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even if God were present, they would hurt him and kill him. This is because none of their penance or vows has proved fruitful and that is why they have no reverence for that specific God.
Questioner: Dada, this man is a strong devotee.
Dadashri : For how long do you want to remain a devotee? Life after life you remain a devotee, but what if in one life you make a mistake and despite being amongst other devotees you fall into the company of some bad people? They would drag you down spiritually and that in itself is a trap.
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Ask for bhakti until you meet a Gnani and when you meet a Gnani, then ask for moksha. He will bring about a permanent solution for you. Why do worshippers think about God? They do so for Atmagnan; knowledge of the Self. Knowledge of the Self is nothing but You yourself, but you are not aware of that, are you? Everywhere in the world they keep singing. "You are that, Thou are that," this perspective keeps the bhagat and the Bhagwan i.e. the worshipper and God separate. For once sing. "I am that, I am that!" and you will be blessed. When will it end if you keep singing. "You are that?" Why do people sing. "You are that?" In a state of ignorance one continues to wander. God is separate as 'You'. Nothing can be gained by singing. 'You are that'. Only the state of 'I am that' will work. In the state of 'Thou art that', there will always be a separation between 'You' (God) and 'T' (the worshipper) till the very end. Whereas there is no separation in 'I am that', there is oneness in it. One becomes the parmatma (Supreme Self) himself.
Some sing. "Tat vam Asi (That I am)", but who knows what they mean by "That'! Nothing can be gained by singing, 'That I am' either. What exactly is this "That', that you refer to? Only the vision and experience of Hu hi, Hu hi (I am everywhere)' is of any use.
Worshippers say, "See God in everyone", but that is all psychological. If you have been conditioned to see God in
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everyone, then you will do so. But upon slightest provocation, your anger, pride, deceit and greed will come forth. These worshippers have not attained even a speck of what you, the mahatmas have attained. This is a tremendous Gnan! It is a science. You can see the Self in everyone because you have attained the Self scientifically. The worshippers sing. "You are that" and the Gnan you have attained is, "I am that." In the state of 'You are that', there is a separation between the bhagat (devotee) and Bhagwan (God). What is gained from this state of intellectual separation? Akha Bhagat has said:
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Jo tu jeev to karta Hari, Jo tu Shiva to vastu khari.' "If you are jiva then God is the doer, if you are Shiva (Self) then that is the true thing."
You become the Supreme Self (Parmatma) if the separation between jiva (embodied self) and Shiva (The Self) is destroyed. Your work can be done if your intellect stops creating divisions (when you acquire abheda buddhi).
Vyavahar of the Gnani versus a devotee
'Thou art, Thou art ((Tu hi Tu hi), ' leads to worldly life. All the renowned worshippers (bhaktas) were under the influence of the ego, 'I am Chandulal.' This led to constant easiness-uneasiness (akudata-vyakudata) within. Bliss exists only in the realm of the Self. This bliss (nirakudata) is beyond the relative state which fluctuates between easiness and uneasiness. When the worshippers become engrossed in their devotional activities (bhakti) they become filled with glee and cheer, and they become depressed and withdrawn when misery befalls them. Such worshippers are considered crazy and whimsical in the eyes of the world; there is no telling when they will become crazy! When Narsinh Mehta's wife was dying, he was invited to sing devotional songs by a gathering of Krishna devotees and so he went readily. They sang bhajans and did kirtan (chanting) bhakti whole night. In the morning a man came and informed
