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**The Jiva-Jiva-Abhigamsutra, Venerable One!**
Are the celestial bodies, such as the Moon, Sun, planets, constellations, and stars, outside the human realm, *Uvopapanna*, *Kalpopapanna*, *Vimanopapanna*, mobile, or stationary? Are they desirous of motion, and have they attained motion?
**Gautama:** Those deities are not *Uvopapanna*, nor *Kalpopapanna*, but *Vimanopapanna*. They are not mobile, they are stationary. They are not desirous of motion, nor have they attained motion.
They are the size of a baked brick, and their sphere of heat extends for millions of yojanas. They experience divine enjoyments with the loud sounds of musical instruments, dances, songs, and the sweet melodies of instruments, along with thousands of external assemblies of deities who are *Vikurvita*.
They are radiant with auspicious light, their rays are cool and gentle, their heat and light are not intense, and their light is of a peculiar kind.
They are situated in one place, like a peak. The light of these Moons and Suns, etc., is mixed with each other. They illuminate, irradiate, heat, and brighten that region from all sides with their combined rays of light.
**Venerable One!** When the Indra of these deities passes away, what do they do?
**Gautama:** Until four or five *Samanika* deities collectively take his place, they continue to function until another Indra is born there.
**Lord!** For how long is that Indra-position devoid of an Indra?
**Gautama:** The Indra-position can be devoid of an Indra for a minimum of one time period and a maximum of six months.
**The Description of the Pushkarod-Sea**
**180. (a)** The Pushkarod-Sea is named Pushkaravar, and it is situated in a circular enclosure, like a ring, and is surrounded by a wall.
**Venerable One!** What is the circumference of the wheel-wall of the Pushkarod-Sea, and what is its perimeter?
**Gautama:** It has a circumference of countless hundreds of thousands of yojanas, and a perimeter of countless hundreds of thousands of yojanas.
**How many gates does the Pushkarod-Sea have?**
**Gautama:** It has four gates. Similarly, all the cities situated on the Pushkarod-Sea, including the city of Varuna-Varada, are situated on the western side. Here, on the Pushkarod-Sea, there is a gate named Vijaya. The same applies to the other gates.
There is a distance of countless hundreds of thousands of yojanas between the gates.
**The Jivas in the Region**
**Venerable One!** Why is it called Pushkarod-Pushkarod?
**Gautama:** On the eastern side of the Pushkarod-Sea, there are two deities named Siridhara and Siriprabha, who are born from the fine, fragrant, and reddish-brown dust that falls from the sky. They wander from the Mahiddhiya to the Paliovamattiya.
This is why it is called Pushkarod-Pushkarod.