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498] [ A talk between house holder Manduka and nermits
Who ever has tried to resort to it has been destroyed by it. Indeed, it is very condemnable. Never mind Indra has defeated me in glory; now it is my turn to defeat him along with Karma. I will accept asceticism and then will try to defeat both of them. "
The king's mind was thus dyed with vairagya. or renunciation. He went to the Lord with a pure heart and begged him to consecrate him. The Lord consecrated him accordingly and resumed his vihara or religious tour thereafter.
A TALK BETWEEN THE HOUSE HOLDER MANDUKA AND SOME HERMITS.
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A layman named Manduka lived in Raja-Griha. He learnt that Lord Mahavira had come there. He went to see him and touch his feet. Outside the city he saw some hermits, who were talking among themselves in the following manner: It is very difficult to understand what the Lord has said about Dharmastikaya' i. e., the prinicple of motion. etc., for a thing, which is invisible cannot be said to be in existence and thus which has got no form and colour, cannot be easily understood. Nature too, obeys the same rule. The very formation of our body and senses tells us that if we want to know a thing first we must touch it with our fingers, then we must taste or smell it; then we must see or hear it; and after this when we have known it completely we might reflect over it. To reflect before knowing a thing is impossible." While the hermite were talking in this way, Manduka appeared there. They called him near and said," Manduka, Your Guru (Lord Mahavira ) speaks about Panchastikayas. How can one know and believe in it ?
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