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## 138/Go. Sa. Jivakanda
## Verse 14
**Solution:** This is not a contradiction, because even in the second time, the Jiva-pradeshas remain in the form of a square.
**Question:** How do we know that in the second time, the Jiva-pradeshas become like a sphere, with a diameter?
**Solution:** This is known from the teachings of the Paramguru.
**Question:** Why is the inferior ownership of the Nigoda Jiva, who is a food-taker and exists in the third time, given to the third time?
**Solution:** This is not a fault, because at that time, the Jiva-pradeshas are seen to be situated in a circular, or round, shape, by contracting all four corners of the square region.
**Question:** How do we know that at that time, the Jiva-pradeshas are situated in a circular shape?
**Solution:** This is known from this very Sutra.
From the first time of their origin, the Jiva-pradeshas are engaged in the three times, from the inferior Upadad-yoga to the inferior Ekanta-anuvritti-yoga. To explain this, the Sutra has been directed towards those with inferior yoga. In the third time, there is also inferior Avagahana. Therefore, to prohibit them, it has been said, "Present in the most inferior Avagahana of the body." By these qualifications, the inferior Avagahana of the subtle Nigoda Jiva is obtained.
The fish that has an Avagahana of one thousand yojanas has an excellent Avagahana. From this part of the Sutra, those fish that are situated from the innumerableth part of an angula, up to one pradesh less than one thousand yojanas in extent, are prohibited.
**Question:** Even if we accept the fish that are found similar to the Mahamatsya, in terms of their Utsesha and Vishkambha, there is no fault, so why are they not accepted?
**Solution:** This is not a fault, because until the Ayam, Vishkambha, and Utsesha of the Mahamatsya are known, it is not possible in any way to know the Ayam, Vishkambha, and Utsesha of the obtained fish. The Ayam of the Mahamatsya is not known from any other Sutra, because there is no other statement possible from this Sutra that is older and more authoritative.
The Ayam of the Mahamatsya is one thousand yojanas, the Vishkambha is five hundred yojanas, and the Utsesha is two hundred and fifty yojanas.
**Question:** How is this known without the Sutra?
1. Bh. Pu. 11 p. 34-35. 2. Gh. Pu. 11 Su. 8 p. 15.