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in the world (vyavahar atma) will be created. The Self (nischay Atma) is the same as it has always been. Should you ever touch it; you will have attained your salvation! Right now, you are touched by only the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma).
This is just the ego (ahamkar) that has arisen. People say, ‘Pain (dukh) is being inflicted on my Atma.' 'My Atma is ruined.' Listen here! If your Atma is spoiled, then it will never be made better. Anything that has the potential energy (shakti) to spoil; can never be improved; besides, if it is spoiling right here, then even when it gets to the abode of the Liberated Souls (Siddha kshetra), it will spoil over there. But that is the real (nischay) Atma, and the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma) has become spoiled. The one which is spoiled is the vyavahar, and it is the vyavahar that needs to be made shuddha (pure). If you do not meet a Gnani, then you must make your worldly interaction (vyavahar) good (shubha), and if you do meet a Gnani, then you must make your interaction in the world (vyavahar) pure (shuddha). That is all you have to do. Did you understand?
So there are no impure phases (ashuddha paryaya) coming from the Atma. All the impure phases come from the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma). Now those phases (paryaya) are the most subtle (sookshma); it is the subtler (sookshmatar) of circumstances (avastha) that we are referring to as phases (paryaya). These are all big, big circumstances (avastha); they are impure circumstances (ashuddha avastha); gross circumstances (avastha). Is 'I am Chandubhai' just any ordinary circumstance? Worldly Atma Mistaken for The Absolute Atma
Questioner: Do the properties (gunas) of the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma) and the real (nischay) Atma differ?