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## Chapter Eight: The Innermost Moment of the Remaining Karmas
**8772.** The innermost moment of the remaining five karmas is as follows: The innermost moment of knowledge-obscuring karma is in the subtle-pervasive state (sūkṣma-sāmprāya) of the guṇasthāna; the innermost moment of perception-obscuring karma is in the non-cessation-pervasive state (anivṛtti-bādarasa-sāmprāya) of the guṇasthāna; and the innermost moment of the karma of lifespan is in the lifespan of animals and humans that is measured in years.
**8773.** Both types of states have been described. Now, the question arises: What is the nature of the experience of knowledge-obscuring karma and the other karmas?
**8774.** The experience is called **vipaka**, which means the ripening of the karma. This ripening can be specific or diverse. It is specific due to the difference in the intensity of the passions (kaṣāya) and the flow of the karmic matter (āsrava) as described earlier. Or, it can be diverse due to the difference in the nature of the substance (dravya), the field (kṣetra), the time (kāla), the state of being (bhava), and the cause (nimitta) that give rise to the various forms of ripening. This ripening is called **anubhava**. The experience of the auspicious karmas is excellent due to the predominance of auspicious results, and the experience of the inauspicious karmas is inferior. Similarly, the experience of the inauspicious karmas is excellent due to the predominance of inauspicious results, and the experience of the auspicious karmas is inferior. This experience, obtained through the influence of the karmas, manifests in two ways: through one's own mouth (svamukha) and through the mouth of another (paramukha). All the root karmas experience only through one's own mouth. The subsequent karmas, which are of the same type, experience through the mouth of another as well, except for the karmas of lifespan, perception-obscuring karma, and conduct-obscuring karma. For example, the karma of hellish lifespan does not ripen through the mouth of the lifespan of animals or humans. Similarly, perception-obscuring karma does not ripen through the mouth of conduct-obscuring karma, and vice versa.
**8775.** **Doubt:** The experience is the ripening of the various types of karmas accumulated in the past. But we do not understand...