Book Title: Sadhus Reminiscences of Raman Maharshi
Author(s): Arunachal Sadhu
Publisher: Ramanasramam Tiruvannamalai

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________________ 80 A Sadhu's Reminiscences of Ramana Maharshi B.: There is no world in your deep sleep. When you wake does the world suddenly appear and tell you, “I exist”? S. J.: No, but other people tell me that there is a world and that it needs spiritual and moral regeneration. So there must actually be a world. All are agreed as to that. B.: You now see the world and the people in it, but can they exist apart from your thoughts? S. J.: (Going off at a tangent) I enter the world with Love. B.: Are you apart from it that you can enter it? S. J.: I am identified with it. I came here to ask questions and to listen to Maharshi's answers. Why do you keep on asking me questions in this way? B.: But Maharshi has answered your questions. The real waking state does not involve differences. S. J.: Have you reached the goal? B.: There is no goal apart from the Self, so how can it be something to be gained afresh? If so it would be impermanent, and what is impermanent will one day disappear. Do you not agree that the goal must be eternal? So it must be within the Self. Seek and find it there. S. J.: I want to know your experience. B.: Whatever experience I have does not affect the question. Each must find the truth for himself. How can someone else find it for you? S. J.: Not at all. Each person's experience has a human value and can be shared by others.

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