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Aptavani-8
Dadashri: Yes, therefore it confirms that wherever these exist, there is Atma. This tape-record may be speaking, but it does not possess any anger or greed, now does it?! It does not even have feelings (laagani). So wherever there is feeling; there is Atma.
...But Whose Qualities Are They?
Are feelings an attribute of the Atma or the body? Questioner: Of the Atma.
Dadashri: Is that so?! So are anger-pride-deceit-greed (krodh-maan-maya-lobh), all qualities of the Atma?
Questioner: Yes, the Atma must be the doer of all these.
Dadashri: But people are trying to get rid of anger-pridedeceit-greed. If they are qualities of the Atma, then those qualities would never leave! And are people not trying to get rid of anger-pride-deceit-greed?
Questioner: They all try to get rid of them.
Dadashri: But if they are qualities of the Atma, then no one can get rid of them, can they! If they did get rid of them, even the Atma would go away; therefore they are not the Atma's qualities.
Questioner: Are they the body's qualities?
Dadashri: They are neither qualities of the body nor of the Atma. If you say they are qualities of the Atma, then angerpride-deceit-greed would be considered weaknesses, and the Atma is the Parmatma (Absolute Soul). It does not have a single quality of weakness whatsoever!
And What Are the Attributes of Atma?
Many people say, 'the one that speaks within, is the Atma'. But the speaker cannot be living (jiva), nor can it even be