Book Title: Aptavani 02
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Mahavideh Foundation

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________________ Aptavani-2 481 482 Aptavani-2 to do bhakti. Dadashri : Do you know the God whose bhakti you are doing at the moment? Where does he live? How tall is he? How many children does he have? Do you know if he performed the religious rite on the twelfth day after his mother's death? Questioner: Without bhakti how am I going to realize God? Gnani has no ownership of any element of the non-Self (potapanu). If there is even a hint of ownership, then he is not a Gnani. One day Kabir was walking around in Delhi. He saw that the street was very crowded and so he began to sing: 'Manas khojat mei fira, manas ka bada sukal jako dekhi dil tharey, tako pario dukal.' 'In search of a man, I have roamed a lot, and seen them in plenty of the kind that would steal my heart, there is a famine.' There are countless human beings but none that will steal and still the heart. Can you ever find such a human being just by scanning the surface of this ocean of life? Such a man is to be found five feet deep in the ocean; they are not clearly visible, so how will you find him easily? Kabir was a true devotee and very rarely will you find such a devotee. There was once a very generous King. One day he came out of his palace and saw many people out there. He asked his minister, "Why are these people here?" The minister said, "They are hungry. They have come here to ask for food." The King responded, "Then feed them everyday." Slowly the word got around and masses of people began to come for food. The minister got concerned, "We are trapped now. How can we afford to feed thousands of people who are coming everyday?" He thought of a plan and asked for the King's approval. Then he announced "Tomorrow the king is going to test everyone's devotion for the King, so make sure that you all come prepared for the test. The next day only two devotees showed up. Who would come for a beating? Only two, who were real devotees, came the next day. Dear lady, do you want moksha or something else? Questioner : Instead of moksha, it would be nice if I get Dadashri : You have been around for countless lives. In which life have you not done bhakti? For countless lives you have done indirect (paroksha) bhakti, without knowing God. You do not achieve anything by doing that. You keep doing pilgrimages. Do you think that God is waiting for you in these places of pilgrimage? The whole world is entangled in this web. All the saints and the likes of them are all entangled and such people wander from street to street, some wander in the jungles and some go to the Himalayas, but God (the manifested Soul) is only with the Gnani. There is nothing but interferences (dakho) in all other places. If you do not realize the Self from the Gnani in this human life form, then there is no alternative because elsewhere there is interference in all other places. Ask for whatever you want; here there are talks for the final destination: the ultimate liberation (moksha). Bhakti and Liberation Questioner : Does a person have to do bhakti in order to be liberated? Dadashri : Bhakti helps one acquire the tools for the path of liberation. Bhakti of the vitarag Lords is only for liberation. If the person who is giving satsang has any kind of need or desire, interacting with him will not give you liberation Such a satsang may help to attain a life in the celestial world. For moksha, one needs the satsang with someone who has no desire

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