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That is to say, there is something called *dravya-ved* and something called *bhava-ved*. The obstacle of *purusha-ved* is like the fire of straw, the obstacle of *stri-ved* is like the fire of kindling wood, and the obstacle of *nasaka-ved* is like the fire of a kiln for baking bricks. 137. Question: Where does the good conduct of *ved* remain? Answer: The good conduct of *stri-ved* and *napumsaka-ved* remains until the fifth *guna-sthana*, and the good conduct of *purusha-ved* remains until the fourteenth *guna-sthana*. In comparison to *bhava-ved*, the good conduct of all three *veds* remains until the beginning of the ninth *guna-sthana*. Beyond this, the living beings are without *ved*. 138. Question: What is *kṣaya*? How many types are there? Answer: That which destroys the qualities of *samyak-tva* etc. of the soul is called *kṣaya*. *Krodha-mana-maya-lobha* with infinite attachments, *krodha-mana-maya-lobha* with non-rejection covering, *krodha-mana-maya-lobha* with rejection covering, *krodha-mana-maya-lobha* with burning, and *hasya-rati-arati-soka-bhaya-jugupsa-stri-ved-purusha-ved* and *napumsaka-ved*, these are the 25 types of *kṣaya*. In comparison to the places of arising, there are also countless types of *kṣaya* according to the number of worlds. 1. Whatever *bhava-ved* is obtained in any desired *paryaya* of a living being, that same *bhava-ved* remains throughout life, it does not change. *Dhavla* 1/34 (67)