________________ Vol. II/No. 4. Eternal Wisdom 13 clusion that there is no such thing as the Atma. Hence O Acharya, enjoy the good things of the senses and give up these unnecessary tribulations." Shri Keshi Ganadhara then said: "O King, from your talk, I can appreciate that you have tried to determine whether or not the Atma exists; but these efforts were not of the right type, and hence one can call them "Jame" efforts. One should inquire into a particular matter after taking into account the nature of that matter : For example, one cannot look at the wind through one's eyes - and yet if one were to say that there is no such thing as the wind, he would be patently unreasonable. Similarly the Atma is beyond the perception of the senses, and hence it cannot be seen -- but, to say therefore, that no such thing exists is again false. Further, by the sense of touch and the deduction therefrom, one can say that there is such a thing as the wind. Similarly, by one's mind and by other deductions, one can prove that there is such a thing as the Atma." Reply to Argument No. I: "O King, you told me, "neither my father nor my mother, both of whom loved me dearly have come to tell me that heaven is such and such, and that hell is such and such - and so I have decided that the talk of heaven and hell is false". But this conclusion of yours is not sound, because you cannot say, that since they have not come there is no such place. There can be many other reasons for their not coming." "This will become clear to you from the following example: Imagine that you have once setforth upon a journey, and that you meet and get together with a poor man on the way. Because of the time spent together, you build up some affection for him, and before leaving you tell him: "I am a king my friend, and I am the master of untold wealth; and if you come to my city, I will see that you become rich." After that, imagine that you have parted and returned to your city and have become