Sadhus Reminiscences of Raman Maharshi

Author(s): Arunachal Sadhu
Publisher: Ramanasramam Tiruvannamalai

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A Sadhu's Reminiscences of Ramana Maharshi
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Heaven may come to earth. The lower mind is now incomplete; only in this way can it be perfected.
B.: So you do admit a lower mind which is incomplete and seeks perfection in a Higher Mind. Tell me, in what way is that lower mind different from the Higher Mind?
S. J.: (Ignoring the question but declaiming his own views in which alone he was interested) The Kingdom of Heaven was brought down to earth by Jesus Christ. I consider him the Kingdom personified. I want everybody to realise this. Christ said, “I am hungry with other men's hunger.” Mutual partnership is joy and to be apart from the Kingdom of Heaven is pain. If that Kingdom is universalised each of us will become at one with the rest.
B.: You talk about a difference between people, but what becomes of this difference in deep sleep?
S. J.: (Again ignoring the question) I want to be wide awake.
B.: You believe that you are awake now. On the contrary this is only a dream in a long sleep. Everybody is asleep, this world and all actions are only a dream.
S. J.: This is Vedanta. I have no use for it. These differences are not imaginary. They are positive. (Harping back to his old question) Can Maharshi tell us what he has found? What is this waking state of which he talks?
B.: It is beyond the three states of waking, dream and deep sleep.
S. J.: But I am awake now and I know it. B.: But in the real waking state there are no differences. S. J.: What happens to this world in that case?