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[32] . [Jiva-Jiva-Abhigamsutra [15] Then, Bhante! Are the jivas knowledgeable or ignorant? Gotama! They are not knowledgeable, they are ignorant. By rule (definitely) they are two types of ignorant - mati-ignorant and shruti-ignorant. / [15] Bhagavan! Are the jivas knowledgeable or ignorant? Gotama! They are not knowledgeable, they are ignorant. / They are (definitely) two types of ignorant by rule - mati-ignorant and shruti-ignorant. / / [16] Then, Bhante! Are the jivas mano-yogi, vachan-yogi, kaya-yogi? Gotama! They are not mano-yogi, not vachan-yogi, they are kaya-yogi. [16] Bhagavan! Are the jivas mano-yogi, vachan-yogi, kaya-yogi? Gotama? They are not mano-yogi, not vachan-yogi, they are kaya-yogi. [17] Then, Bhante! Are the jivas sagaro-upyog-vala or anagoro-upyog-vala? Gotama! They are both sagaro-upyog-vala and anagoro-upyog-vala. [17] Bhagavan! Are the jivas sagaro-upyog-vala or anagoro-upyog-vala? Gotama! They are both sagaro-upyog-vala and anagoro-upyog-vala. / [18] Then, Bhante! What do the jivas consume as food? Gotama! The substance is infinite in its essence, the field is countless in its essence, the time is infinite in its essence, the feeling is colored, fragrant, tasteful, and tangible. / Are the feelings colored, fragrant, tasteful, and tangible? _ Gotama! According to the thaan-maggana, they consume one-colored, two-colored, three-colored, four-colored, and five-colored. / According to the vihaan-maggana, they consume from black to white. / If the color is black, do they consume one-quality black, two-quality black, or infinite-quality black? Gotama! They consume one-quality black, two-quality black, and infinite-quality black, and so on until white. / If the feeling is fragrant, do they consume one-fragrance, two-fragrances? Gotama! According to the thaan-maggana, they consume one-fragrance, two-fragrances. / According to the vihaan-maggana, they consume good-fragrance, bad-fragrance. / If the fragrance is good-fragrance, do they consume one-quality good-fragrance, two-quality good-fragrance, or infinite-quality good-fragrance? Gotama! They consume one-quality good-fragrance, two-quality good-fragrance, and infinite-quality good-fragrance. / Similarly, they consume bad-fragrance. Taste is like color. /