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attains Atmagnan (Knowledge of the Self), which is the karan Keval Gnan (causal absolute Knowledge). Self-realization (Atmagnan) does not just happen to anyone! At this present time, no one has Atmagnan. If one did have Atmagnan, his speech would not be like it is, his conduct would not be like this, he would have no overt insistence (aagraha) whatsoever!
The Self-realized being (Atmagnani) has no overt insistence (aagraha); he is without insistence (niragrahi). Moreover, where there is Self-realization (Atmagnan), there is no egoism (ahamkar); there is no insistence (aagraha). Besides, where there is egoism (ahamkar), and where there is insistence (aagraha) there; they do not know anything. Granted, they do know scriptural knowledge (shastra gnan). If your egoism (ahamkar) does not go away, by whichever scripture it may be, then the knowledge in the scripture (shastra) has not been useful to you.
Questioner: So many who have had the vision of the Atma, say that it is shuddha-buddha.
Dadashri: Yes, they do say pure and enlightened (shuddha-buddha)! Now if the Atma is pure (shuddha) and enlightened (buddha), then why do you go to temples? And why do you read these scriptures? Is this not worth understanding? That is why over there, the talks are relative and dependent. From certain level of expectation, it is pure. Yes, as long as you are Chandubhai, and on top of that, you are ignorant of the Self (agnani), you cannot call the Atma pure! Yes. If your ignorance of the Self (agnan) goes away, the Atma is certainly pure (shuddha)! Inside, it has always been pure; it has never become impure (ashuddha)! But if you keep saying, 'It is pure (shuddha), it is enlightened (buddha)' for no reason, you will get nowhere. You should be able to experience that purity. And if you want to say it, you can say, 'In relation to the body, I am impure (ashuddha), but in relation to the Self (Atma), I am pure (shuddha)'. That is because the