________________ 180 life without Conflict life without Conflict 181 conduct should be ideal. How can any conduct or interaction that shows contempt towards your duties, your parents etc., be considered your religion? It is also a terrible mistake to curse anyone, even in your mind. Equally deleterious are actions carried out in secrecy. A person may think to himself, 'No one will know,' or 'Who is going to find out?' You fools! This world is not haphazard by any means; it is not without laws. These are terrible and grave mistakes and these very mistakes are the causes of suffering. Your interactions should be ideal. Kashayas will arise if you become small-minded in your interactions. This life is like a tiny boat. Enjoy as much of it as you can while you are in it but realize that with this boat, you have to get to the other shore. Questioner: Absolutely ideal. Dadashri: What is the point in having ideal interactions when you become old? Your interactions should be ideal from the beginning of your life. If there is only one person with ideal interaction in this world then it is possible for him to change the whole world. Questioner: How can we achieve ideal interaction? Dadashri: By remaining in the state of the Self, which you all mahatmas have received, will bring about ideal interactions automatically. In this state, no interference of any kind can occur. If you experience any interference, then it means you are not abiding by my Agnas. The five agnas I give you are capable of keeping you in the same state as the state of Lord Mahavir. My Aganas are not restrictive or obstructive in your interactions. They help maintain your ideal interaction. This Gnan can make your interactions completely ideal. Who achieves liberation? It is the one with ideal interactions. Dada's Agnas bring forth ideal interaction. It is not ideal interaction if a slightest mistake occurs. Liberation is not some figment of the imagination. It is real and a fact. It is not something someone has invented; it is a fact. I met a man in a very prominent ashram. I asked him what he was doing there. He told me he has been living in the ashram for ten years. I informed him that back home in his village his parents were slowly dying from poverty and old age. He said, "So what can I do about that? If I try to help them, then my work and duty of my religion suffers." How can you call this a duty of religion? Religion is when you take care of your parents, brothers, and others. Your Therefore understand what I am saying. You only have to understand what the Gnani Purush is saying. You do not have to do anything. Having acquired the understanding, the one who conforms becomes a vitarag Jai Sat Chit Anand
