Jain Journal 1971 04

Author(s): Jain Bhawan Publication
Publisher: Jain Bhawan Publication

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Then Pradesi, the king, said thus to Kesi, the young monk : "This is, Sir, a clever simile and for that reason the soul gets inside ... But, is, Sir, some skilful young man able to discharge five arrows?” “Yes, he is.” “If that very person, Sir, while child, and dull in intelligence, were able to discharge, five arrows, I would have believed that the soul is different, the body is different and the soul is not the same as the body." ... Then Kesi, the young monk, said thus to king Pradesi: “Is a certain man, young and skiful, able to discharge five arrows with a wormeaten bow, a worm-eaten bow-string and a work-eaten arrow?” “No, Sir.” “Why?” “Sir, that person's implements are defective.” “In the same way, O Predesi, that very person when child and dull in intellect is with defective means, and thus he is not able to discharge five arrows. So, believe, you, O Pradesi, that the soul is different, the body is different and the soul is not the same as the body."
... Then that king Pradesi said to Kesi, the young monk : “Verily Sir, this is a clever simile and for that reason he may not be able to discharge the five arrows ... But Sir, one day I was there in the outer chamber. At that time my city police brought before me a thief. Then I weighed that man when alive, and having so weighed, without making any cuts (on his body), deprived him of his life. Then I weighed him dead. There was no change, difference, deficiency, lightness increase or decrease in weighing that very person, when alive or when dead. If sir, there were any change in weighing that person, when alive or dead, I would have believed that the soul is different, the body is different and the soul is not the same as the body.” Then Kesi, the young monk said thus to Pradesi, the king : “Have you ever seen a leather bag, before blowing and after being blown ?” “Yes, I have seen.” “Is there, Pradesi, any change in weighing that leather bag when full (with air) and when empty?” “No, no change.” “So also, O Pradesi, the increase and decrease of a soul is not dependent on weighing a person alive or dead. So believe you, Pradesi, that the soul is different, body is different and the soul is not the same as the body.”
Then Pradesi, the king said thus to Kesi, the young monk : "Verily Sir, this is a clever simile and for that reason there may not be increase and decrease of weight. But Sir, one day I was there in the outer chamber. At that time my city police brought before me a thief. Then I observed him on all sides. I did not see the soul there. Then I cut him into two. I did not see the soul there. In that way I cut him into three, four and a number of pieces, but I did not see the soul. So my conviction that the soul is the same as the body is well established.” Then Kesi, the young monk, said thus to Pradesi, the king: “You Pradesi,