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## Karmagrantha Part Four
**Verse 17** considers only the sufficient **Jiva-sthana** (state of being) for **Mano-yoga** (mind-yoga), considering those with present **Mano-yoga** as **Mano-yogi** (practitioners of mind-yoga). This verse considers both insufficient and sufficient **Sanni-Panchendriya** (five senses with limited or full awareness) **Jiva-sthana** for **Mano-yoga**, considering those with present and future **Mano-yoga** as **Mano-yogi**. The explanation of **Jiva-sthana**, **Yoga** (practice) and **Upayoga** (application) in verses 22, 28, and 31 is also applicable here. However, the repetition is meant to highlight the differences in opinion.
**Jiva-sthana** and **Yoga** are considered differently in **Mano-yoga**. For example, in **Mano-yoga**, insufficient **Sanni-Panchendriya** is also considered **Mano-yogi**, but this is not the case in **Soma** (a different type of yoga). Only those who practice **Yoga** concurrently with **Mano-yoga** are considered **Mano-yogi**. This is why **Karma** (action) and **Audarik-Mishra** (mixed with Audarika) **Yoga** are not included in **Mano-yoga**.
**Vachan-yoga** (speech-yoga) considers **Jiva-sthana** as follows: **Dwi-Indriya** (two senses), **Tri-Indriya** (three senses), **Chatur-Indriya** (four senses), and **Asati-Panchendriya** (five senses without full awareness), these four are both sufficient and insufficient. Here, **Vachan-yoga** is considered without **Mano-yoga**, so it is present in these eight **Jiva-sthana**. Verse 17 considers general **Vachan-yoga**. Therefore, in that verse, **Vachan-yoga** only includes **Sanni-Panchendriya** **Jiva-sthana**. Another difference is that verse 17 considers those with present **Vachan-yoga** as **Vachan-yoga** practitioners. However, this verse considers those with both present and future **Vachan-yoga** as **Vachan-yoga** practitioners. This is why five **Jiva-sthana** are considered in **Vachan-yoga** in that verse, and eight here.
**Vachan-yoga** includes the first and second **Guna-sthana** (state of qualities), **Audarik**, **Audarik-Mishra**, **Karma**, and **Asalya-Mushyavan** as four **Yoga**; and **Mati-Agnana** (knowledge and ignorance), **At-Anam** (without name), **Chin** (thought), and **Atra-Bhuvan-arshan** (earthly desires) as four **Upayoga**.