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## 164] [Regarding the Sutra on the Approach of Souls, Venerable Sir! What is the time difference? There is no difference for the soul that is without beginning and without end. For the soul that is without beginning but has an end, the difference is from a moment to infinity, as long as it takes for the half-portion of the pudgala to be turned over. The few are the non-sentient, and the sentient are infinitely more. / Similarly, both the connected and the unconnected, like the sentient, should be described in the same way. / Or, there are two types of all souls: those with bodies and those without bodies, like the unperfected and the perfected. The few are those without bodies, and those with bodies are infinitely more. / 232. Or, all souls are of two types: those with senses and those without senses. / Venerable Sir! How long does a soul with senses remain as a soul with senses? Gautama! Souls with senses are of two types: those without beginning and without end, and those without beginning but with an end. / Those without senses are those with a beginning and without an end. / There is no difference between the two. The description of the soul with senses should be like that of the unperfected, and the description of the soul without senses should be like that of the perfected. / The few are the non-sentient, and the sentient are infinitely more. Or, there are two types of all souls: those with a body and those without a body. / Similarly, those with connections and those without connections (those with bodies and those without bodies). / Their accumulation, difference, and fewness should be known like that of the sentient. Or, all souls are of two types: those who are aware and those who are not aware. / Venerable Sir! How long does a soul who is aware remain aware? Gautama! There are three types of souls who are aware: those without beginning and without end, those without beginning but with an end, and those with a beginning and an end. / The one with a beginning and an end remains from a moment to infinity, as long as it takes for the half-portion of the pudgala to be turned over. Venerable Sir! How long does a soul who is not aware remain as a soul who is not aware? Gautama! There are two types of souls who are not aware: those with a beginning and without an end, and those with a beginning and an end. / The one with a beginning and an end remains from a moment to a moment. Venerable Sir! What is the time difference for the soul who is aware? Gautama! There is no difference for the soul without beginning and without end. / There is also no difference for the soul without beginning but with an end. The difference for the soul with a beginning and an end is from a moment to a moment. Venerable Sir! What is the time difference for the soul who is not aware? Gautama! There is no difference for the soul with a beginning and without an end. The difference for the soul with a beginning and an end is from a moment to infinity, as long as it takes for the half-portion of the pudgala to be turned over. / The few are the non-sentient, and the sentient are infinitely more. Similarly, the statement about those with karmic attachments should be made in the same way as that of the sentient. / Or, there are two types of all souls: those with bodies and those without bodies. / Their statement should be made in the same way as that of the perfected and the unperfected, as the few are those without bodies, and those with bodies are infinitely more.