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527 tell you, "It is because division already exists within them, within each individual. Those who are karan-siddha do not experience the division within, they experience moksha. So how can you call those who experience moksha, worldly (sansari)?"
Lord Mahavir had tremendous wisdom from a very young age. The Lord left this world at the age of 72. He was very wise. How wise? At the age of 30. His wisdom was such that it gave everyone around, tremendous happiness. He did not really leave home when He did; it was all due to circumstantial evidences. Just like when 'we' leave Santa Cruz to come to Dadar, does that mean that 'we' have left Santa Cruz? No. Those were the circumstantial evidences of that event. We are all guided by vyavasthit; scientific circumstantial evidences. We act according to the way vyavasthit makes us, from within. The Lord had nothing left to do. The one who has no doer-ship left, has nothing left to suffer. How can the one who has no doer-ship left, have anything to suffer or experience?
Whatever the Lord said, these maharajas have adhered to; they claim they are Jain ascetics. Whom does the Lord consider a karan-siddha (causal siddhas)? Sadhus, upadhyays, acharyas and tirthankaras (all part of the Panch Parmeshti, all that have attained the Self) are those to whom the Lord has given the status of karan-siddhas. They appear as worldly beings (sansaris) but there is a difference in the way they experience things. All four experience the bliss of the Siddha and you all experience worldly pain and pleasure. All the acharya maharajas claim, "We cannot be considered sansari (worldly beings)." But maharaj, on what basis are you not a worldly being? Give 'us' some proof so that 'we' can believe that. In testing, even if 'we' see 25% gold, 'we' will accept it to be 100%. Now, how much more lenient can 'we' get? 'We are ready to accept 25% as being 99%. However, after 'we' explain everything to them, the maharajs themselves accept that they cannot be considered karan-siddha. I ask them, how they
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Aptavani-2 can experience the state of the siddha when they still have their kashays. Ask them, "Maharaj you still have kashaya, do you not?" and they will say, "The kashays are still there." Then you can say, "Then you are not a karan-siddha." The maharaj himself will say, "No, I am a sansari. "If you ask them, will they not tell you so? They will. If they say that they are free of kashays, then you will immediately find out when you provoke them. They will get irritated even before you provoke them. People who are restless and troubled will become agitated and restless even while they are talking Hyperactivity and laziness : worldly and spiritual
Do not become panicky and hyper (raghavatio) under any circumstance. The Self is never so, it is the absolute supreme, so is there any need for restlessness? Drink tea, have snacks, play music, do everything. Instead everyone is caught up in overt restlessness. The Gnanis of the Kramic path will not let their disciples drink even a glass of water in peace. If someone is drinking water and takes too long, they will tell him, "Move from here. You are being spiritually lazy (pramaadi)." They do not let anyone drink water peacefully. They are restless and always in a hurry. The heck with your label of laziness (pramaad)! Take your label of 'spiritual laziness' with you and go home. We don't want such a moksha! How can we follow such a path of moksha where the master does not even allow us to drink water? Have you seen such hyperactivity on the spiritual path?
Questioner: I have indeed! I have spent two years with these types of sadhus!
Dadashri : There, the word pramaad' (spiritual apathy) causes intense hyperactivity. Instead of that why don't you do pramaad so that your agitation can be allayed? What a contradiction!
This Akram Vignan is a wonderful science that has come