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[Exposition of Bahulya etc.] [105] Gautama! How many devas are born at one time in the Saudharma and Isana realms? Gautama! At the minimum, one, two or three, and at the maximum, countable or innumerable are born. This is up to the Sahasrara realm. In the Pranata and other four realms, and in the Anuttara realms, one, two or three, at the maximum, countable or innumerable are born.
Bhante! In the Saudharma and Isana realms, for how many kalpas do the devas keep emerging and disappearing from time to time? Gautama! They keep emerging and disappearing from time to time for innumerable upaspinis and avasarpinis, but they are never exhausted, up to the Sahasrara realm. The same is the case for the four Pranata realms, the Vaikriyika realms, and the Anuttara realms.
Bhagavan! How large are the vimanas in the Saudharma and Isana realms? Gautama! The vimanas are said to be so large that a deva who can circumambulate the entire Jambudvipa, which is 21 yojanas in length and breadth and more than 3 lakh yojanas in circumference, in six months with exceptional speed, can reach, pass through, and not pass through only some of the vimanas. Similarly, it should be understood for the Vaikriyika and Anuttara realms.
Bhagavan! Of what are the vimanas in the Saudharma and Isana realms made? Gautama! They are made of all kinds of precious substances. Many beings and pudgalas are born, fall away, congregate, and grow in them. The vimanas are eternal from the perspective of the dravyarthikanaya, but non-eternal from the perspective of the paryayarthikanaya. The same should be understood for the Anuttaropapata vimanas.
Bhagavan! From where do the devas in the Saudharma and Isana realms arise? Gautama! Excluding the sammuchchhima beings, the remaining pancendriya tiryañcas and humans become prakrta and are born as devas in Saudharma and Isana. This should be stated here as per the sixth vyutkriantipada of the Prajñapana. (Up to the Sahasrara devaloka, they are born in this manner, and further, only from humans.) The same should be stated for the Anuttaropapata vimanas as per the vyutkriantipada.
Bhagavan! How many devas are born at one time in the Saudharma and Isana realms? Gautama! At the minimum, one, two or three, and at the maximum, countable or innumerable beings are born. This should be stated up to the Sahasrara devaloka. In the Pranata and other four realms, the Nava-graivayas, and the Anuttara vimanas, at the minimum, one, two or three, up to the maximum countable beings are born.
Bhagavan! If one deva is taken away or removed from the Saudharma and Isana realms at each moment, in how much time can they be emptied? Gautama! They are innumerable, so even if one deva is taken away at each moment, the process of removal will continue for innumerable utsarpinis and avasarpinis, yet they cannot be emptied. This statement should be made up to the Sahasrara devaloka. The same for the Pranata and other four realms, the Vaikriyika realms, and the Anuttara vimanas.