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## Third Chapter: The Production of All Living Beings and Pudgalas [213 [77]
**O Bhagavan!** Have all living beings in this Ratnapraba earth been produced from the beginning of time, or have they been produced simultaneously?
**Gautam!** In this Ratnapraba earth, all living beings have been produced from the beginning of time, but not all living beings have been produced simultaneously in Ratnapraba. Similarly, the question and answer should be stated up to the seventh earth.
**O Bhagavan!** Has this Ratnapraba earth been abandoned by all living beings in the past, or has it been abandoned by all living beings simultaneously in the past?
**Gautam!** This Ratnapraba earth has been abandoned by all living beings in the past, but not all living beings have abandoned it simultaneously in the past. Similarly, the question and answer should be stated up to the seventh earth.
**O Bhagavan!** Have all Pudgalas entered this Ratnapraba earth from the beginning of time, or have all Pudgalas entered it simultaneously in the past?
**Gautam!** In this Ratnapraba earth, all Pudgalas have entered from the beginning of time, but not all Pudgalas have entered it simultaneously in the past. Similarly, the question and answer should be stated up to the seventh earth.
**O Bhagavan!** Has this Ratnapraba earth been abandoned by all Pudgalas in the past, or have all Pudgalas abandoned it simultaneously in the past?
**Gautam!** This Ratnapraba earth has been abandoned by all Pudgalas in the past, but not all Pudgalas have abandoned it simultaneously in the past. Similarly, the question and answer should be stated up to the seventh earth.
**Discussion:**
The present Sutra asks whether all living beings and all Pudgalas in the world have undergone movement and transformation in Ratnapraba and other earths. The meaning of the question is whether all living beings have been produced in Ratnapraba and other earths from the beginning of time, or have all living beings been produced simultaneously? Similarly, the question should be understood in relation to Pudgalas, regarding their transformation in Ratnapraba and other earths from the beginning of time or simultaneously.
**Bhagavan said:** Gautam! In this Ratnapraba earth, all living beings have been produced from the beginning of time, at different times. Here, by all living beings, only those living beings with a transactional mass should be understood, not those without a transactional mass. Since the world is eternal, all living beings have been produced in Ratnapraba and other earths at different times. But not all living beings have been produced simultaneously in Ratnapraba and other earths. If all living beings were to be produced simultaneously in Ratnapraba and other earths, then there would be a lack of Devas, Tiryanchas, Manushayas, etc. This never happens. The nature of the world is such. Due to the nature of the world, the four states of existence are eternal. Therefore, all living beings cannot be produced simultaneously in Ratnapraba and other earths.