________________ 18 Vol. II/No. 4. Eternal Wisdom would appear that there is no difference in them From this can you surmise that there is no air in one of them? If you did come to such a surmise, it would be patently false! In the same way just because a dead body weighs no less than the living one, it would be incorrect to say that there is no Atma." "O King, weight and heaviness is a property of ordinary matter ( qerei ) and in order to exhibit* this properly it must be touchable - because till one can touch it and hold it, one cannot weigh it. Thus substances like air and light, even though have weight, because they are not touchable they cannot be easily weighed in the ordinary way; so what can one say about weighing that which is quite distinct from ordinary matter, which can never be touched and which in no way can be held ? This is to say, that the attempt to prove the existence of the Atma by the process of weighment is a wrong approach and so one can never succeed in such an attempt." Reply to Argument No. IV: "Further, O King, you know that if you were to blow a horn in a completely closed large box, you would be able to hear the sound of it, even if there is no break or hole in the box. So can you say that the horn never blew and that no sound emitted from it? So also, from the departure of the Arma from a body which was locked up in a box, inspite of there being found no hole or break in the box, one cannot say that there was no Atma in the body which could have gone out." "0 King, the rays of light can traverse a box of glass even if there is no hole, or a door or a passage into it. Similarly, sound can traverse from one corner of the universe to the other, after passing through walls, trees and mountains. So what is so surprising if the Arma, which has no shape, size or feeling etc., can go through all and every kind of substance? It is because the Atma has this property that its motion cannot be checked, it is known as having Awyahatagati ( 37oyrearta )."