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[157, 1928] O Bhagavan! Are jivas (living beings) suitable for the use of the form (saakara) or the formless (anaakara)? {1628} Gautama! Jivas are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless. [Question] O Bhagavan! Why do you say that jivas are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless? [Answer] Gautama! Those jivas who are endowed with the use of Abhinibodhik-jnana (perfect knowledge), Shruta-jnana (scriptural knowledge), Avadhi-jnana (clairvoyance), Manah-paryaya-jnana (knowledge of the mind), Kevala-jnana (omniscience), and Mati-ajnana (knowledge of the mind), Shruta-ajnana (scriptural knowledge), and Vibhang-jnana (knowledge of the parts) are called saakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the form). And those jivas who are endowed with the use of Chakshu-darshan (visual perception), Achakshu-darshan (non-visual perception), Avadhi-darshan (clairvoyance), and Kevala-darshan (omniscience) are called anaakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the formless). Therefore, O Gautama! It is said that jivas are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless. 1926. [Question] O Bhagavan! Are the beings in hell (nairyika) suitable for the use of the form or the formless? [Answer] Gautama! The beings in hell are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless. [Question] O Bhagavan! Why do you say that the beings in hell are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless? [Answer] Gautama! Those beings in hell who are endowed with the use of Abhinibodhik-jnana (perfect knowledge), Shruta-jnana (scriptural knowledge), Avadhi-jnana (clairvoyance), and Mati-ajnana (knowledge of the mind), Shruta-ajnana (scriptural knowledge), and Vibhang-jnana (knowledge of the parts) are called saakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the form). And those beings in hell who are endowed with the use of Chakshu-darshan (visual perception), Achakshu-darshan (non-visual perception), and Avadhi-darshan (clairvoyance) are called anaakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the formless). Therefore, O Gautama! It is said that the beings in hell are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless. 1930. The same statement should be made about the beings in the womb (thanikumaras). [1630] 1631. [Question] O Gautama! What about the beings in the earth (pudhavikaaya)? [Answer] Gautama! Those beings in the earth who are endowed with the use of Mati-ajnana (knowledge of the mind), Shruta-ajnana (scriptural knowledge) are called saakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the form). And those beings in the earth who are endowed with the use of Achakshu-darshan (non-visual perception) are called anaakara-upayukta (suitable for the use of the formless). Therefore, O Gautama! It is said that the beings in the earth are suitable for the use of both the form and the formless. The same statement should be made about the beings in the water (vanaphai-kaaya).