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## Translation:
**11**
... This is the role. Without wealth, food, clothing, and the tools of a monk's life cannot be obtained. Again, the mention of preaching, devotion, and the affection of the righteous is also found in the *Jñatadharmakathā* in the context of acquiring the *Tīrthankara* name-karma. 'The donation of food, clothing, etc. is also considered to be virtuous.' In support of this statement, we would like to say that the *Āgama* texts mention the giving of donations by the *Tīrthankaras* before taking initiation. 2. We would like to know from the monk whether the donation given by a *Tīrthankara* is without the use of wealth? Is it mindful? It is understandable that a sadhu does not speak mindlessly, but how can it be accepted that he does not make the householder aware of his duties of donation, etc.? We do not understand how the monk has tried to invalidate the *sārṁika-bhakti* etc., merely by mentioning the four *cāritra* qualities like *ātūrapratyākhyāna* and the *prakiṛṇaka* which is primarily about *sādhanā*.
The monk has given the argument for rejecting *gaṇividyā* that it states that initiation, *keśaloca*, and service to the guru should not be performed in certain specific constellations. Further, the monk has also written that *gaṇividyā* prohibits initiation in the *Śravaṇa* constellation, while the monk says, "There is mention in the *Āgamas* that 20 *Tīrthankaras* took initiation in the *Śravaṇa* constellation. How can that which prohibits something be accepted when the *Āgamas* accept that action?" We would like to ask the monk which *Āgama* text among the 32 *Āgamas* accepted by him mentions that the initiation of 20 *Tīrthankaras* took place in the *Śravaṇa* constellation. We do not know on what basis the monk has made this statement. If he were to give *āgamika* evidence, then this matter could be further considered. The discussion of the constellation, etc., of initiation is found only in later texts, not in the *Āgamas*. At least in the 32 *Āgamas*, there is no such statement. Here we would like to say one more thing: although there may not be mention of constellations, etc., for initiation, *keśaloca*, etc., in a theoretical sense, as far as we know, whether it be the *sthānakavāsī*, the *terāpanthī*, or any other tradition,
1. *Jñatadharmakathā Sūtra* 8/14. 2. Ibid., 8/154.