Book Title: Who Am I
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation

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________________ Who Am I? 53 Questioner: Do you have a desire to be Bhagwan? Dadashri: For me it is burdensome to be a Bhagwan. I am a laghutam (one who really considers everything in the world to be higher than oneself - an ego-less state) person. There is no other being lower than myself, and that is why to become God would be a burden to me. Questioner: If you don't want to be a God then why do you make an effort to complete the four degrees? Dadashri: That is for my ultimate Liberation. SEEN THE WORLD BUT NOT FULLY KNOWN THE WORLD This Gnani Purush lacks only four degrees in attaining absolute and total Knowledge (Keval Gnan). I have gone beyond the stage of Self-Realization, but have not yet reached absolute Liberation (Keval Gnan). Questioner: Which four degrees are you talking about? Dadashri: The four degrees relate to my outward and worldly conduct. The other reason is that although I truly understand this world, I have not come to know it fully. Keval Gnan means knowing the world as it is. I have understood it, but not known it completely. Questioner: What is the difference between understanding and knowing? Dadashri: I have fully understood, but I have not fully known. Had I come to know it fully, it would be called Keval Gnan. I have fully understood it so it is called Keval Darshan. THE LORD OF THE FOURTEEN WORLDS HAS MANIFESTED HERE 54 Who Am I? Questioner: Whom do you use the word 'Dada Bhagwan' for? Dadashri: For Dada Bhagwan. Not for me. I am a Gnani Purush. Questioner: Which Bhagwan? Dadashri: Dada Bhagwan is the One who is manifest within me. He is the Lord of the fourteen worlds. He is also within you, but he is not yet manifest. Here within me, he is completely manifest. The manifest can give you spiritual results. Just by saying His name once, you will benefit. When you say His name with the right understanding, you will benefit greatly. Worldly obstructions or difficulties will be removed. You must not be greedy in worldly matters, because greed has no end. Do you understand what Dada Bhagwan is? The one you see with your eyes is not Dada Bhagwan. You might think that the person in front of you is Dada Bhagwan. No. What you see is a Patel from Bhadran (a village in India). 'I' am a Gnani Purush and 'Dada Bhagwan' resides within me and is completely manifest within me. The Lord of the fourteen worlds has been expressed within me. I have personally seen Him and experienced Him. Therefore, I say this with absolute guarantee and assurance, that He is manifest within me. And who is it that is speaking? It is a 'tape recorder' that is speaking. Dada Bhagwan has no speech. It is this Patel who is talking as a medium for the 'tape recorder'. After the separation of Patel and Dada Bhagwan, there is no ego left to say, "I am the speaker". The 'tape-recorder' speaks and 'T' remain its knower and observer. Even in you it is the 'tape recorder' that speaks, but you believe, 'I am speaking', and with this belief a false pride arises within you. As for myself, I

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