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Aptavani-9
Aptavani-9
Questioner: Is insisting on the truth (satyagraha), a tragu?
Dadashri: That is one kind of a mild tragu for sure, but for that one can use words or terms that are more ornamental and suitable. People use the ornamental word 'satyagraha. But as far as a tragu (manipulative tantrum) is concerned, no one will call it satyagraha, will they?
In short, a tragu means to force others into doing what you want when they are not willing to do so. One resorts to tragu in order to scare and manipulate others into ultimately doing what he wants. He will invoke fear in others, he invokes fear by doing something one way or another; he resorts to emotional blackmail in this manipulative behavior to attain his calculated desired end.
Questioner: He will make one do what he wants, through using his charm, money, and punishment, even the fear of separation.
Dadashri: Yes, but he will not stop until he has his way: that is a tragu. I had witnessed such tragu several times but I paid my respect from afar, 'Hey! Tragu may I never see you and the doer of the tragu, let me not see your face ever.' Tragu is a learnt behavior. One will even find a guru to teach him. Tragu is not something one can learn on his own.
Questioner: So if a person insists on doing things his way, is that called tragu?
Dadashri: Insistence is not tragu but to scare others into doing what one wants, that is tragu. Don't some people scare others by saying, ...or else I will commit suicide' or 'T'll do this' or 'I'll do that?
Questioner: They threaten, they charm, and they incite pity or punishment; they do whatever it takes
Dadashri: Yes, they resort to every trick. And what do
the poor straight people do? They will say, 'Let him have his way, whatever may become of us, so be it.' The poor wife will even give up all her jewelry
Questioner: The one who does the tragu, does so with an understanding, does he not?
Dadashri: He understands everything. Tragu means to willfully and knowingly manipulate for one's own agenda.
Consequences of a tragu Questioner: What are the consequences for doing tragu?
Dadashri: One completely bypasses the entire Tiryancha Gati (the animal life form), i.e. in the next life he will go directly to hell. Is it an ordinary feat to by-pass the entire subhuman life?!!
Questioner: Is that considered raudradhyan (adverse internal meditation that hurts the self as well as others)?
Dadashri: In many ways, raudradhyan is better. So if anyone here has made the mistake of doing a tragu, come and ask for forgiveness from us. If you do this several times, you may erase one or so of this fault. It is considered a very grave wrongdoing. One bypasses the entire sub-human life form and goes straight to hell. What is more, it will not be the hell one is born into for doing raudradhyan either. Through tragu, people put others through living hell all the while getting what they want, at any cost. At all cost, meaning no matter what may happen, one will not rest until one gets what one wants. In opposing the one doing a tragu
(manipulative tantrum) Questioner: In the current time-cycle, such tragas are occurring everywhere.
Dadashri: No, not everywhere, those are smaller tragas.