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## 376 / Go. Sa. Jiva Kanda
**Verse 300-301**
**Doubt:** Is there true knowledge and faith in things like doubt-pots, cloths, pillars, etc., for those with false views?
**Solution:** No, because even in their knowledge, there is indecision, meaning lack of conviction. This is not well-known, because there is an absence of certainty like "this is how it is." Alternatively, a deluded being, in relation to the true direction, even while having faith based on the knowledge of the four sense objects - color, smell, taste, and touch - is still considered ignorant, because their faith is influenced by their true knowledge. Similarly, even while having faith in true knowledge in things like pillars, etc., a being is considered ignorant because their faith is influenced by the words of the Jina.
**Verse 45**
**Doubt:** How can the attainment of knowledge-destruction be considered the attainment of knowledge-destruction for a knowledge-possessor?
**Solution:** Because, due to the rise of the country-betraying competitors of the knowledge-obscuring karma, the being attains the state of knowledge-possessor.
**Doubt:** If ignorance arises from the rise of country-betraying competitors, then wouldn't it be appropriate to consider knowledge-possession as a rising state?
**Solution:** No, because there is the influence of the rise of all-betraying competitors.
**Doubt:** Then what is knowledge-destruction in ignorance?
**Solution:** Where, even with the presence of obscuration, a part of the obscured knowledge is found to be rising, that state is called knowledge-destruction. This does not contradict considering ignorance as a knowledge-destruction state. Alternatively, the destruction of knowledge is called destruction. The cessation of that destruction is partial destruction. Thus, the term knowledge-destruction can be considered for partial destruction. The knowledge or ignorance that arises due to such knowledge-destruction is the attainment of knowledge-destruction.
Similarly, knowledge of perception, knowledge of differentiation, knowledge of perception, knowledge of scripture, knowledge of clairvoyance, and knowledge of mind-perception should also be called knowledge-destruction states. The only difference is that in all these knowledges, the attainment of knowledge-destruction occurs due to the rise of country-betraying competitors of their respective obscurations.
**Doubt:** Why are there not seven obscurations for these seven knowledges?
**Solution:** There are not, because apart from the five knowledges, no other knowledge is found. But this does not negate the influence of knowledge of perception, knowledge of scripture, and knowledge of differentiation, because they are included in knowledge of perception, knowledge of scripture, and knowledge of clairvoyance respectively.
**1. Ghawala Pu. 7 p. 86. 2. Grovas Miya LBA. [Bachala Pu. 7 p. 56]. 3. Dhavala Pu. 7 p. 87**