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Bhagavati Sūtra Bk. 1 Ch. 4
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Q. 155. Bhante ! Why do ye ordain like this that 'be they infernals,... till are not liberated without experiencing their effects' ?
A. 155. Gautama! Karma has been stated by me to be of two types. They are : karma integrated with soul-spaces called pradeśa karma, and karma density (i.e., the extensivenessintensiveness thereof) called anubhāga karma.. Of these, pradesa karma must, as a rule be experienced, but anubhāga karma some experience, while others do not97. It is well known, well recollected 98, well perceived by the arihantas which karma the living being experiences willingly, and which karma he experiences unwillingly99. He will get the outcome as per the nature of karnia acquired, as per time, place and status, as has been seen by the arihantas100. Hence, Gautama ! did I say, be they infernals and so on,...till are not liberated without experiencing their effects'.
[on the eternality of matter]
प्रश्न १५६-एस णं भंते ! पोग्गले अतीतं अणंतं सासयं समयं भुवीति वत्तव्वं सिया?
एस णं पोग्गले अतीतं अणंतं सासयं समयं
उत्तर १५६-हंता गोयमा! भुवीति वत्तव्वं सिया।
प्रश्न १५७-एस णं भंते! पोग्गले पडुप्पण्णं सासयं समयं भवतीति वत्तव्वं सिया?
उत्तर १५७-हंता गोयमा! तं चेव उच्चारेयव्वं ।
प्रश्न १५८-एस णं भंते! पोग्गले अणागयं अणंतं सासयं समयं भविस्सतीति वत्तव्वं सिया?
उत्तर १५८-हंता गोयमा! तं चेव उच्चारेयव्वं। एवं खंधेण वि तिण्णि आलावगा। एवं जीवेण वि तिण्णि आलावगा भाणियव्वा।
