Book Title: Wisdom Roads
Author(s): Lorrence G Muller
Publisher: Continumm New York

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________________ SWAMI SATCHIDANANDA S. SATCH: You don't even serve. Rather, others make you serve. You don't even feel like serving then; even that desire is not there. You say, I want to serve people; it's a desire, it requires a body. But you are then without any desire. The sun doesn't think: I'm giving light to everybody. The sun is there, that's all. Can you say that the sun gives light? L.M.: No, it is light. S. SATCH: It is light. That is what the liberated state is: I am that I amthat's all. L.M.: What about the need for a sense of humor to cope with life's myriad ups and downs, the adversity, negativity, and suffering in life? S. SATCH: Just have fun, just have fun. You enjoy everything, you think of everything as having fun. Good things, bad things, adversities, it doesn't matter—it's all fun. Even when you go to a movie, you don't always watch nice things. L.M.: No, sometimes we don't. S. SATCH: If it's all nice, nobody will watch that movie. L.M.: We need something more dramatic. S. SATCH: You can't have a movie with only heroes and heroines; you should also have villains. Without a villain, no movie is charming, interesting. So life is like that. We can enjoy both—the ups and the downs. I call it being a surfer. If you want to surf, don't look for a flat sheet of water. L.M.: You need crashing waves. S. SATCH: Big waves—the bigger the wave, the more is your enjoyment. Waves means the ups and downs, that you enjoy the ups and downs in life. That's what fun means. You're supposed to always have fun, fun, and more fun, in life. Nothing but fun. I could even say that you are the product of fun. Jain Education International For Private & Personal Use Only www.jainelibrary.org

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