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Aptavani-9
Aptavani-9
These tragas on the other hand are very serious, they will even bang their heads in front of you. One person started such a tragu in my presence, so I told him, 'Go to Mahadevji (Lord Shiva) and offer your head as a sacrifice. Why are you doing it here? This 'Dada is the Mahadevji of Mahadevji i.e. Lord of the Lords. Even if you do million such tragas here, they will not have any effect, such is this man.' Even before Gnan I used to say, 'Even if you do a million tragas in front me, it will not move me a bit. I am such a man.'
This art of tragu (manipulative tantrum) is very distressing 'We keep away from it. We are telling you so because 'we' have seen it.
Questioner: When two parties are resorting to manipulative tantrums, what should we do with reference to dispensing justice in the matter?
Dadashri: 'We' would not get involved in that. When it comes to a tragu, 'we' stay away.
Questioner: No, but if a question about making a judgment arises, then what should one do?
Dadashri: Arey! Even the one passing a judgment risks bypassing the subhuman life. If someone ever does a tragu in front of me, he will realize it was a mistake to do so, he will never do it again! He will realize that it is a liability to do a tragu.
Do you know what one lady who used to do tragu, told me? She told me that of all the people she had come across with whom she had had her way; I was the only one with whom she had not been able to have her own way. I told her that I have a thorough understanding of people like her
Questioner: One has to learn to deal with an upper hand with a person doing a tragu, with a technique of remaining unaffected. That is an art too!
Dadashri: That 'we' know! But it is still not worth getting involved. 'We get involved only when it is unavoidable. Otherwise, it is not worth initiating. 'We have seen tragas in other places too. A husband would drag his wife by her hair and bring her to me looking for justice. The wife and the husband, both would do tragas, both were manipulative. Therefore, 'we' have seen a lot of this. It is a wide world. What colors have 'we' not seen in it?
It is a tragu when everyone around has been pressured to succumb against their wishes. Just as surrendering to officers of the law, people have to surrender there too; that is a tragu.
Questioner: Meaning one puts others in a tight grip, correct?
Dadashri: Yes, they put them in such a hold.
Questioner: How should we act towards the one doing a tragu?
Dadashri: You should ask him: Why he is doing it? For what happiness is he doing it? How long can happiness that has been stolen from others, remain with him?
Questioner: What should one do if he still does not understand?
Dadashri: Then move away from there. Questioner: So give into him?
Dadashri: It is the same as giving in. It is a way of moving away from the situation, is it not? So move away from him. If a snake comes after you, who has to run away from the snake, you or the snake? You have to run away. What does the snake have to lose? If a bull chases you, are you going to say, 'Why are you chasing me?' Are you going to stand there and say, 'I am a lawyer from Baroda'? The bull will chase even a king!
Questioner: But you did not give in to people who did