Ahimsa Times 2008 07 SrNo 97

Author(s): Ahimsa Times
Publisher: Ahimsa Times

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jyotish etc. The odd muni sangha offers opinion on social and political issues. There is one popular Digamber sadhu who is moving around with body guards and assumes the role of Tirthankar in spreading Jainism forgetting his primary role of 28 mulgun. The Sadhu parameshthi minds only His business. All else don't matter to Him. As I said, notwithstanding all these aberrations, one genuine Muni is enough to wipe off all aberrations and bring peace to the earth. Remember, Tirthankar is only one at any time in any kshetra. So why worry about others who are in different states and shades. - Dev
MAYUR JAIN, E-Mail: mayur_j1980@yahoo.co.in, I would like to point few things out of the discussion. I am not a muni nindak, in fact I am the biggest supporter of "Munis"... I am not against nakedness, in fact I always wish a day when I'll be a naked Muni ..... no one can attend "nirvana" without going through the munipana .... I think the whole point has been misinterpreted .... the thing is I just want to bow my head in front of a real muni. I bow my head in front of kund kund, amrut chandra etc... but in the current time I don't see even a single dravya lingi muni ... all the munis of today have become social worker ... they have no "Tatvgyan" .. I have heard so many lectures of different munis... all they do is they start telling stories and thats it... they have no thought process .. they never talk about "ATMA" ... So its upto you if you want to follow them and just listen to stories .. then that's the way to go for you guys ... may be I want something else ....and Ms. Nidhi... for your information ... you cannot twist the path the salvation... it is what it is ... and that what our Munis and Teerthankar have told us ... if you are bending that path then you are starting your own panth within Jainism ... I think the problem now is people have stopped reading Agams and they just want to follow blindly or they want to twist things based on their ease ... I think once people start reading then they will realise what the essence of Jainism is and what are the different aspects of it...I want to say sorry If I have hurt anybodies sentiment, but I wanted to clear myself on this point., Mayur
D.P.JAIN, Ghaziabad, E-Mail: dharamprakashjain@yahoo.com, Mr Sanglikar has hit upon the freedom of following religion. He, himself being follower of Jainism should not get into this. Are we knowledgeable enough to be the judge and that too of Munis who live a very disciplined life? Can they use mobile or phone? Of course they can. Can they possess ? Should not. But he will keep books and stationary to write. Ultimately it depends on what he has abandoned and what not. Possessiveness will vary from one Muni to the other. The least possessiveness is the best. By using computer, mobile or telephone, he does not lose Munitva. These things may be required in enhancing the knowledge of Jain literature. Possessiveness is also relative.
Rajeev Jain, E-Mail: rjainindia@yahoo.com, Mr. Sanglikar, Everyone has a right to lead his life the way a person wants to...the monks are also human beings...they are no completely free of karma, and desires... But they obviously have renounced more than what we have done...we are more attached to the world than they are...so i think we have little right to blame others.... It would be better if we can set an example....
Nishkam Jain, E-Mail: jainnishkam@yahoo.co.in, Mr sanglikar, your opinion is not right, and does not goes with what agam says. If you find some munis not following 28 moolgun yo u are free not to follow them, but don't try to form a general opinion on all muniraaj by saying this.
Sreepalan VC, E-Mail: sreepal5058@yahoo.com - Dear Shri Mahavir Sanglikar, Shri Mayur Jain and Shri Moulik Shah, Let soul secure Samyakthva., "Vathu sahaavo dhammo' - Veer Vaani - means nature of substance is Dharma. Ask thou, thou shall be given; knock thou and thou shall be heard, 'Know thyself and be thyself' - Achaarya Shri Kund Kund Dev.
Before the failures /defects in Digambar Saddhus, as noticed by your valued good selves, it is believed that the truth and purpose of the Nirgranthathva may have to understand and understand it properly and fully as enunciated in the passionless Jina Dharma sacred scriptures. Then, perhaps, the thoughts / perceptions that percolate more often and bursts out in the discussion tables, you would not fail to appreciate that it is purposeless.
Essentially, nirgranthathva - nishparigrah - aparigarah - from the vyavahaaric point of view 'granth' means place viz., house, land, building, etc., wealth viz., money, grains, two legged ad four legged animals etc. All these are external ones. From the nischaya point of view, wrong belief - mithyaathva-, hankering for women, men, etc., /thri vedh' and passions etc., are internal granth.
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