Book Title: Science of Karma
Author(s): Dada Bhagwan
Publisher: Dada Bhagwan Foundation

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________________ The Science of Karma The Science of Karma found in the Siddhagati (domain of the liberated souls). you do, you will not bind any karma. Questioner: Then is karma the doer? One is subject to karma bondage only in the universe of life; and this has been the case for time immemorial. Furthermore it is all scientific circumstantial evidence. All this has come about as result of the elements being constantly in motion. This gives rise to illusion, which in turn gives rise to the ego in man. Illusion itself is the identification with that which is not real, the non-self. Amidst all this illusion the Selfis forgotten. So there has never been a time that the Soul has been free of karma. By the time when one meets a Gnani Purush, a considerable weight of karma has been shed. In fact it is when one's karma become lighter that one is able to meet a Gnani Purush. The meeting of the two is also scientific, it happens when all the scientific circumstantial evidences come together. Such a meeting cannot occur through one's own efforts. This meeting simply happens and one's work gets accomplished. Karma is the coming together of circumstances, and dissipation is its nature. Dadashri: The doer is the doer. Karma is not the doer. Do you say, 'I did it' or do you say, 'Karma did it'? Questioner: The internal belief that I am doing it' is always there. We always say, 'I did it! Dadashri: Yes, you say that 'I am doing it', and hence you become the doer. In reality neither the karma nor the Soul is the doer. Questioner: The Soul is on one side and karma on the other. How can the two be separated? Dadashri: They are separate. They seem to be connected because of this link of doer ship. Once this doer ship goes, the one who claims to be the doer also disappears, then the two will be separate. Karma Is Bound Through Internal Actions Questioner: Do karma apply to human beings? Dadashri: human beings do nothing but bind karma, constantly. The human ego is such that even though it does not eat, drink or conduct any actions in the worldly life, it still maintains 'I am the doer and that is why it binds karma. Karma is bound through the ego that says, 'I am doing it'. Is it not a wonder that happens? It can be proven that the ego does not eat, drink or do anything else. It can also be proven that in spite of not doing anything, it binds karmas. Only humans bind karmas. Questioner: Because of the body one has to eat and drink, but despite this it is possible that one is not the doer of karma? Relationship Of Karma And Soul Questioner: What is the relationship between the Soul and karma? Dadashri: Both will separate if the link of doer ship between the two is broken. The Soul will go to its own place and the karma will go to its own place. Questioner: I did not understand that very well. Dadashri: Without doer ship there is no karma. With doer ship there is karma. If you are not the doer, then no matter what

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