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## The Scattering of the Eager Refutation
"This is established by the authority of the children," having said this, he spoke his own fabricated opinion to the Sadhus. Then, the elders of his own sect said, "O Acharya! This is not a false statement of the Bhagavan, nor is it against the authority. Because, in a single act like making a pot, there are countless intervening causes and effects. Bringing the clay, kneading, shaping, drying, and the time for the pot to be made, all of this is the time for the pot to be made, according to your opinion. But this is not right. Because, other actions are begun and completed at every moment, as the time for the action and the time for the completion of the action are the same. But the pot is begun and completed only at the end of the time. There is much to be said here, it should be understood from the great commentary. And as you have said, it is also not right because of your half-closed vision, because whatever is spread out in a particular space at a particular time, is spread out there at that time. So, the cloth is spread out only at the time of spreading out the Western cloth. The words of the Bhagavan are free from fault because they are relative to specific time."
Having been unable to understand him with these arguments, the elders left him and went to the revered Viraantika. Priyadarshana was also there at that time, in the house of the Shraddha-Dhanka-Kumbha-maker. She was completely devoted to Jamali's opinion. She was also ready to defend the Dhanka. Then, knowing that the Dhanka was based on falsehood, she was told, "We do not know anything about the Neddasham."
On another occasion, while she was engaged in turning and inverting clay pots in the kitchen, he threw a piece of coal on a part of her cloth, and while she was studying in that very place, her robe was burnt. She said, "Shravaka! You have burnt my robe." He said, "But the Bhagavan's doctrine is that what is burning is burnt, so where and by whom has your robe been burnt?"
Ignoring his words, she became enlightened and said, "I am rightly inspired," and having given a false wrong, she went to Jamali and informed him. When he was not enlightened in any way, she left him alone and went to the Bhagavan.
Once, Jamali went to Champa and said to the revered Vira, "O Jin! Your other disciples are living in disguise, having abandoned me. I have become a born knower, a seer, an Arhat, an omniscient."
Then, Gautama said, "Do not call yourself Jamali. Knowledge never slips, because it is only for the knower."
If you are a Kevali, then give me an answer to my question - is this world eternal or non-eternal? Are these beings eternal or non-eternal?
Hearing this, he was unable to answer and remained silent like a controlled serpent. Then, the Vibhu said, "O Jamali! Those disguised disciples are also able to answer these questions.
"This world is eternal in relation to the past, present, and future. But it is non-eternal in relation to the ascending and descending cycles."
"O Jamali! This being is eternal in its essence, always. But it is not eternal in its transformations as a beast, a human, or a hell-being."
Not believing the words of his master, he continued to argue with himself and others, and with false attachment, he continued to defend his position. In the end, he abandoned the path of liberation, and after considering, he did not repent. He became