Book Title: Life without Conflict
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation

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________________ 169 life without Conflict life without Conflict 170 that will not hurt or offend even an enemy; it is a sign of approaching liberation. Liberation is not attainable by being a Jain or a Vaishnav. My Agnas (five Cardinal principles of Gnan given after Self-Realization) will ensure ideal interactions. My Agnas will help you maintain equanimity during any physical and or metal suffering and suffering instilled upon you by others. Elsewhere, all interactions are relative, but this is a science. Science means real. In ideal interaction, you must hurt no one. That is all you have to focus on and if your actions do hurt someone, you should immediately do pratikraman. You cannot interact with them in the manner they do with you. I am not referring to the business transactions and the exchange of money; those are all routine worldly dealings, and that is not what I am referring to when I talk about interactions. You should only be concerned with maintaining awareness that you hurt no one and if you do, then do pratikraman immediately. That is considered ideal interactions Mine is an ideal vyavahar; ideal worldly interaction. It will never happen that anyone will have any problems on my account. If some one causes problems for me and I do the same to him, then what is the difference between him and I? I am straightforward, without any interfering intellect. I knowingly allow people to deceive me. The other person thinks, 'Dada is still naive.' Yes it is better to be naive and escape than to be smart and get caught in his prison (karmic consequences). One day my partner told me, 'You are very naive.' I told him, 'Naive is the one who thinks I am naive. "But so many people cheat you,' he argued. So I told him, 'I allow them to cheat me on purpose.' My interactions are completely ideal. If there is even a slightest weakness in a person's interactions, he is not considered completely worthy of liberation. Questioner: Is there any partiality in the Gnani's interactions between two people? Dadashri: There is never any prejudice or bias in the way the Gnani sees things. There is vitaragata in my vision, I see them only as pure Souls. There is difference in the way I interact with them. If a wealthy businessman were to come here with his chauffer and if I made the businessman sit across from me and ask the driver to sit beside me, which would infuriate the businessman. That is not ideal interaction. And if the President were to come, I would get up and welcome him. I cannot dismiss the appropriate interactions needed towards him. I would seat him higher, out of respect. If he is interested in acquiring Gnan from me, then I would seat him down on the floor, otherwise I would ask him to sit on a chair. That which is commonly acceptable to people, is referred to as vyavahar and that which is acceptable for liberation is called nischaya. Therefore you have to accept the vyavahar suitable to people, as vyavahar. If I do not get up to welcome the President, he will feel hurt and I become responsible for that. Questioner: Should we revere those who are bigger than us? Dadashri: Bigger does not necessarily mean older in age. Nevertheless if you interact with the elderly, then you have to respect them and those who have advanced in their knowledge, should be revered too. You must go home on time from satsang. How does it look if you knock onthe door at midnight? People at home

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