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Aptavani-9
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Aptavani-9
Questioner: How can one escape from such a man who is doing a tragu?
Dadashri: I know how to escape from a woman doing a tragu, but I do not know how to escape from a man doing one. I would make the woman doing a tragu jump all night long But I too become startled when a man does tragu.
Tragu means to create a major uproar in order to attain something against the wishes of others. 'I am going to commit suicide; I am going to do this. I am going to do that.' One will get his way through whatever means necessary. He will do any kind of tragu to scare you. There are such men.
Questioner: If a man does a tragu by saying, 'I am going to run away, I am going to kill myself, I am going to do this, should we believe that he will really carry out his threats? Would he do that?
Dadashri: Do not get scared but remain vigilant. He may even proceed to do so. Most of it is just tragu and so he will not do anything: nevertheless it is still better to be vigilant.
There are many who do tragu in their worldly interactions. When it comes to interactions in the home, you should not let yourself be affected by anyone doing tragu, otherwise you will suffer heavily. My whole life I have avoided tragas. I had one such 'system' of not being affected that always saved me from tragas. But on the most part, the world has been intimidated by and has yielded to tragas.
Questioner: How should one behave when a person is doing tragu?
Dadashri: How does it concern you in any way? Just continue 'seeing' it. You will get to see a new play. Otherwise, where can you get the opportunity to see such a play? If you ask an actor to do tragu, is he likely to do so? So, you should tell the person doing the tragu, go ahead and do as many tragas as you want!'
Adjustment to save yourself 'We have not seen many tragas but those that we have were unpleasant and distressing for all those who were around.
Questioner: So how do you feel when someone does tragu in front of you?
Dadashri: 'We' would immediately recognize that she has started a tragu.
Questioner: What do you do at that time?
Dadashri: 'We do not give into her. Even if all of you were to do a tragu, I would just sit here. You will get tired but not me. I have become an expert at it.
Questioner: What kind of adjustment do you take from within?
Dadashri: Unaffected! Without any effects whatsoever! Let her do a tragu, she will get tired and go to sleep!
Questioner: But would she not do more tragu, Dada? When she sees that you are unaffected, would she then not act up even more to affect you?
Dadashri: Yes and our internal state of being unaffected will become even stronger! That is how much energy there is within 'us'. In what situations would 'we' let go? In situations where the person is making a reasonable request or is having reasonable feeling and emotion, but if she does it as a scare tactic, then 'we' will not yield. Are you trying to scare me? Even God is not able to scare me. Are you not ashamed? Are you trying to scare the one who has pleased God in every way? Some people do tragu in front of me, but they are minor Iragas.
Questioner: Then do you not say anything to her? Do you just remain silent and sit unaffected?