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fights, no friction, no clash what so ever. Everything is at a standstill." It is all because of sexual interaction.
Questioner: At first we thought that these conflicts were related to our household work. The conflicts have continued despite our helping in the housework.
Dadashri: All those clashes will continue As long as sexual relations continue, clashes will continue. Sex is the root cause of clash. He who conquers sexual instincts conquers all. Such a man impresses all who see him.
GROSS AND SUBTLE CONFLICTS
Questioner: You have a saying 'Avoid conflicts'. If this statement is followed with devotion, it will take one all the way to liberation. Please explain the progression of avoiding conflicts of the gross level, the subtle level, and the subtler level and the subtlest level.
Dadashri: As one progresses in following the decision to avoid clash, one's intuition grows. No one needs to show him anything. The learning process is spontaneous. These words are such that they will take you to moksha.
The other cardinal sentence is "The fault is of the sufferer", which will also take one to moksha. Each and every word of mine will liberate you. This is my guarantee.
Questioner: You have given examples of gross incidences of conflict like the wall for instance, but what about the conflicts at subtle level, subtler level and the subtlest level? Please explain with examples. What is subtle conflict?
Dadashri : The conflict you may have with your father is all subtle conflict.
Questioner: Are subtle conflicts, mental conflicts? Does verbal conflict also belong to the subtle level?
Dadashri: That belongs to the gross level because it is known by others. That which can not be seen and felt by others is subtle conflict.
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Questioner: How do we abolish subtle conflict?
Dadashri : First solve the gross, then the subtle, then the subtler and finally the subtlest.
Questioner: What do we call as the subtler conflicts?
Dadashri: If you are being beaten by someone, and at that time you are aware that this man is not hurting me, Vyavasthit is the doer, and I am pure Soul. In this process if you even see a slight fault of the other person then it is an example of subtler conflict.
Questioner: Please explain this to me again. I did not
understand.
Dadashri : All these faults you see in others, is subtler
Questioner: So to see others' faults is subtler conflict?
Dadashri : No, once you have established through Gnan, that there is no fault in others yet you continue blaming him that is subtler conflict. This is because he is pure Soul and is separate from all faults.
Questioner: Is that not mental conflict?
Dadashri : All mental conflict pertains to the subtle
conflict.
level.
Questioner: So what is the difference between the
