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I am the Soul
419 So, heaven and hell, according to the karma, are also confirmed. Perhaps you may not be believing heaven or hell as a place, but you do know that you have yourself established such a massive machinery for some body who commits a major crime - police, jail, court, prosecutor, judge, hearing and judgement! Tell me, don't you have to follow this your very own system, as laid down? And is the convict taken to the jail for undergoing the sentence or is he kept at home and sentenced? It is not so! A person identified as a convict in the eyes of the society, has to serve time in the cell, and if he is sentenced to be hanged, he has to go through it, there is no choice. Brothers! It is the same with the Karmas done by the atma. To suffer those, there are places like naraka (hell), nigoda and tiryancha where one has to suffer a life form. The jiva has to go there. In the same way, one who has punya karma to his credit, has to either be born in heaven or as a human, where he experiences joy.
All this can happen, only if atma is eternal. The reason why Srimadji repeats this matter in his gathas, is that humans are not accepting the eternal nature of atma. By proving the eternal nature of atma to them, he is trying to raise the belief that the self is eternal atma. To again prove the eternal nature of atma, Srimadji says -
जे संयोगो देखिये, ते ते अनुभव दृश्य;
35957 the weiteit, 3T4 FARA .....88 All the sanyogs like de ha - the body, in the world are visible. That is to say, they are such that they can be seen and they are substances known to the atma which is experience itself. But atma is not something which can be created from any sanyog. Where there is atma there is growth. A small seed can sprout into a sapling and grow into a tree by absorbing substances from the soil. There is life in the seed therefore, it can create a body through an interaction - sanyog - with nearby substances. But
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