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Because the soul is itself and the material substance is itself the material cause of the karmic transformation of the material substance. The immediate cause of the soul's passions, etc. is the arising state of the karma of conduct and delusion, and the immediate cause of karma is the soul's passions, etc. Even though there is a mutual cause-and-effect relationship between the soul and karma, one substance does not transform into the other, i.e., the soul always remains a soul and the material substance always remains material substance, but because of their synthetic union, they are not separate in the worldly state. Question: Even though the relationship between the soul and karma is from beginningless time, does it ever cease or not? Answer: The relationship between the soul and karma is of three types: beginningless-infinite, beginningless-finite, and finite-finite. The karma-relationship of the non-liberated and the distant-liberated is beginningless-infinite in comparison to the ordinary, i.e., it is from beginningless time and lasts for an infinite time. The karma-relationship of the liberated soul, even though it is beginningless in comparison to the ordinary, ceases due to austerity, by which it attains liberation. Therefore, it is beginningless...