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Aptavani - 8
Part : One What is the Atma? What Must It Be
Like? What is the Atma? Questioner: What is the Atma (Soul)? Dadashri: The Atma means life energy (chetan).
Questioner: So does life energy (chetan) mean Atma and Atma means life energy (chetan)?
Dadashri: No. Atma is just a word, and even chetan is just a word, but we have to use these words for people to recognize them. Otherwise it is beyond words. Does one not have to point them out? Or else you would not even recognize them. How else could you recognize them? Is that not why people say, ‘go look for your Atma?! The Atma means the Self. To know, 'Who you are’ is called Atma (Self). And it is that Self which you need to recognize. When the wrong belief (of “I am Chandubhai') goes away and the right belief (ʻI am the Self') is established, this will be resolved. How else would this come about?
What Could the Atma Be? Dadashri: Is the Atma an element (vastu), or is it nonelement (avastu)?
Questioner: Avastu.