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## Karika 86:
**Verse 86:**
The speaker, the listener, and the knower (who determines the truth or falsity of the speaker's intended meaning based on the heard statement) are all distinct and appear differently. In such a situation, the non-duality of knowledge is not hindered, the fallacy of the 'non-existence of the reason' (asiddha) does not arise, and the 'fallacy of the example' (hetu-shabdavat) does not occur.
**Explanation:**
If it is argued that the speaker, listener, and knower are not distinct from the mind (knowledge) due to the absence of an external meaning, and that the speaker, etc., are merely manifestations of the mind, and that the meaning of the statement also does not exist without the mind, and that the proof itself is in the form of knowledge, then the fallacies of non-existence of the reason, etc., would arise. However, this argument is not valid because:
* If we imagine the speaker and listener as mere perceptions of form, etc., and the proof as a mere product of knowledge, then the perception of form, etc., becomes completely invalid. This invalidity contradicts the acceptance of the non-duality of knowledge.
* The perception of form, etc., the intended meaning, and the speaker and listener as mere perceptions, would not lead to a product of knowledge that is dependent only on its own essence (sva-ansha). This is because knowledge dependent only on its own essence cannot be communicated, and there would be no distinction between the knowledge of the statement and the knowledge of the intended meaning.
* If knowledge dependent only on its own essence is also considered a perception, then the proof would not be established. This is because Buddhists consider infallible knowledge as proof.
**Note:**
The text refers to the Jain concept of "knowledge dependent only on its own essence" (sva-ansha-matra-avalambi). This refers to a type of knowledge that is not dependent on external objects or perceptions. The text also mentions the Buddhist concept of "infallible knowledge" (abhrant-jnana) as proof.