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tragu and you told them that you have taken on many people like him without being affected. So how is that?
Dadashri: In some situations, 'we' have also given in, only because by doing so, that poor fellow will somehow get back on the right track. It is only with this intent that 'we' have done so. That is shameless open blackmail (naagai)
Lawyers too meet people who do tragu. Even lawyers will say, 'Let me run away from him', when they meet such people. What will the lawyer tell such a client? He will say, 'I will fight your case. You don't have to pay me. So there are all kinds of people.
Questioner: Many times even the lawyer does a tragu. He will tell you at the last minute to give him money or he will not appear in court
Dadashri: No, that is not a tragu; it is an issue of mutual selfish needs.
Questioner: Even after he has been paid for his service he does it to extort more money.
Dadashri: Yes, he will do that too, still it is not a tragu. It is shamelessness and open blackmail (naagai). You can deal with shameless people and even win but dealing with those who do tragu will make you by-pass the subhuman life form and go directly into hell. Lawyers say shameless things and so do their clients. The client may say, 'Sir I have paid your fees. I have not forgotten to pay. In fact you were standing with several people when I paid you.'Now what can the lawyer do when the client counter attacks him in this way? What can the lawyer do, after all he is human too!
Dealing with taipho One woman started a tragu when one of my relative was visiting me. He got very scared and told her, 'Hey, hey! You
should not do that. I told him, 'No, let her act up. Let us have our tea and you can watch her. It is something to watch. It is great!' The woman stopped immediately when I said this and asked me 'Are you doing my taipho (exposing me)?' I told her, 'You are doing a taipho, so we have to see the taipho, don't we? What else can we do?'
Questioner: If we use the word taipho to the one doing a taipho, then we will get double the beating
Dadashri: If that is the case then you should not use the word taipho. You should take it a little slow at first. I too took things very slowly at first, and then I became increasingly stern. I tightened the screw as she started to say more unwarranted things and so she mellowed down later.
People can be saved from a taipho but not from a tragu. Many people have been destroyed because of tragu. Even some men do tragu.
Tragu for salvation of the world
A person does tragu when he cannot have his way. Anything you do to make others do things your way is a tragu. When one resorts to whatever it takes, including scare tactics to achieve his will and desired result: is all tragu. Throwing things, creating a commotion, fighting and beating, is all tragu. The one who is meek and mild will get scared very easily and give in.
'We did tragu once. Arey! I threw things on the floor; I threw utensils, containers of sugar, tea, cooking fuel etc. I made a big mess. There was a big mess on the floor.
Questioner: Was it to have your own way?
Dadashri: Yes, that was the only tragu I did in my whole life. It is called a tragu. It was done for asserting control. And it was done for others; it was done for the sake of dharma, not for me. It was done because 'we' had to convey to Hiraba, 'You should not act this way.'