mehanata kI thI? rupayA usane bhI diyA thA aura auroM ne bhI rupayA diyA thA, para usakA cala niklaa| aise yaha akrama vijJAna, turaMta hI mokSa de detA hai, naqada hI! akrama se AmUla parivartana ! akrama vijJAna to bahuta bar3A ajUbA kahalAtA hai| yahA~ AtmajJAna' lene ke bAda dUsare dina se manuSya meM parivartana ho jAtA hai| yaha sunate hI logoM ko yaha vijJAna svIkAra ho jAtA hai aura yahA~ khiMce cale Ate haiN| akrama mArga, vizvabhara meM ! yaha saMyoga to bahuta ucca koTi kA banA hai| aisA anya kisI jagaha huA nahIM hai| eka hI manuSya, 'dAdAjI' akele hI kArya kara sakeM, dUsarA koI nahIM kara sktaa| praznakartA : bAda meM bhI dAdAjI kI kRpA rahegI na ? Apake bAda kyA hogA? dAdAzrI : yaha mArga to calatA rhegaa| merI icchA hai ki koI bhI taiyAra ho jAye, pIche mArga calAnevAlA cAhie na ? bolatI hai| saca bAta kA amala dera se hotA hai aura jhUThI bAta kA amala jaldI hotA hai| akrama dvArA strI kA bhI mokSa ! loga kahate haiM ki mokSa puruSa kA hI hotA hai, striyoM kA mokSa nhiiN| isa para maiM unase kahatA hU~ ki striyoM kA bhI mokSa hotA hai| kyoM nahIM hogA? taba kahate hai, usakI kapaTa kI aura moha kI graMthi bahuta bar3I hai| puruSa kI choTI gA~Tha hotI hai, to unakI utanI bar3I sUrana (z2amIkaMda) jitanI hotI hai| strI bhI mokSa meM jaayegii| bhale hI sabhI manA karate hoM, para strI mokSa ke lie lAyaka hai| kyoMki vaha AtmA hai aura puruSoM ke sAtha saMparka meM AyI hai, isalie usakA bhI hala nikalegA, para strI prakRti meM moha balavAna hone se jyAdA vakta lgegaa| _kAma nikAla leM ! prazrakartA : caahie| dAdAzrI : merI icchA pUrNa ho jaayegii| praznakartA : 'akrama vijJAna' yadi cAlU rahegA, to vaha nimitta se cAlU rahegA! dAdAzrI : 'akrama vijJAna' cAlU hI rhegaa| akrama vijJAna sAlado sAla aise hI calatA rahA to sArI duniyA meM isakI hI bAteM caleMgI aura paha~ca jAyegA carama taka (phaila jAyegA sabhI jgh)| kyoMki jaise jhUThI bAta sira car3hakara bolatI hai, usI taraha saca bAta bhI sira car3hakara apanA kAma nikAla lenA, jaba z2arUrata ho tb| aisA bhI nahIM hai ki Apa avazya AnA hii| Apako ThIka lage to aanaa| aura saMsAra pasaMda ho, pusAtA ho (a~catA ho), taba taka vaha vyApAra calAte rhnaa| hameM aisA nahIM hai ki Apa aisA hI kiijie| aura hama Apako khata bhI likhane vAle nhiiN| yahA~ para Aye hoM to Apase kaheMge ki, 'bhAI, lAbha utthaaie|' itanA hI kaheMge aapko| hajAroM sAloM se aisA vijJAna prakaTa nahIM huA hai| isalie maiM kahatA hU~ ki pIche jo bhI honA ho so ho, para yaha kAma nikAla lene jaisA hai| (9) 'jJAnI puruSa' kauna ? saMta puruSa : jJAnI puruSa ! praznakartA : ye jo saMta ho gaye sabhI, unameM aura jJAnI meM kitanA aMtara?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? dAdAzrI : saMta kisakA nAma, ki jo barAI chaDavAye aura acchAI sikhaaye| galata karanA chur3avAye aura acchA karanA sikhAye, usakA nAma sNt| praznakartA : arthAta pApakarma se bacAye vaha saMta ? dAdAzrI : hA~, pApakarma se bacAye vaha saMta, para pApa-puNya, donoM se bacAye, usakA nAma jJAnI puruss| saMta puruSa sahI rAha batAye aura jJAnI puruSa mukti dilaaye| saMta to pathika kahalAte haiN| pathika mAne vaha khuda cale aura dUsare pathika se kahe, 'calo, tuma mere saath|' aura jJAnI puruSa to AkhirI sTezana kahalAyeM, vahA~ to apanA kAma hI nikala jaaye| saccA, bilakula saccA saMta kauna ? jo mamatA rahita ho| aura jo dUsare haiM, ve thor3I bahuta mamatAvAle hote haiN| aura saccA jJAnI kauna ? jise ahaMkAra aura mamatA donoM nahIM hote| isalie saMtoM ko jJAnI puruSa nahIM kahA jA sktaa| saMtoM ko AtmA kA bhAna nahIM hotaa| ve saMta bhI jaba kabhI jJAnI puruSa ko mileMge, taba unakA hala niklegaa| saMtoM ko bhI inakI AvazyakatA hai| saba ko yahA~ AnA par3e, chuTakArA hI nahIM na! pratyeka kI icchA yahI hotI hai| ___ jJAnI puruSa duniyA kA ajUbA kahalAte haiN| jJAnI puruSa prakaTa diyA kahalAte haiN| jJAnI puruSa kI pahacAna ! praznakartA : jJAnI puruSa ko kisa taraha pahacAneM ? dAdAzrI : kaise pahacAneMge? jJAnI puruSa to binA kucha kie hI pahacAne jAyeM aise hote haiN| unakI sugaMdha hI, pahacAnI jAye aisI hotI hai| unakA vAtAvaraNa kucha aura hI hotA hai| unakI bAnI bhI kucha aura prakAra kI hotI hai| unake zabdoM se patA cala jaaye| are, unakI A~kheM dekhate hI mAlUma ho jaaye| jJAnI ke pAsa bhArI vizvasanIyatA hotI hai, jabaradasta vizvasanIyatA! aura unakA hara zabda zAstrarUpa hotA hai, yadi samajha meM Aye to| unake vANI-vartana aura vinaya manohara hote haiM, mana kA haraNa karanevAle hote haiN| aise bahuta sAre lakSaNa hote haiN| jJAnI puruSa meM buddhi leza mAtra nahIM hotI! ve abudha hote haiN| buddhi leza mAtra nahIM ho aise loga kitane hoMge? kabhI kabhAra kisI kA janma hotA hai aisA, aura taba logoM kA kalyANa ho jAtA hai| taba lAkhoM manuSya (saMsAra sAgara) taira kara pAra nikala jAte haiN| jJAnI puruSa binA ahaMkAra ke hote haiM, z2arA sA bhI ahaMkAra nahIM hotA hai| vaise to ahaMkAra rahita koI manuSya isa saMsAra meM hotA hI nhiiN| mAtra jJAnI puruSa hI ahaMkAra rahita hote haiN| jJAnI puruSa to hajAroM sAloM meM ekAdha paidA hote haiN| bAkI, saMta, zAstrajJAnI to anekoM hote haiN| hamAre yahA~ zAstra ke jJAnI bahuta sAre haiM para AtmA ke jJAnI nahIM haiN| jo AtmA ke jJAnI hoMge na, ve to parama sukhI hoMge, unako duHkha kiMcitmAtra nahIM hogaa| isalie vahA~ para apanA kalyANa ho jaaye| jo khuda apanA kalyANa karake baiThe hoM, ve hI hamArA kalyANa kara skeN| khuda pAra utare hoM, ve hameM tAra sakate hai| varnA jo khuda DUba rahA ho, vaha kabhI bhI nahIM taaregaa| (10) 'dAdA bhagavAna' kauna ? _ 'maiM' aura 'dAdA bhagavAna', nahIM eka re ! praznakartA : to Apa bhagavAna kisa taraha kahalavAte haiM ? dAdAzrI : maiM khuda bhagavAna nahIM huuN| bhagavAna ko, 'dAdA bhagavAna' ko to maiM bhI namaskAra karatA huuN| maiM khuda tIna sau chappana DigrI para hU~ aura 'dAdA bhagavAna' tIna sau sATha DigrI para haiN| merI cAra DigrI kama hai, isalie maiM 'dAdA bhagavAna' ko namaskAra karatA huuN| praznakartA : vaha kisa lie ?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? dAdAzrI : kyoMki mujhe to cAra DigrI pUrI karanI hai| mujhe pUrI to karanI par3egI na? cAra DigrI kama rahI, nApAsa huA para pAsa hue bagaira chuTakArA hai ? praznakartA : Apako bhagavAna hone kA moha hai kyA ? dAdAzrI : mujhe to bhagavAna honA bahuta bojharUpa lagatA hai| maiM to laghutama puruSa huuN| isa duniyA meM mujha se koI laghu nahIM hai aisA laghatama huuN| arthAta bhagavAna honA mujhe bojha sA lage, ulaTe zarama AtI hai| praznakartA : bhagavAna nahIM honA ho to phira yaha cAra DigrI pUrI karane kA puruSArtha kisa lie karanA hai ? dAdAzrI : vaha to mokSa meM jAne ke lie| mujhe bhagavAna hokara kyA karanA hai ? bhagavAna to, bhagavat guNa dhAraNa karate hoM, ve sabhI bhagavAna hote haiN| 'bhagavAna' zabda vizeSaNa hai| koI bhI manuSya usake yogya ho, to loga use bhagavAna kahate hI haiN| yahA~ prakaTa hue, caudaha loka ke nAtha ! praznakartA : 'dAdA bhagavAna' zabda prayoga kisa ke lie kiyA gayA nahIM aayegaa| ApakI samajha meM AyA, 'dAdA bhagavAna' kyA haiM ? yaha dikhAI dete haiM, ve 'dAdA bhagavAna' nahIM haiN| Apa, yaha jo dikhAI dete haiM, unheM 'dAdA bhagavAna' samajhate hoMge, nahIM ? para yaha dikhAI dene vAle to bhAdaraNa ke paTela haiN| maiM 'jJAnI puruSa' hU~ aura 'dAdA bhagavAna' to bhItara baiThe haiM, bhItara prakaTa hue haiM, ve haiN| caudaha loka ke nAtha prakaTa hue haiM, unheM maiMne khuda dekhA hai, khuda anubhava kiyA hai| isalie maiM gAranTI se kahatA hU~ ki ve bhItara prakaTa hue haiN| aura yaha bAta kauna kara rahA hai ? 'TeparikArDara' bAta kara rahA hai| kyoMki 'dAdA bhagavAna' meM bolane kI zakti nahIM hai aura yaha 'paTela' to TeparikArDara ke AdhAra para bolate haiN| kyoMki 'bhagavAna' aura 'paTela' donoM alaga hue, isalie vahA~ para ahaMkAra kara nahIM skte| yaha TeparikArDara bolatA hai, usakA maiM jJAtA-draSTA rahatA huuN| ApakA bhI TeparikArDara bolatA hai, para Apake mana meM 'maiM bolA' aisA garvarasa (ahaMkAra) Apako utpanna hotA hai| bAkI, hameM bhI dAdA bhagavAna ko namaskAra karane par3ate haiN| hamArA dAdA bhagavAna ke sAtha judApana (bhinnatA) kA vyavahAra hI hai| vyavahAra hI judApana kA hai| para loga aisA samajhate haiM ki ye khuda hI dAdA bhagavAna haiN| nahIM, khuda dAdA bhagavAna kaise ho sakate haiM ? ye to paTela haiM, bhAdaraNa ke| (11) sImaMdhara svAmI kauna ? tIrthaMkara bhagavAna zrI sImaMdhara svAmI ! praznakartA : sImaMdhara svAmI kauna haiM, yaha samajhAne kI kRpA kareMge? dAdAzrI : sImaMdhara svAmI vartamAna meM tIrthaMkara sAhiba haiN| ve dUsare kSetra meM haiN| jaise RSabhadeva bhagavAna hue, mahAvIra bhagavAna hue aise hI sImaMdhara svAmI tIrthaMkara haiN| jo Aja bhI mahAvideha kSetra meM vicarate haiN| bAkI, mahAvIra bhagavAna to saba batA kara gaye haiN| para logoM kI samajha Ter3hI hai to kyA ho sakatA hai ? isalie phala prApta nahIM hotA hai na? dAdAzrI : 'dAdA bhagavAna' ke lie| mere lie nahIM, maiM to jJAnI puruSa huuN| praznakartA : kauna se bhagavAna ? dAdAzrI : 'dAdA bhagavAna', jo caudaha loka ke nAtha haiN| vaha Apa meM bhI haiM, para Apa meM prakaTa nahIM hue| Apa meM avyakta rUpa se rahe haiM aura yahA~ vyakta hue haiN| vyakta hue, ve phala deM, aise haiN| eka bAra bhI unakA nAma leM to bhI kAma nikala jAye aisA hai| para pahacAna kara bolane para to kalyANa ho jAye aura sAMsArika cIz2oM kI yadi ar3acana ho to vaha bhI dUra ho jaaye| para unameM lobha mata karanA aura lobha karane gaye to aMta hI

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maiM kauna hU~ ? bhagavAna mahAvIra kaha gaye the ki 'aba caubIsI baMda hotI hai, aba (bharata kSetra meM) tIrthaMkara nahIM honevAle, isalie mahAvideha kSetra meM jo tIrthaMkara haiM, unako bhajanA / vahA~ para vartamAna tIrthaMkara haiM, unakI bhajanA krnaa|' para yaha to abhI logoM ke lakSya meM hI nahIM hai| aura ina caubIsa ko hI tIrthaMkara kahate haiM, saba loga ! khyAla meM to sImaMdhara svAmI hI ! loga mujha se kahate haiM ki Apa sImaMdhara svAmI kI bhajanA kyoM karavAte haiM ? caubIsa tIrthaMkaroM kI kyoM nahIM karavAte ? maiMne kahA, caubIsa tIrthaMkaroM kA to bolate hI haiM para hama rIti ke anusAra bolate haiN| sImaMdhara svAmI kA jyAdA bolate haiN| ve vartamAna tIrthaMkara kahalAte haiM aura yaha 'namo arihaMtANa' unheM hI pahu~catA hai| navakAra maMtra bolate samaya sImaMdhara svAmI khyAla meM rahane cAhie, tabhI ApakA navakAra maMtra zuddha huA khlaaye| 33 RNAnubaMdha, bharata kSetra kA ! praznakartA : sImaMdhara svAmI kA varNana kIjie / dAdAzrI : sImaMdhara svAmI kI Ayu abhI paune do lAkha varSa kI hai| ve bhI RSabhadeva bhagavAna ke jaise haiN| RSabhadeva bhagavAna sAre brahmAMDa ke bhagavAna kahalAte haiN| isI prakAra ye bhI pUre brahmAMDa ke bhagavAna haiN| ve hamAre yahA~ nahIM hai para dUsarI bhUmi meM, mahAvideha kSetra meM haiM ki jahA~ manuSya jA nahIM sktaa| jJAnI ( ko bhagavAna se agara kisI prazna kA uttara pUchanA ho to) apanI zakti vahA~ bhejate haiM, jo pUchakara AtI hai| vahA~ sthUla deha se nahIM jA sakate, para vahA~ janma hone para jA sakate haiN| yadi yahA~ se vahA~ kI bhUmi ke lie lAyaka ho gayA to vahA~ janma bhI hotA hai| hamAre yahA~ bharata kSetra meM tIrthaMkaroM kA janma honA philahAla baMda ho gayA hai, DhAI hajAra sAla se / tIrthaMkara yAnI carama, 'phula mUna' (pUrNa caMdra) / maiM kauna hU~ ? para vahA~ mahAvideha kSetra meM sadA hI tIrthaMkara rahate haiN| sImaMdhara svAmI vahA~ para Aja bhI jIvita haiN| hamAre jaisI hI deha hai, saba kucha hai| 34 (12) 'akrama mArga' khulA hI hai ! pIche jAniyoM kI vaMzAvalI ! hama hamAre pIche jJAniyoM kI vaMzAvalI chor3a jaayeNge| hamAre uttarAdhikArI chor3a jAyeMge aura usake bAda jJAniyoM kI liMka cAlU rhegii| isalie sajIvana mUrti khojnaa| usake bagaira hala nikalanevAlA nahIM hai| maiM to kucha logoM ko apane hAthoM siddhi pradAna karane vAlA huuN| pIche koI cAhie ki nahIM cAhie ? pIche logoM ko mArga to cAhie na ? jise jagata svIkAregA, usI kA calegA ! praznakartA: Apa kahate haiM ki mere pIche cAlIsa-pacAsa haz2Ara ronevAle hoMge magara ziSya eka bhI nahIM hogaa| yAnI Apa kyA kahanA cAhate haiM ? dAdAzrI : merA ziSya koI nahIM hogaa| yaha koI gaddI nahIM hai| gaddI ho to vArisa ho na ! koI riztedAra ke rUpa meM vArisa banane Aye ! yahA~ to jo svIkArya hogA, usakA clegaa| jo sabhI kA ziSya banegA, usakA kAma hogaa| yahA~ to loga jisakA svIkAra kareMge, usakA clegaa| jo laghutama hogA, usako jagata svIkAra karegA / (13) AtmadRSTi hone ke pazcAta..... AtmaprApti ke lakSaNa ! 'jJAna' milane se pahale Apa candUbhAI the aura aba jJAna lene ke bAda zuddhAtmA hue, to anubhava meM kucha pharka lagatA hai ? praznakartA: hA~ jI /

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maiM kauna hU~ ? hai ? 35 rahatA / dAdAzrI : 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' yaha bhAna Apako kitane samaya rahatA praznakartA : ekAMta meM akele baiThe hoM taba / dAdAzrI : haaN| phira kauna sA bhAva rahatA hai ? Apako 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' aisA bhAva hotA hai kabhI ? Apako riyalI 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' aisA bhAva kisI dina huA thA kyA ? praznakartA: jJAna lene ke bAda nahIM huaa| dAdAzrI : taba Apa zuddhAtmA hI haiN| manuSya ko eka hI bhAva raha sakatA hai| yAnI 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' yaha Apako niraMtara rahatA hI hai| praznakartA: para kaI bAra vyavahAra meM zuddhAtmA kA qhayAla nahIM dAdAzrI : to 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' vaha dhyAna rahatA hai ? tIna ghaNTe zuddhAtmA kA dhyAna nahIM rahA aura tIna ghaNTe ke bAda pUcheM, 'Apa candUbhAI hai yA zuddhAtmA haiM ? taba kyA kaheMge ? praznakartA: zuddhAtmA / dAdAzrI : yAnI vaha dhyAna thA hii| eka seTha ho, usane zarAba pI rakhI ho, usa samaya dhyAna sArA calA jAye, para zarAba kA nazA utarane para... ? praznakartA: phira jAgRta ho jaaye| dAdAzrI : aise yaha bhI dUsarA, bAhara kA asara hai| mere pUchane para ki vAstava meM 'candUbhAI' haiM ki 'zuddhAtmA' haiM ? Apa kaheM ki zuddhAtmA / dUsare dina Apa se pUchatA hU~ ki 'Apa vAstava meM kauna haiM ?' taba Apa kaheM ki 'shuddhaatmaa'| pAMca dinoM taka maiM pUchatA rahU~, isake bAda maiM samajha jAU~ ki Apake mokSa kI cAbI mere pAsa hai| 36 AyA apUrva bhAna ! zrImad rAjacaMdra jI kyA kahate haiM ki, 'sadguru ke upadeza se AyA apUrva bhAna, nijapada, nija mAMhI milA, dUra bhayA ajJAna / ' maiM kauna hU~ ? pahale dehAdhyAsa kA hI bhAna thaa| pahale dehAdhyAsa rahita bhAna hameM thA nhiiN| vaha apUrva bhAna, vaha AtmA kA bhAna hameM huaa| jo 'khuda' kA nijapada thA ki 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' aisA bolatA thA, vaha 'maiM' aba nija mAMhI baiTha gyaa| jo nija pada thA, vaha nija meM baiTha gayA aura jo ajJAna thA, 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' yaha ajJAna dUra ho gayA / yaha dehAdhyAsa kahalAye ! jagata dehAdhyAsa se mukta nahIM ho sakatA aura apane svarUpa meM nahIM raha sktaa| Apa svarUpa meM rahe yAnI ahaMkAra gayA, mamatA gyii| 'maiM candUbhAI hU~' yaha dehAdhyAsa kahalAye aura 'maiM zuddhAtmA hU~' yaha lakSya baiThA, taba se kisI taraha kA adhyAsa nahIM rahA / aba kucha rahA nhiiN| phira bhI bhUlacUka hone para thor3I ghuTana mahasUsa hogii| zuddhAtmA pada zuddha hI ! yaha 'jJAna' lene ke bAda pahale jo bhrA~ti thI ki 'maiM karatA hU~', vaha bhAna TUTa gyaa| isalie zuddha hI hU~, yaha bhAna rahane ke lie 'zuddhAtmA' khaa| kisI ke sAtha kucha bhI ho jAye, 'candUbhAI' gAliyA~ de, phira bhI Apa zuddhAtmA haiN| phira 'hameM' candrabhAI se kahanA cAhie ki 'bhaiyA, kisI ko duHkha pahu~ce aisA atikramaNa kyoM karate haiM ? isalie pratikramaNa kro|' kisI ko duHkha pahu~ce aisA kucha kaha diyA ho, vaha 'atikramaNa kiyA' kahalAye / usakA pratikramaNa karanA caahie| pratikramaNa, yAnI ApakI samajha meM Aye, usa prakAra usakI

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? mAfI mA~ganI hai| doSa kiyA yaha merI samajha meM AyA aura aba phira se aisA doSa nahIM karU~gA aisA nizcaya karanA caahie| aisA kiyA vaha galata kiyA, aisA nahIM honA cAhie, phira aisA dobArA nahIM karU~gA, aisI pratijJA krnaa| phira bhI dUsarI bAra ho jAye, vahI doSa ho jAye to phira se pachatAvA krnaa| jitane doSa dikhAI diye, unakA pachatAvA kiyA to utanA kama ho gye| aisA karate karate Akhira AhistA AhistA khatama ho jaayegaa| praznakartA : kisI vyakti ke pratikramaNa kisa taraha karane cAhie ? dAdAzrI : mana-vacana-kAyA, bhAvakarma-dravyakarma-nokarma, (usa vyakti kA) nAma aura usake nAma kI sarva mAyA se, bhinna aise usake zuddhAtmA ko yAda karanA, aura phira jo bhI bhUleM huI haiM unheM yAda karanA (AlocanA), una bhUloM kA mujhe pazcAtApa hotA hai aura usake lie mujhe kSamA karanA (pratikramaNa), phira se aisI bhUleM nahIM hoMgI aisA dRr3ha nizcaya karatA hU~, aisA taya karanA (prtyaakhyaan)| 'hama' khuda 'candUbhAI' ke jJAtA-draSTA raheM aura jAneM ki 'candUbhAI' ne kitane pratikramaNa kiye, kitane sundara kiye aura kitanI bAra kiye| bAra-bAra kauna saceta karatA hai ? prajJA ! jJAna prApti ke binA prajJA kI zuruAta nahIM hotI hai| yA phira samyaktva prApta huA ho to prajJA kI zuruAta hotI hai| samyaktva meM prajJA kI zuruAta kaise hotI hai ? dUja ke candramA jaisI zuruAta hotI hai, jabaki apane yahA~ to pUrNa prajJA utpanna hotI hai| phala (parNa) prajJA yAnI vaha phira mokSa meM le jAne ke lie hI cetAtI hai| bharata rAjA ko to cetAne vAle rakhane par3e the, naukara rakhane par3e the| jo hara paMdraha minaTa para AvAz2a dete ki 'bharata rAjA! ceta, ceta, ceta!!!' tIna bAra AvAz2a lagAte the| dekhiye, Apako to bhItara se hI prajJA cetAtI hai| prajJA niraMtara cetAtI rahe. ki 'ai. aise nhiiN'| sArA dina cetAtI rahe aura yahI hai AtmA kA anubhava, niraMtara, sArA dina hI AtmA kA anubhava! anubhava bhItara hogA hI ! jisa dina jJAna dete haiM, usa rAta kA jo anubhava hai, vaha jAtA nahIM hai| kisa prakAra jAye phira? hamane jisa dina jJAna diyA thA na, usa rAta kA jo anubhava thA vaha sadA ke lie hai| para puna: Apake karma ghera lete haiN| pUrvakarma, jo bhugatane zeSa haiM, ve 'mAMganevAle' ghera lete haiM, usakA maiM kyA karU~? praznakartA : dAdAjI, para aba itanA bhoganA nahIM pdd'taa| dAdAzrI: vaha nahIM lagatA yaha alaga bAta hai. para mA~ganevAle adhika hoM, to use adhika ghera le| pA~ca vAle ko pA~ca, do vAle ko do aura bIsavAle ko biis| maiMne to Apako zuddhAtmA pada meM biThA diyA, para phira mA~ganevAle dUsare dina AyeM taba jarA saphokezana hogaa| prajJA bhItara se cetAye ! yaha vijJAna hai isalie hameM isakA anubhava hotA hai aura bhItara se hI cetaayegaa| vahA~ (kramika meM) to hameM karanA par3e aura yahA~ bhItara se hI cetAtA hai| praznakartA : aba bhItara se cetAvanI milatI hai yaha anubhava huA dAdAzrI : aba hameM yaha mArga mila gayA hai aura zuddhAtmA kI jo bAunDI (sImA-rekhA) hai, usake pahale daravAje meM praveza mila gayA hai, jahA~ se koI nikAla bAhara nahIM kara sktaa| kisI ko vApasa nikAlane kA adhikAra nahIM hai, aisI jagaha Apane praveza pAyA hai| aba rahA kyA bAkI? vaha kramika vijJAna hai aura yaha akrama vijJAna hai| yaha jJAna to vItarAgoM kA hI hai| jJAna meM aMtara nhiiN| hamAre jJAna dene ke pazcAta Apako Atma anubhava ho jAne para kyA kAma bAkI rahatA hai ? jJAnI puruSa kI

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? 'AjJA' kA paaln| 'AjJA' hI dharma aura 'AjJA' hI tp| aura hamArI AjJA saMsAra (vyavahAra) meM jarA sI bhI bAdhaka nahIM hotI hai| saMsAra meM rahate hue bhI saMsAra kA asara nahIM ho, aisA yaha akrama vijJAna hai| bAkI yadi eka bhava vAlA (ekAvatArI) honA ho to hamAre kahe anusAra AjJA meM clie| to yaha vijJAna ekAvatArI hai| yaha vijJAna hai phira bhI yahA~ se (bharata kSetra se) sIdhe mokSa meM jA pAyeM aisA (saMbhava) nahIM hai| mokSamArga meM AjJA hI dharma.... jise mokSa meM jAnA ho, use kriyAoM kI jarUrata nahIM hai| jise devagati meM jAnA ho, bhautika sukhoM kI kAmanA ho, use kriyAoM kI jarUrata hai| mokSa meM jAnA ho, use to jJAna aura jJAnI kI AjJA, ina do kI hI jarUrata hai| mokSa mArga meM tapa-tyAga kucha bhI karanA hotA nahIM hai| kevala jJAnI puruSa mile to jJAnI kI AjJA hI dharma aura AjJA hI tapa aura yahI jJAna, darzana, cAritra aura tapa hai, jisakA pratyakSa phala mokSa hai| _ 'jJAnI' ke pAsa rahanA ! jJAnI ke Upara kabhI premabhAva nahIM aayaa| jJAnI para premabhAva Aye to, usI se sArA hala nikala aaye| hareka janma meM bIbI-baccoM ke alAvA aura kucha hotA hI nahIM na! bhagavAna ne kahA ki jJAnI puruSa ke pAsa se samyaktva prApta hone ke pazcAta jJAnI puruSa ke pIche lage rhnaa| praznakartA : kisa artha meM pIche lage rahanA ? dAdAzrI : pIche lage rahanA yAnI yaha jJAna milane ke pazcAt aura koI ArAdhana nahIM hotaa| para, yaha to hama jAnate haiM ki yaha akrama hai| ye loga anaginata 'phAileM' lekara Aye haiN| isalie Apako phAiloM kI khAtira mukta rakhA hai para usakA artha aisA nahIM hai ki kArya pUrA ho gyaa| Aja-kala phAileM bahuta haiM, isalie Apako mere yahA~ rakhU to ApakI 'phAileM' bulAne aayeNgii| isalie chUTa dI hai ki ghara jAkara phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla (nipaTArA) kiijie| nahIM to phira jJAnI ke pAsa hI par3e rahanA caahie| bAkI, hamAre se yadi pUrNa rUpa se lAbha nahIM liyA jAtA, to yaha niraMtara rAta-dina khaTakanA caahie| bhale hI phAileM haiM aura jJAnI puruSa ne kahA hai na, AjJA dI hai na ki phAiloM kA samabhAva se nikAla karanA, vaha AjJA hI dharma hai na? vaha to hamArA dharma hai| para yaha khaTakate rahanA to cAhie hI ki aisI phAileM kama hoM, tAki maiM lAbha uThA paauuN| usako to mahAvideha kSetra sAmane AyegA ! jise zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiTha gayA ho, vaha yahA~ para bharatakSetra meM raha sakatA hI nhiiN| jise AtmA kA lakSya baiTha gayA ho, vaha mahAvideha kSetra meM hI pahu~ca jAye, aisA niyama hai| yahA~ isa duSamakAla meM raha hI nahIM paaye| yaha zuddhAtmA kA lakSya baiThA, vaha mahAvideha kSetra meM eka janma athavA do janma karake, tIrthaMkara ke darzana karake mokSa meM calA jAye, aisA AsAna, sarala mArga hai yaha ! hamArI AjJA meM rhnaa| AjJA hI dharma aura AjJA hI tapa ! samabhAva se nikAla(nipaTArA) karanA hogaa| ve jo AjJAe~ batAyI haiM, unameM jitanA raha pAyeM utanA raheM, pUrNa rUpa se raheM to bhagavAna mahAvIra kI dazA meM raha sakate haiN| Apa 'rIyala' aura 'rileTiva' dekhate jAyeM, taba ApakA citta dUsarI jagaha nahIM bhaTakegA, para usa samaya mana meM se kucha nikale to Apa ulajha jAte haiN| (14) pA~ca AjJA kI mahattA ! 'jJAna' ke pazcAt kauna sI sAdhanA ? praznakartA : isa jJAna ke pazcAt aba kisa prakAra kI sAdhanA karanI cAhie?

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maiM kauna hU~? maiM kauna hU~? dAdAzrI: sAdhanA to, yaha pA~ca AjJA kA pAlana karate haiM na, vahI ! aba aura koI sAdhanA nahIM hotii| dUsarI sAdhanA baMdhanakartA hai| yaha pA~ca AjJAe~ chur3AnevAlI haiN| samAdhi baratAyeM, aisI AjJAe~ ! praznakartA : ye jo pA~ca AjJAe~ haiM, isake alAvA aura kucha hai ? dAdAzrI : pA~ca AjJA Apake lie eka bAr3a haiM, tAki ApakA mAla bhItara koI curA na le| yaha bAr3a rakhane se Apake bhItara, hamane jo diyA hai vaha ekjaikTa, vahIM kA vahIM rahegA, aura bAr3a kamajora huI to koI aMdara ghusakara bigAr3a degaa| taba phira mujhe ripeyara karane AnA pdd'egaa| isalie ina pA~ca AjJAoM meM raheM taba taka niraMtara samAdhi kI hama gAranTI dete haiN| maiM pA~ca vAkya Apako proTekzana ke lie detA huuN| yaha jJAna to maiMne Apako diyA aura 'bhedajJAna' se 'alaga' bhI kiyaa| para aba vaha 'alaga' hI rahe, isalie proTekzana detA hU~ ki jisase yaha kAla jo kaliyuga hai, isa kaliyuga vAle kahIM use lUTa na leN| 'bodhabIja' ugane para pAnI Adi saba chir3akanA hogA na ? bAr3a karanI hogI ki nahIM karanI hogI? pAlana karanA hI hai| savere se hI nizcaya karanA ki 'pA~ca AjJA meM hI rahanA hai, pAlana karanA hI hai|' nizcaya kiyA, taba se hamArI AjJA meM A gayA, mujhe itanA hI caahie| pAlana nahIM hotA, usake kaoNjeja (kAraNa) mujhe mAlUma haiN| hameM pAlana karanA hai, aisA nizcaya hI karanA hai| apane jJAna se to mokSa honevAlA hI hai| yadi koI AjJA meM rahegA to usakA mokSa hogA, usameM do rAya nahIM hai| phira koI nahIM pAlatA ho, para usane jJAna liyA hai yadi, to vaha uge binA rahanevAlA nahIM hai| isalie loga mujhase kahate haiM, 'jJAna pAye hue kucha loga AjJA kA pAlana nahIM karate haiM, usakA kyA ?' maiMne kahA, 'yaha tujhe dekhane kI jarUrata nahIM hai, yaha mujhe dekhane kI jarUrata hai| jJAna mere pAsa se le gaye haiM n| terA ghATA to nahIM huA na ?' kyoMki pApa bhasmIbhUta hue binA rahate nhiiN| hamAre ina pA~ca vAkyoM meM raheMge to pahu~ca paayeNge| hama niraMtara pA~ca vAkyoM meM hI rahate haiM aura hama jisameM rahate haiM vahI 'dazA' Apako dI hai| AjJA meM rahane para kAma hogaa| khuda kI samajha se lAkha janma sira phor3eMge to bhI kucha honevAlA nahIM hai| para yaha to AjJA bhI khuda kI akala se paaleN| phira, AjJA bhI samajheMge apanI samajha se hI na! isalie vahA~ para bhI thor3A thor3A lIkeja hotA rahatA hai| phira bhI AjJA pAlana ke pIche usakA apanA bhAva to aisA hI hai ki 'AjJA pAlana karanA hI hai| isalie jAgRti caahie| AjJA pAlana karanA bhUla jAyeM to pratikramaNa krnaa| manuSya haiM, bhUla to jaayeNge| para bhUla jAne para pratikramaNa karanA ki 'he dAdAjI, ye do ghaMTe bhUla gayA, ApakI AjJA bhala gyaa| para mujhe to AjJA pAlana karanA hI hai| mujhe kSamA kreN|' to pichalA sArA maaph| sau meM se sau mArka puure| isalie jimmedArI nahIM rhii| AjJA meM A jAyeM to use sArI duniyA nahIM chU sktii| hamArI AjJA kA pAlana karane para Apako kucha sparzegA nhiiN| to AjJA denevAle ko cipakegA? nahIM, kyoMki parahetu ke lie hai, isalie use sparze nahIM aura Diz2olva ho jaaye| dRr3ha nizcaya hI karAye pAlana, AjJA kA ! dAdAjI kI AjJA kA pAlana karanA hai, yahI sabase bar3I cIja hai| hamArI AjJA kA pAlana karane kA nizcaya karanA caahie| Apako yaha nahIM dekhanA hai ki AjJA kA pAlana hotA hai yA nhiiN| AjJA kA pAlana jitanA ho pAye utanA sahI, para hameM nizcaya karanA hai ki AjJA kA pAlana karanA hai| praznakartA : kama-jyAdA pAlana ho, usameM koI harakata nahIM na ? dAdAzrI : 'harakata nahIM', aisA nhiiN| hama nizcaya kareM ki AjJA kA

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maiM kauna hU~? yaha to hai bhagavAna kI AjJA !!! dAdAjI kI AjJA kA pAlana karanA yAnI vaha 'e.ema.paTela' kI AjJA nahIM hai| khuda 'dAdA bhagavAna' kI, jo caudaha loka ke nAtha haiM. unakI AjJA hai| usakI gAranTI detA huuN| yaha to mere mAdhyama se yaha saba bAteM nikalI haiN| isalie Apako usa AjJA kA pAlana karanA hai| 'merI AjJA' nahIM hai, yaha dAdA bhagavAna kI AjJA hai| maiM bhI usa bhagavAna kI AjJA meM rahatA hU~ na ! jaya saccidAnaMda