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whatever they had to say. If anyone came to them wanting to taunt them or simply talk to them, they would speak very calmly and say, "Yes, go ahead and tell me."
You may find my talks harsh but if you want to go to moksha, I will have to be very harsh and give you a heavy dose of talking to. But if you want to live a worldly life and do not want to go to moksha, then I will garland you with flowers. Therefore, you must decide yourself what you want and chose accordingly.
It is your own obstinacy and nothing else that hinders your moksha. Vishays, indulgence in sensual pleasures do not hinder you. Therefore, wise up and get smart. There is no need to become a sadhu, a hermit and denounce the worldly life. You simply need to shape up. The path to moksha is so narrow that you will not be able go through it if you do not walk straight. So there, you will have to be simple and straightforward. You will have to listen to strong words from 'us' if you want to go to moksha. A disease' from countless past lives has filled up from your belly up into your throat. Therefore, I will have to operate and remove it all using special forceps! Therefore, speak up before I start, because it will be impossible to stop the operation once I start. So, what do you want, moksha or worldly opulence? I am ready to give whatever you want.
Questioner: I just want moksha.
Dadashri : Then you will have to understand and absorb my words. Let me tell you what the ascetics who follow the
vitarag path are like. They will remove differences of opinion if there are any. All the sanghpati (head of a company), the sadhus, the sanyasi, Jains of all sects, etc., should all get together and discuss things and think things through. Seat the older sadhu on a comfortable seat and the young ones can sit on the floor. Should you not do at least this much? Everyone has to sit and discuss together. What is the vitarag dharma? If a great sage
cannot answer questions of new young disciples, then he is not a great sage; he is not a sage in fact, he is nothing. No matter what the other person is saying, even if he is lying, hear him out once and then discuss things and think about it. This way at least he will take something with him. Therefore, the Lord has said, do not speak with ego based insistence and obstinacy. Discuss things and think about where you are making a mistake. You are a sadhu of the current cycle of dushamkaal (bad times) so therefore, do not sit alone; have a sanghpati and the sangh (organization of people) with you, because the Lord has said that a sangh is the twenty-fifth Tirthankara. A committee of the company will judge what is right and what is wrong. The sanghpati will tell you something is correct because there is a Self within him. On the other hand, if something is not right he can recognize that too. What harm is there in all of you sitting together?
There is not even a little bit of insistence in the vitarag path. These people have become excessively obstinate and insistent. The sadhus, who cannot sit together, discuss and think about what is right and wrong, are not true sadhus of Lord Mahavir Lord Mahavir's disciple would sit down to discuss and think with someone who has read the forty-five Agams but also with the one who has read only two. Further, no matter how many mistakes a person makes, such a sadhu would not harbor any kashays. A worthy sadhu does not quarrel and sits with others to discuss things in an attempt to seek the truth.
If they ask me, "Patel, would you come and explain to us so that we may learn the truth?" 'We would go to them and tell them precisely what Lord Mahavir is trying to say. 'We' would only do that if they are willing to sit quietly and listen without their self conceited ego of, 'I am Acharya' or 'I am superior.' The true path of Lord Mahavir is where there is no feeling of division. Here even a handful of people cannot live together; they quarrel and fight amongst themselves. We know that you
