Book Title: Simandhar Swami
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation

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________________ 26 to Dada Bhagwan. Dada Bhagwan is at 360 degrees and I am at 356 degrees. Ilack four degrees and that is why I too chant His name also so that others will do the same. They too are lacking. Questioner: What is the relationship between 'Dada Bhagwan' whose name you make us chant and Simandhar Swami? Bhagwan'. This is to be done via the real viewpoint. Questioner: Obeisance to Dada Bhagwan is by the real viewpoint. Dadashri: Yes, that is correct. In actual fact here is where you must do your obeisance with the real viewpoint. Everywhere else you are doing so with the relative viewpoint. Dadashri: Ah ha! They are the same but the reason I am telling everyone about Simandhar Swami is because I still have a physical body and I too have to go there. Without the darshan of Simandhar Swami one cannot attain liberation. There is one more life to go. Liberation can only be achieved by the darshan of the one who is liberated. Actually, even I am liberated, but he is completely liberated. Unlike me, He does not go around meddling and telling people, "Come to me and I will give you Gnan". He does not meddle in any way. Can One Recite 'Simandhar Swami Na Aseem Jai Jai Kar Ho?' Questioner: When we say, 'I bow down to Simandhar Swami with the real view-point (nischaya),' is this enough or does one have to pay the obeisance from the relative perspective also? Dadashri: Only with the real viewpoint. His body may be big or small. We have nothing to do with the body, the relative viewpoint. Questioner: So the way I say it is: 'I bow down to Simandhar Swami with the real view-point', is that ok? Dadashri: Yes that is fine. Relative means through the body. In the Namaskaar Vidhi, (the prescribed orderly obeisance given by Dadashri)l, all the worship is done via the relative viewpoint. The only exception is this one obeisance to 'Dada There is no problem if you use the real viewpoint when doing darshan and obeisance of Simandhar Swami. It is a good thing. Questioner: Just like we sing, Dada Bhagwan Na Aseem Jai Jaikar Ho', can we sing 'Simandhar Swami Na Aseem Jai Jaikar ho'? Dadashri: You can say it joyfully! But you will not experience the same bliss as you feel from within when saying Dada Bhagwan Na Aseem Jai Jaikar Ho, because this Dada Bhagwan is direct and present in front of you. Lord Simandhar, although present, is not in front of you. You are not able to see Him. Nevertheless you can say it. You can say anything for Simandhar Swami because He is our Supreme Lord and will remain so. As long as we have not achieved liberation, He will remain our Lord. I am simply telling everyone that if they do this, they will be blessed forever. Questioner: Everything you have pointed out is exact. Dadashri: Yes, this is all pointing you in one direction. What can you do if no one has ever pointed you in the right direction? They may have talked about everything but they have not given specific instructions. Questioner: I asked this because one day I said it in this

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