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Bhagavai 7:10:212-217
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discussed the matter, they approached Gautama. Having approached him, they addressed him thus "O Gautama! your religious preceptor, your religious instructor, the Ascetic Jñätaputra propounds five extended substances, viz., dharmästikäya...... up to pudgalästikäya. The description is as before... up to he propounds up to corporeal non-sentience substance. Gautama! how is this description logically consistent?
Kālodäissa samāhāṇapuvvam pavvajjā-padam
7.217 tae nam se bhagavam goyame te annautthie evam vayasi-no khalu vayam devāṇuppiya! atthibhavam natthi tti vadāmo, natthibhavam atthi tti vadāmo, amhe nam devānuppiya! savvam atthibhavam atthi ni vadāmo, savvam natthibhāvam natthi tti vadāmo, tam ceyasa khalu tubbhe devaṇuppiya! eyamattham sayameva paccuvekkhaha tti kattu te anṇautthie evam vadasi, vadinta jeneva gunasilae ceie. jeneva samane bhagavam mahavire teneva uvägacchai jāva bhatta-päṇam padidamseti, padidamsettä samaṇam bhagavaṇam mahāvīram vamdai namamsai, vamdittä namamsittä naccäsanne jāva pajjuvāsati.
The Topic of the Initiation of Kälodäyī after Resolving the Doubt
Then Lord Gautama addressed the heretics thus: We do not, O beloved of gods! speak of existence as non-existent, non-existence as existent. O beloved of gods! we speak of all existence as existent, all non-existence as non-existent. You think of this within yourself. Having addressed the heretics thus, Gautama reached the Gugasilaka shrine where the Ascetic Lord Mahavira was dwelling. Having reached there, he showed food and drink; having showed, he offered homage in obeisance to Lord Mahavira; having done so, he sitted himself neither too far nor near to him...... up to offerred his adoration.
Bhasya
1. Sūtras 212-217
It follows from this dialogue, wherein Lord Mahävira propounded the doctrine of five extended substances, that the conception of six substances was a later development. There is no place for the substance of time in the doctrine the five extended substances. We know from Thanam that time was considered as the mode of sentient and non-sentient entity. It is not an independent substance. The division of substances as corporeal and non-corporcal is also connected with the doctrine of five extended substances, which was quite new for the heretics, and so that was the topic of hot discussion among them. The dialogue with Madduka also confirms this. For satisfying the curiosity of heretics, Gautama said: We do not speak the existent as the non-existent, or the non-existent as the existent; speak existent as existent and non-existent as non-existent. You yourself ponder over this topic. Cf. Bhasya on Bha.1.133.
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