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## Verse 271
Both types of desires are found, it is called impotent. Or, the impotent Veda is the result of the rise of the Veda Nokasha. One who does not have the signs of a man, such as beard, mustache, and penis, and the signs of a woman, such as breasts and vagina, is impotent.
## Verse 276
A being devoid of the three Vedas, like the fire of grass, the fire of Kariesh, and the fire of Ishtapaka (the fire of the house), is devoid of the Veda. Such beings enjoy infinite and supreme happiness born from the soul.
## Explanation
A being who has overcome the suffering (inner burning) caused by the three types of Vedas is devoid of the Veda. A being becomes devoid of the Veda through the attainment of the Praupashmik and Kshayik.
With the rise of the desired Veda, the being ascends the Upshama category, overcomes the Mohaniya karma, and then, in the appropriate places, the desired Veda arises, is stimulated, repelled, enhanced, transferred to the other nature, and remains in the Sthitikandika and Anubhagakandika without the Pudgala Skandhas in the being. This is Upshama. At that time, the being's attainment of the absence of the Veda makes it devoid of the Veda.
With the rise of the desired Veda, the being ascends the Kshapaka category, overcomes the Antarkaran, and then, in the appropriate places, the Pudgala Skandhas related to the desired Veda are completely removed from the being's regions, along with the Sthiti and Anubhag. This is Kshaya. The being's state at that time is the Kshayik state. The being becomes devoid of the Veda through this Kshayik attainment.
## Doubt
How can the effect of the Veda and the attainment related to the effect both arise at the same time, and how can there be a relationship of base and dependent or cause and effect between them?
## Solution
It is possible because the relationship of cause and effect is seen in the shadow and sprout that arise at the same time, and the effect of the Kushul is seen at the time of the pot's creation.
## Objection
Even though the absence of the Bhava Veda may occur due to the destruction of the Dravya Karmas of the three Vedas, because it is logical to assume the absence of the effect due to the cause, how can the effect of the Bhava Veda not occur while the Pudgala Dravya Skandhas related to the three Vedas remain in the Upshama category? This is because there is a contradiction in assuming the effect of the cause in the presence of the cause.
## Solution
There is no contradiction because when medicines whose power has been seen are given to a patient suffering from a primary disease, such as indigestion, the power of those medicines is obstructed by the disease of indigestion, and they are found to be unable to perform their function.